Accused priest is removed from ministry

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The Rev. Theodore Podson in a recent photograph. He relocated to the South Pacific in 2003 and worked as a hospital chaplain on the Philippine island of Cebu.

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So you were actually there in 1914!? Amazing you are still alive! You must be such a healthy old geezer!
Ozzy,

You do not have to be born in year 1914 in order to learn of the past!!! The past is recorded in the annals of history!!! Thus, we would be able to learn as to which religions were killing during that period when the First World War broke out concurrent with the registration of the Iglesia ni Cristo on July 27, 1914:

" ... In the north the Protestants were in control---Lutheran churches in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, the northern and central states of Germany; Calvinists or Reformed churches in Scotland, the Netherlands, Hesse, the Palatinate, and a few of the western German states. In the south the Catholics were in control---Spain, Italy, Austria, Bavaria, and elsewhere in southern Germany."

Reference:[Owen Chadwick, The Reformation, p.366]

"The first great campaign on the southeastern battle grounds of the Great War began on July 27, 1914, when the Austrian troops undertook their first invasion of Serbia ... " (The Story of the Great War, p.291).

The two major but spurious religions of Roman Catholicism and Protestantism were killing and slit-throating each other in 1914!!! Their faithfuls kill their own!!! While Brother Felix Y. Manalo was bringing God's righteousness for the salvation of mankind!!!

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Merry Christmas to all INC!!!
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Happy New Year to all of you!!! Another 15 grandiose and beautiful chapels were dedicated to God by the Iglesia ni Cristo for the month of November 2012 alone!!!

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Come on, stooge, admit that you were dropped as a child.
I have hardly defended him. On the contrary, I have exposed him for being a malcontent with a history of making up stories.
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Please remind me when I defended that faith for those things.
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You have proven that your intelligence is beneath me. I don't know whether to pity you or maintain exposing your cult's afraid and evil. I'll stick to the latter.
Base Gardiner,

Do not be talking of Adrian Hastings!!! But of Adrian Hastings' former religion, the Roman Cathoilic Church, whom he described as the church of sinners, fools, and etc.:

"Church of sinners and of fools."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 126.)

"the power of the Church (Catholic) has been used in history to do the devil's work."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 127.)

Look at that!!! He capitalized the word "Church" when describing the dysfunctionality of the Roman Catholic Church!!!

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The video and transcripts of Keating's beat down of Ventialcion are available. Do take notice of how when questioned about Jesus and God being one;
Jesus is shown to be God most dramatically when Thomas, finally convinced that Jesus has risen, falls down and exclaims, "My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28).
When confronted with this passage in a debate with Catholic Answers founder Karl Keating, Iglesia apologist Jose Ventilacion replied with a straight face, "Thomas was wrong."
How can Thomas be wrong? That selective reading of the Bible is an INC trait. They beg that the Bible is infallible but just not that passage.
Base Gardiner,

You were not there but I was!!! Even the mocking birds of California were laughing at will against Catholic debater Karl Keating!!! He removed the word "almost" in a Catholic historian's statement!!! He was also accusing that he was debating with three members of the Iglesia ni Cristo!!! He was lying for the other two were just assisting Brother Joe Vintilacion in preparing the references so that our debater could continue talking and disproving his opponent without loss of much-valued time!!!

Yes, Thomas was wrong and so were the rest of the Apostles who also mistook Christ as spirit or God in nature!!! They were however corrected by our Lord Jesus Christ in the following manner:

"Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them,“Peace to you.” But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen a spirit. And He said to them,“Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.”(Luke 24:36-39, NKJV)

Take note that Thomas was not around at the first appearance of Jesus Christ to the rest of the apostles for he was absent, thus, his wrong belief of mistaking Christ as spirit or God!!!

This is the verse also which would authenticate Mr. Lamsa's translation of Acts 20:28 when he used the phrase "church of Christ"!!! For it was Christ who was crucified because He has flesh and bones!!!

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ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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I could have sworn you just wrote a bunch of nonsense from a Pasugo excerpt regarding how the Bible is just words that must be translated by the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Now, you want to pretend that the words are actually important?
Okay, St. Thomas speaks directly to the risen Jesus, calling him, "My Lord and my God." Every credible Bible translation states this fact. It's convenient that you believe Matthew's words to not be in need of explanation but Thomas' to require such.
ROTFLMAO!
Base Gardiner,

There is no question as to the statement of Thomas when he mistook the natore of Christ as spirit or God!!! But if his statement is compared to the other statement of Christ and the apostles, it would show a conflict:

"God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." (John 4:24, NKJV)

" ... A spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have." (Luke 24:39, NKJV)

This teaching has not changed in the Chritian era. The members of the first-century Church of Christ preserved the scriptural teaching that the Father alone is the only true God. Apostle Paul testifies:

"Yet there is for us only one God, the Ftaher,, who is the Creator of all things and for whom we live." (l Cor. 8:6, Today's English Version)

Hence, the apostolic teaching is that the Father is the only true God. On the other hand, the belief in God having three divine persons--God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit--is unbiblical.

Jesus Christ: God's dear Son

As stated earlier, Christ is the Son of God and not "God the Son." Therefore, He is not God. Whom then did Christ recognize and introduce as His God? He Himself said:

" ... Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them,'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God'." (John 20:17, NIV

The Lord Jesus Christ deified the Father as His God. His teaching that the Father is the one and only true God is also the truth that the apostles preached:

"Praise be to God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Those who uphold this biblical teaching concerning the Father will not be lead away from the truth, they will not fall into the error that there are other gods besides the Father.

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You like to quote private, Roman Catholic authors. They do not speak for the Vatican any more than you speak for the stooges at the INC cult headquarters.
Base Gardiner,

Yes, they do speak for the Vatican!!! All their beliefs come from the papacy because the pope is the chief ruler of the Catholic Church:

"The Church is called Roman Catholic because its chief ruler is the lawful bishop of Rome.

"The word "Catholic" means universal,''extending all over the world.'"

Reference: Catholic Catechism, Part ll, page 146.

The Catholic Church is called Catholic, because she is universal or extends all over the world. The Catholic Church is called Roman, because her chief ruler is the lawful bishop of Rome. The name Roman Catholic Church was not taken from the Bible. Instead, it was only made by Catholic authorities.

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Good! Every one of them should be thrown out of there. It's so disgusting.
Mel190,

That is for sure!!! Membership in the spurious religions of Roman Catholicism and Protestantism will have dire consequences on Judgment Day!!! Even today, the worshippers of scarecrows is already being punished as shown by the death of hundreds in typhoons and earthquakes!!!

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Base Gardiner,
Do not be talking of Adrian Hastings!!! But of Adrian Hastings' former religion, the Roman Cathoilic Church, whom he described as the church of sinners, fools, and etc.:
"Church of sinners and of fools."
Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 126.)
"the power of the Church (Catholic) has been used in history to do the devil's work."
Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 127.)
Look at that!!! He capitalized the word "Church" when describing the dysfunctionality of the Roman Catholic Church!!!
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Okay. Should I talk of Marcos Mataro instead? He left the INC because of the evil he saw within. He is equally credible to Hastings, right?

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Base Gardiner,
You were not there but I was!!! Even the mocking birds of California were laughing at will against Catholic debater Karl Keating!!! He removed the word "almost" in a Catholic historian's statement!!! He was also accusing that he was debating with three members of the Iglesia ni Cristo!!! He was lying for the other two were just assisting Brother Joe Vintilacion in preparing the references so that our debater could continue talking and disproving his opponent without loss of much-valued time!!!
Stooge, Jose Ventilacion challenged him to a debate. Why did he need others to prepare references? I watched the entire debate. Yes, the entire debate. One need not have been there to know that the INC looked silly. Logic dictates that they relied on the private opinions of theologians and not Vatican approved doctrine. Anyone with the ability to reason could see that Ventilacion looked lost when confronted with the St. Thomas quote, "My Lord and My God.". No amount of support could have saved him! LOL!
Yes, Thomas was wrong and so were the rest of the Apostles who also mistook Christ as spirit or God in nature!!!
How do you know since you weren't there?(That is the same argument you made above, right?)

How can those closest to Jesus have been wrong about this but correct in other things? You are executing that INC duplicity again, stooge.
They were however corrected by our Lord Jesus Christ in the following manner:
"Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them,“Peace to you.” But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen a spirit. And He said to them,“Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.”(Luke 24:36-39, NKJV)
That proves NOTHING! ROTFLMAO! St. Thomas said what he said.
Take note that Thomas was not around at the first appearance of Jesus Christ to the rest of the apostles for he was absent, thus, his wrong belief of mistaking Christ as spirit or God!!!
No, stooge, St. Thomas did not mistaken his friend. He was in awe and let him know that Jesus was his Lord and his God.

You cannot even lie well.
This is the verse also which would authenticate Mr. Lamsa's translation of Acts 20:28 when he used the phrase "church of Christ"!!! For it was Christ who was crucified because He has flesh and bones!!!
Improve your low I.Q.!!!
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If St. Thomas was mistaken, so was Lamsa.

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Base Gardiner,
Yes, they do speak for the Vatican!!! All their beliefs come from the papacy because the pope is the chief ruler of the Catholic Church:
"The Church is called Roman Catholic because its chief ruler is the lawful bishop of Rome.
"The word "Catholic" means universal,''extending all over the world.'"
Reference: Catholic Catechism, Part ll, page 146.
The Catholic Church is called Catholic, because she is universal or extends all over the world. The Catholic Church is called Roman, because her chief ruler is the lawful bishop of Rome. The name Roman Catholic Church was not taken from the Bible. Instead, it was only made by Catholic authorities.
Improve your low I.Q.!!!
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You are in need of remedial debate and argument skills. You make so many false analogies it isn't even funny.

Private theologians do not speak for the Vatican. Ventilacion attempted to try that tactic and was beaten down like a rented mule. The Vatican has a publishing house. Everything that is official doctrine or dogma heralds from it. Everything.

Your cult forbids free thought regarding their formation, deviance from scripture, leadership misdoings, criminal activity involvement and financial transparency. Hell, you cannot even provide an accurate number of INC members! LOL!

The Pasugo feeds your feeble mind. Keep eating of their moldy table. It will prepare you well for eternity in your rotting grave.

WWJD?

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Base Gardiner,
There is no question as to the statement of Thomas when he mistook the natore of Christ as spirit or God!!! But if his statement is compared to the other statement of Christ and the apostles, it would show a conflict:
"God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." (John 4:24, NKJV)
" ... A spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have." (Luke 24:39, NKJV)
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You just contradicted yourself. You believe it is okay to worship God, a spirit, because he has no flesh and bones. Then you say Thomas was mistaken for saying that Jesus was his God after he rose from the dead and was no longer flesh and bones.

Make up your mind. You cannot pick and choose which parts of the Bible are correct, stooge.

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Base Gardiner,
Yes, they do speak for the Vatican!!! All their beliefs come from the papacy because the pope is the chief ruler of the Catholic Church:
"The Church is called Roman Catholic because its chief ruler is the lawful bishop of Rome.
"The word "Catholic" means universal,''extending all over the world.'"
Reference: Catholic Catechism, Part ll, page 146.
The Catholic Church is called Catholic, because she is universal or extends all over the world. The Catholic Church is called Roman, because her chief ruler is the lawful bishop of Rome. The name Roman Catholic Church was not taken from the Bible. Instead, it was only made by Catholic authorities.
Improve your low I.Q.!!!
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All those words and not one coherent thought. Hmmmmm?

Are you suggesting that the Roman Catholic Church is universal? No kidding.

Are you suggesting that because it is universal that all Riman Catholics can announce official doctrine?

Are you suggesting that while your cult evolved from its inception, the Roman Catholic Chirch cannot?

Do tell...
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Okay. Should I talk of Marcos Mataro instead? He left the INC because of the evil he saw within. He is equally credible to Hastings, right?
Base Gardiner,

Mataro was expelled from the Iglesia ni Cristo but was intending to return upon knowing the crimes of K.Y.J.Eli Fernando Soriano who is until this time hiding in Brazil!!! He is the mastermind of the killing!!!

Hastings is not alone in describing negatively the Roman Catholic Church!!! That is not the case in the Iglesia ni Cristo!!! But in your client which is the Catholic Church!!! This is how an author Peter De Rosa described a Roman Catholic pope, Innocent III:

"In pursuit of his aims, he shed more blood than any other pontiff. He profoundly misunderstood the Gospel, the Church, the papacy, even the distinction between good and evil. His marvelous perversion of all these is evidenced in a single breathtaking statement:'"Every cleric must obey the Pope, even if he commands what is evil; for no one may judge the Pope'."

Reference: De Rosa, Peter. Vicars of Christ: The Dark Side of the Papacy, Page 73. New York: Crown Publishers, Inc., 1988.

Do you see how I trashed you into pieces and feces??? The book says,'"Every cleric must obey the Pope, even if he commands what is evil; for no one may judge the Pope'."

Look at how blasphemous the papacy is!!! They cannot be judged by God and Christ although they committed the most heinous of crimes!!! Can it be denied that the popes of the Catholic Church killed those who did not want to follow their doctrines?

In a book of the Catholic Church entitled, The truth About the Inquisition, written by John A. O'Brien, Nihil Obstat by Thomas E. Dillon, Imprimatur by John F. Noll, on pages 47-48, this is stated:

"Church's Responsibility....The [Catholic] Church cannot escape responsibility for the use of torture nor for the burning of victims at the stake. The Church in the person of her pontiffs was responsible for the use of torture; this cruel practice was introduced by Innocent lV in 1252. The pontiff tries to defend the use of torture by classifying heretics with thieves and murderers; a mere comparison is his only argument. This law of Innocent lV was renewed and confirmed by Alexander lV on November 30, 1259, and by Clement lV on November 3, 1265."

"Neither can the [Catholic] Church escape responsibility for sending heretics to be burnt to death at the stake. The mere subterfuge of having the victim turned over to the secular arm cannot hide the fact that the popes repeatedly insisted under pain of excommunication and interdict upon rulers enforcing the death penalty against heretics.

"Inquisition - Predominantly Ecclesiastical .... Despite these well established facts, Count De Maistre tries to whitewash the Church and the popes even of complicity in the execution of heretics, saying:'All that is terrible and cruel about this tribunal, especially, the death penalty, was due to the State.'"

Through the testimony of history and of books of the Catholic Church, the papacy cannot escape responsibility for bringing about killings of those who did not follow them!!! Death was the punishment for those who refused to follow their doctrines!!!

Improve your low I.Q.!!! Stop the shaming of your father and mother!!!

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History would attest that the Catholic Church had employed landgrabbing as a means to enrich the Vatican coffer:

"Pagan temples were either closed, transformed into Christian shrines or demolished. Their properties were summarily added to the Church's patrimony. The wealth of sundry religions was mercilessly expropriated, their clergy dismissed or persecuted, when not civilly or even physically obliterated. The transfer of political might made an easy transition into acquisitional power, the Roman Catholic Church set in earnest to promote a policy of swift appropriation of real estae, of highly renumerative governmental posts, and even of speculative monetary and commercial enterprises."

Reference:(The Vatican Billions, p.21)

The Roman Catholic Church is a landgrabber!!! It is no wonder why an ex-Roman Catholic priest, Adrian Hastings, has this to say against his religion:

"Church of sinners and of fools."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 126.)

"the power of the Church (Catholic) has been used in history to do the devil's work."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 127.)
So, are popes "vicars of Christ"??? A BIG NO!!! What are they "vicars" of??? Ruler of Space, Satan!!!
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Google 'Adrian Hastings + Wirimayu'

You will see that he has a history of making things up - like you, he is guilty of lying.

Simply calling yourself the Church of Christ does not make you so. In actuality, it makes you look a little dim.

You are simply too stupid to realize the derivation of the term. Jesus Christ was not his name! The word Christ was translated into Greek from the Hebrew mashiach (messiah), meaning "annointed". It stemmed from the Jews believing that Jesus of Nazareth was the annointed one or messiah.

"But who do you say that I am?"
Peter answered: "The Christ of God".~ Luke 9:20

"You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." ~ Matt 16:16

"Jesus, who is called Christ".~ Matthew 1:16

Martha told Jesus "You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is coming into the world." ~ John 11:27

You really should have studied the Bible more. Calling yourself the Church of Christ is silly. What that really means is that you are reaffirming a Jewish prophecy by being known as the Church of the Messiah.
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ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
Google 'Adrian Hastings + Wirimayu'
You will see that he has a history of making things up - like you, he is guilty of lying.
Base Gardiner,

Stop attacking someone who exposed the truth!!! Adrian Hastings made it known to the Catholic world that celibacy is a teaching of the devil!!! And that during mass, only the officiating priest drinks from the cup and not the ordinary worshippers although what is uttered by the priest is for everyone to partake of the cup!!!

You are of low I.Q. and that is why you cannot understand the intent of Hastings in correcting a false Catholic doctrine!!!

Improve your low I.Q. and stop shaming your parents!!!

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Simply calling yourself the Church of Christ does not make you so. In actuality, it makes you look a little dim.
Base Gardiner,

As members of the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo), we are portraying ourselves as the true Chriitians:


"Christian--From the Greek words Christos,'the annointed one': Christ and ian,'like','similar to'. The word refers to one who lives a life like Jesus, the Christ, are generally known."

Reference:[Miethe, Terry L. The Compact Dictionary of Doctrina Words, p.56. Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA: Bethany House Publishers, 1988.}

The true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo), while already authenticated by the Scriptures through prophecies and testimonies, is also authenticated by both Roman catholic and Protestant authorities:

"whoever he is and whatever he is, he who is not in the Church of Christ is not a Christian."

Reference:[Fremantle, Anne. The Papal Encyclicals: In Their Ministerial Context, p. 39. New York, USA: Mentor Book, 1956]

A Protestant author says:

"...Christ predicted the founding of a new congregation or church, a Divine institution that should continue His work on earth. Matt. 16:18. This is the Church of Christ..."

Reference:[Pearlman, Myer. Knowing the Doctrines of the Bible, p.349. Springfield, Missouri, USA: Gospel Publishing House, 1937, 1981.]

Take notice that they mentioned "Church" in singular form and with starting capital letter!!!

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ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
You are simply too stupid to realize the derivation of the term. Jesus Christ was not his name! The word Christ was translated into Greek from the Hebrew mashiach (messiah), meaning "annointed". It stemmed from the Jews believing that Jesus of Nazareth was the annointed one or messiah.
"But who do you say that I am?"
Peter answered: "The Christ of God".~ Luke 9:20
"You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." ~ Matt 16:16
"Jesus, who is called Christ".~ Matthew 1:16
Martha told Jesus "You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is coming into the world." ~ John 11:27
You really should have studied the Bible more. Calling yourself the Church of Christ is silly. What that really means is that you are reaffirming a Jewish prophecy by being known as the Church of the Messiah.
Base Gardiner,

Christ means the "Annointed One" or the "Chosen One"!!! The only Jesus who is given the name "Christ" is Jesus Christ!!! You should not fabricate things against the Iglesia ni Cristo for we conform with biblical teachings!!!

But your client in the Roman Catholic and Protestant cults do not consider Jesus Christ as the Son of God but as another God or as God the Son:

"Thus, for example, it was not until 325 A.D., at the Council of Nicaea, that the [Catholic} Church defined for us that it was an article of faith that Jesus is truly God."

Reference:(Discourses on the Apostles' Creed, p. 206)

"Natures and Person of Christ.- Jesus Christ, according to the Catechism familiar to English Catholics, is 'God the Son made man for us'..."

"Mga Kalikasan at Persona Ni Cristo.- Si Jesucristo, ayon sa Katesismong pamilyar sa mga Katolikong Ingles, ay "Diyos Anak" na ginawang tao alang-alang sa atin'..."

Reference:(Addis, William E. et. al. A Catholic Dictionary. p.
156. 17th Edition. Nihil Obstat: Joannes M.T. Barton, S.T.D.., L.S.S.., Censor deputatos; Imprimatur: E. Morrogh Bernard, Vic. Gen., Westminster. Londodn: Routledge and Kegan Paul Limited, 1960.)

There you go!!! Catholics and Protestants believe that Jesus Christ is "God the Son"!!! And not the "Son of God"!!!

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ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
You really should have studied the Bible more. Calling yourself the Church of Christ is silly. What that really means is that you are reaffirming a Jewish prophecy by being known as the Church of the Messiah.
Typhoid Gardiner,

Jesus Christ is the Messiah!!! Therefore the "Church of the Messiah" is the "Church of Christ"!!!

Your Tuskegee Syphilis and Typhoid are really gifting you with the poverty of thoughts!!!

Improve you low I.Q.!!! Stop shaming your father and mother!!!

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Stop attacking someone who exposed the truth!!!
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I say the same thing unto you. The Iglesia ni Cristo is a criminal enterprise. Your cult is filled with people who bastardize the Bible to fulfill their greed. You are no different than the radical Islamists who threw grenades into the Cotabato NC chapel.

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