Phoenix-area hailstorm, lack of roofers hammer homeowners

Nov 30, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Arizona Republic

It will take months for metro Phoenix's stripped-down roofing industry to repair the tens of thousands of area homes damaged during a freak hailstorm in October.

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God Bless American

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Watch out for scammers! had one come to my home. Senoran roofing, no logo on truck, Wants to scam you. Telling you your roof is bad when really it is not. Telling you he can get your de-ductable paid too. Show you pictures of other homes in your area hit by Hail. Not true pictures are not from your area. Watch out and do not let anyone rip you off.
Glad in Glendale

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Thank God the roofing companies had the intelligence to hire experienced roofing project managers. The projected claims in the area are actually 200,000 homes not tens of thousands. Get your facts right. I saw the hail map from my adjuster. Why would anyone have to create damage? You're either lying or a competitor of the company that did my roof just trying to stir trouble. I live here and was hit in 2002. Back then all you heard were roofing crews getting the work done. Well guess what? Don't hear that now do you? Arizona shot themselves in the foot by getting rid of the only people that would do the work. I have a friend that works at a local roofing company here and he has mentioned how funny it is that with all this unemployment and all this damage that there are no applicants to do the work. You people need to read now and then so you can think clearly. If these companies didn't hire out of towners to help..........who would help? You? My house has already been done thanks to them. So what if a local company hired help from out of town. It is still his company and he will uphold the warranties. Please do not make me even more embarrassed that I live here by having an opinion.
x-nutmegger

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The scammers are out there. I've had 20 knocks on the door and at least 20 flyers mailed or hung on door knobs.

It will be interesting to see the crew makeup in a racial manner. The roofing labor market was dominated by illegal Guats from about 2003 until 2008.

I hope to see a good mix of black , brown and white as use to be the norm a decade ago.

The article didn't mention the reasons for the roofers moving on...Az. immigration laws ...so they skipped that little tid-bit.
john

Phoenix, AZ

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choose a local company one with the R.O.C. one with bbb....make shure they carry worker comp and the proper insurance.....and you will be fine...one that has been in the yellow pages....

Since: Sep 10

Chillicothe

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Dec 1, 2010
 
john wrote:
choose a local company one with the R.O.C. one with bbb....make shure they carry worker comp and the proper insurance.....and you will be fine...one that has been in the yellow pages....
A licensed contractor is sufficient. Get their card, call the registrar of contractors and confirm. Advertising in the yellow pages means you are paying for that overhead in the job. That's no guarantee whatsoever. BBB, another worthless endorsement. If a contractor does not perform, the complaint goes to the registrar of contractors, not the BBB. You can waste your time giving it to the BBB if you like.
Honest Roofer

Wentzville, MO

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Dec 8, 2010
 
There are plenty of good roofing companys out there.Arizona make it very hard for cons and scam artists.Pretty simple who ever does your job pay half when material arrives and half when finished to your satisfaction.Never give money upfront wait til product hits the ground.This is a common practice in the construction industry.If a contractor screws up his butt belongs to Arizona.Any good contractor wants to do a good job for you because our best customers or those that have been referred by our last job.Good Luck and God Bless.
out of stater

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Jan 30, 2011
 
Many roofing companies are angry at the out of state roofing companies coming in for the storm damage. Truth be known there are too many claims for the local companies to keep up and finish within the allowed time frame of the insurance companies. We don't ask for half down we don't want a penny until your roof is done and you are happy with the work. Half down is for the companies that can't pay their supplier and will end up getting you a lien on your home. Some from out of town are scammers, but others are professional stormers following the path of destruction made by mother nature. We make a lot of money because we specialize in what we do. We help people with the insurance claim process because most don't understand it. Anyone worth their salt shouldn't be afraid of some competition. Believe me there is plenty of work out there for everyone.
out of stater

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Jan 30, 2011
 
By the way the ROC is a bunch of politics you can go to one of these contractor schools give them $400 and get the answers to all the testing questions a few lies for experience forms and boom your a roofer, plumber, or even a general contractor. I have 20 yrs experience in all facets of construction, told the truth on all my forms and was denied a general license because I had not built 25 houses from the ground up as a superintendant. I know of no less than 10 general contractors who had people lie for them on their exp forms and can't tell you what the tie down requirements are for AZ homes. Go ahead and bet your life on that ROC# but when it comes to your home you might want to go a step further and research the volme and quality of work that a business produces.
Question Authority

Dumfries, VA

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Jan 30, 2011
 
Ever heard of fixing your OWN roof? Or asking a family member or neighbor to help?
hag4u com

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Feb 19, 2011
 
The roofing industy has many challenges, including a labor force which traditionally has been Hispanic. Considering Arizona's overzealous activities toward anyone who even looks Hispanic, it makes quality LEGAL Hispanics who are roofing artisans not want to have anything to do with Az.
Yes there are scammers of ALL kinds when a storm hits,some of which include both "roofing companies," and Insurance Companies who commit Illegal Acts of Bad Faith including the use of non-licenced adjusters, representing themselves as "licenced adjusters"....oh, and by the way, many of the scammers of both groups just mentioned include "Legal" Whites, Blacks & those of Asian descent.
John Doe

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I'd like to chime in and say the following
I'm a local, born and raised Arizona native. After the hail storm, a family friend called me and said the roofing company he works for is coming to AZ. I met the owner of the company. The owner was a very nice person, and very honest. He does work all over the nation, and honors his 5 year warranty (doesn't leave and not come back like everyone thinks ). I have been selling for said company. I've been able to pay off my debt with the money I made. My customers got new roofs put on, all up to code. Complete tear offs. Single layer only. No one got scammed, and a AZ native (me) got an opportunity to work.

A company that is licensed, boned, and insured in Arizona is a local company. They pay taxes in Arizona too. How is that out of state? Just because it's a new company to Arizona, doesn't make them "out of state". It makes them "A new company in Arizona" and they are also supporting our economy.

To the local companies that are upset that you have professionals coming into a market with a high demand, too bad. It's called competition. It's not just in roofing, it's in every type of business. Competition is good. It causes businesses to raise their standards of work. If there were no competition, you would stagnate and not improve. Some claim that the "out of state" companies are stealing work. There has been so much work here that if there were no new roofing companies allowed into Arizona it would take years to fix all these roofs. There is so much work that if a "local" company wasn't fully booked on doing roofs then they're doing something very wrong and shouldn't be in business.

What kind of car do you drive? I'm sure a lot of you own cars that are made in Japan, Germany, or somewhere else in the WORLD! Shame on you for not supporting the United States economy! Are you wearing clothes? Most likely they're made by some kid getting paid a very unfair wage in another country. SHAME ON YOU!! Drink starbucks? Do you know where those coffee beans are harvested from? Oh no!

Even if the "out of state companies" weren't local, and paid taxes in their "home" states instead of Arizona(which isn't true), at least they'd still be supporting the UNITED STATES and not some other country like all of us do every single day. There is nothing wrong with national roofing companies. If you shop at any major store, you are supporting a national company instead of the local mom and pop store and therefore are a hypocrite.
John Doe

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x-nutmegger wrote:
The scammers are out there. I've had 20 knocks on the door and at least 20 flyers mailed or hung on door knobs.
It will be interesting to see the crew makeup in a racial manner. The roofing labor market was dominated by illegal Guats from about 2003 until 2008.
I hope to see a good mix of black , brown and white as use to be the norm a decade ago.
The article didn't mention the reasons for the roofers moving on...Az. immigration laws ...so they skipped that little tid-bit.
Someone who knocks on your door is a scammer? Even if they work for a licensed, bonded, and insured national roofing company that does good work? Because they have the drive and ambition to get out there and get work they're a

Having flyers hung or mailed to you is a scam too? Oh no! I just got scammed by McDonald's, Sonic, Burger King, Direct TV all in one day! Damn!!
Plumlogan

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Jul 28, 2012
 
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Ever heard of fixing your OWN roof? Or asking a family member or neighbor to help?
If you patch or repair your OWN roof you're less likely to have your insurance pay to replace your roof - something a good crew could do in a day, while a couple of regular guys, between the tare-off/replacement/haul-away , would probably take about a week.

Since: Jul 12

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Jul 29, 2012
 
God Bless American wrote:
Watch out for scammers! had one come to my home. Senoran roofing, no logo on truck, Wants to scam you. Telling you your roof is bad when really it is not. Telling you he can get your de-ductable paid too. Show you pictures of other homes in your area hit by Hail. Not true pictures are not from your area. Watch out and do not let anyone rip you off.
What do you expect from a right wing scab state? Who wants to work in the god-forsaken desert for dog-shit wages?

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