Jodi Arias claims self-defense as murder trial begins

Jan 2, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: KTVK Phoenix

A defense attorney says an Arizona woman charged with stabbing and shooting her boyfriend to death in 2008 acted in self-defense because he was violent and abusive.

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When this woman claimed self defense, and possibly claimed the man was abusing her, she was playing the Mary Winkler card. I bet she gets off easy or walks free. The man is dead so he cannot speak for himself. Convenient
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Goodmorning

I just handed out those Interesting Stars .. Appreciate Elise and Another Poster for raising the bar.
LA Guy

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Jan 28, 2013
 
Truth wrote:
When this woman claimed self defense, and possibly claimed the man was abusing her, she was playing the Mary Winkler card. I bet she gets off easy or walks free. The man is dead so he cannot speak for himself. Convenient
Was he abusive?

Are you aware of his texts messages?

Do you know the nickname he went by?

Are you aware of the bondage gear?

Was she in a fragile state?

FYI - In our system of juris prudence, guilt must be establishd beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Jan 28, 2013
 
Elise wrote:
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It is a hobby but not as much as it used to be. As I grow, I realize the importance of other things in life. I have moved on to things that make me feel more content with my inner self like animal rescue, volunteering, helping those in need. I find it makes me a much happier person to do things for others than doing for myself :)
Goodmorning Elise

In all sincerity, Elise, I feel the same way. Moving away from ego and materialism, being of service to others in our own way :)

Also interested in Animal Rescue, but not yet active in it.
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LA Guy wrote:
I had not planned to post again today, until I noted he was going by the nickname Top Dog and the Geraldo piece aired.
Then you should have saved yourself some time because Travis' nickname was "T-Dog" not "Top-Dog." It was given to him by a friend, not thevway in which he referred to himself. Maybe you should spend a little less time fantasizing about Jodi & more time focusing on the facts of the case...
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Jan 28, 2013
 
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Then you should have saved yourself some time because Travis' nickname was "T-Dog" not "Top-Dog." It was given to him by a friend, not thevway in which he referred to himself. Maybe you should spend a little less time fantasizing about Jodi & more time focusing on the facts of the case...
Do you have any other insight into Travis, as to his texts to Jody, wherein he refers to her as a slut, hoe, three hole wonder, claiming human dildo status...these facts came out by the prosecutor in the trial...also the "property t-shirt"

He was was a young good looking stud, playing the Dominant role with sexy, but fragile Jody

I have nothing against Travis, he got caught up in these erotic but dangerous sex games and this age old tragedy played out on the stage of life

Are you sure ablout T-Dog, versus Top Dog, all of the media reporting Top Dog
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Jan 28, 2013
 
Hi Again Elise

Just got back to my place and all hell is breaking lose according to even legal pundits sympathetic to Jody. A mystery witness, by the name of Gus was on the stand today (san jury in attendance). He looks like a shady character, older swarthy guy, from LA. The defense will call him in their case. Gus claims he can hurt or help Jody, but the defense is calling him, so make the logical conclusion.

The telling part today, was Dep DA Martinez loosing his cool with Gus, becoming almost shrill, visually angry. Legal pundits predicting that Martinez' temperment will not bode well for him in the cross examinatiion of defense witnesses. I mentioned earlier, that Martinez was flatfooted, now I feel that he lacks that special something in connecing with this jury.

OK, Elise, fasten your seat belt and stay tuned in. I will be real busy this week, only catching recaps in the late evening. I value your take in this case. Same with the "Other Poster" from back east.
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Jan 28, 2013
 
Typo

legal pundits Not sympathetic to Jody
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Hell, I never groomed anyone, just met women in the normal course of life. Travis was a predator.
You are clearly projecting quite a bit of behavior and characteristics on TA that r not supported in any evidence anywhere. U r also ridiculously full of yourself and full of crap. Your pontificating and little "life details" are laughable. BTW, you refer to Jodi Arias as educated and demure. She is neither - she never ever graduated High School. Good sense you've got there guy :)
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Elise wrote:
First, she's pretty but I think words like "gorgeous" and "beauty" are really being thrown around casually. She isn't THAT good-looking! Anyway, this is absolutely first degree murder! She stalked him and went there with the intent to kill! She stole a gun, took the phone battery out of her phone, rented a car, and lied about where she was going. Afterward, she spent a prearranged week in Utah with another man so she would be off the radar. She didn't snap. After the murder, she even baited people to talk about the gory details so she cold bask in her success before she knew she would be caught. She let this build up over time. It was a vengeful killing. He had hurt her ego because he didn't think she was good enough and didn't want her for anything other than ass. She also couldn't deal with the jealousy of knowing there were other girls. The trip that was coming up the following week to Cancun with another woman made her see red and she wanted him dead, period! That's a little overboard on the emotions if you ask me! I'm a bit surprised at the comments that sound like "Oh well, he was using her, so that's what he gets!" Really people?? They broke up but she was the one still offering up sex. So as a man, he was still taking it!! If you're surprised, maybe you don't know any men!?! It's a game girls sometimes play when they are dumped by a guy they really liked. They know men are weak when it comes to having sex and they just want something to hold onto them. They just can't completely let go. Attractive, smart, manipulative women can get any man, any time, any where! I'm sure women who do not fit these profiles, would disagree, but it's the truth. But, together with mental and emotional instability, and it becomes a deadly combination. I think he had made it very clear that she was nothing more than a booty call. Having sex with him before she killed him was also just part of her power trip. She is the definition of "psycho" and should make all men everywhere very scared!!
I agree But I cant see where she is so beautiful. Her eyes are beady and set so close together they look crossed. What happened to the blonde hair and her nose is mishapened.I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I aint beholding on this one.

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<quoted text>I agree But I cant see where she is so beautiful. Her eyes are beady and set so close together they look crossed. What happened to the blonde hair and her nose is mishapened.I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I aint beholding on this one.
Agree, she is no beauty.
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<quoted text>I agree But I cant see where she is so beautiful. Her eyes are beady and set so close together they look crossed. What happened to the blonde hair and her nose is mishapened.I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I aint beholding on this one.
Doe Eyed (look it up)

J LO's nose a little different, makes a girl hotter

Ignorance abounds
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You are clearly projecting quite a bit of behavior and characteristics on TA that r not supported in any evidence anywhere. U r also ridiculously full of yourself and full of crap. Your pontificating and little "life details" are laughable. BTW, you refer to Jodi Arias as educated and demure. She is neither - she never ever graduated High School. Good sense you've got there guy :)
Shirley, NY Long Island...LOL....A place close to NYC, but might as well be one thousand miles away.

Not supported in evidence anywhere, as you awkwardly put it?

Apparently you have failed to review interviews and court testimony as to Travis' behavoir.

I could have handled demure Jody and nothing bad would have happen.
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Shirley, NY Long Island...LOL....A place close to NYC, but might as well be one thousand miles away.
Not supported in evidence anywhere, as you awkwardly put it?
Apparently you have failed to review interviews and court testimony as to Travis' behavoir.
I could have handled demure Jody and nothing bad would have happen.
well LA Guy - where someone lives sure seems to mean a lot to you - I'm not that superficial - and BTW, I don't live in "Shirley, NY". I am quite up to date on the trial thank you, but again - you jump to unsupported conclusions. I couldn't care any less what you have to say about the case - I just think your hilarious and your commentary is absurd.
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It is understandable that Travis' friends are deeply hurting for their loss, but a lot of the things they have said about Jodi, especially on HLN, are not exactly true, take for instance, the story about Jodi gaining access to Travis' house through the "doggy door", has anyone seen the size of the "doggy door" they were speaking about? It is big enough for a dog the size of the pug, "Napoleon" to get in and out, but it is impossible for someone who is Jodi's size to gain access to the house.

Did Alexander deserve to be die in such a horrific way because he treated Jodi in a very demeaning and degrading manner? Absolutely not!
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Typo

to be killed....
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The prosecution just called Legal Shield (formerly Pre-Paid Legal Services), a pyramid.

The exact same thing that Searcy does is what Alexander did.
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Doe Eyed (look it up)
J LO's nose a little different, makes a girl hotter
Ignorance abounds
Right back at you

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Mimi testified early on that when she first went to the house she saw the dog jumping erratically at the window like he wanted her to let him out. He may have gone without food and water. Maybe he had a water bowl that lasted him for a few days and that's how he survived.
I thought the housemates would have fed him.
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I agree with LA Guy. This is a crime of passion and though Travis was a great guy in the eyes of most because of his accomplishments, he was not a SAINT and he really was using this woman. He used her, had sex with her, showed her off and then, she is not good enough for him and not marriage material. She SNAPPED and there is NO EXCUSE for what she did. He deserved something for his treatment of her but it was not to be killed. She is obvioiusly not right in the head. As fas as premeditation, I don't think so. This was too sloppy. This was a crime of passion by a woman who snapped. Elise is also right, she should have "learned and moved on" after letting herself be used by Travis, BUT, that is what a STABLE person could do and she was obviously not stable in her mind.
I agree with you, however I feel as though it was premeditated. You said it was too sloppy, but if it was her first time killing someone it would be sloppy. My guess is that her adrenaline was so high she got so into it that she forgot about the mess she was creating. She may have clued in to how messy it was, which may lead to why there was water all over the bedroom/bathroom. She probably got scared and tried to cover it up threw water all over the place but got panicky and felt as though she needed to leave quickly before his roommate arrived home.

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