Accused priest is removed from ministry

Accused priest is removed from ministry

There are 249 comments on the Philly.com story from Sep 16, 2012, titled Accused priest is removed from ministry. In it, Philly.com reports that:

The Rev. Theodore Podson in a recent photograph. He relocated to the South Pacific in 2003 and worked as a hospital chaplain on the Philippine island of Cebu.

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ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#75 Nov 30, 2012
What's your choice?

To recognize the Pope and priests as vicars of Christ...

"The official title of the pope is:'His Holiness the Pope, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ on Earth...'"

Reference:[K.E. Skydsgaard,et al.The Church As The Body of Christ, vol. 1, p.7]

"Vicar of Christ:the Pope as visible head of the Church,acting in place of Christ..."

Reference:[Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines. Catechism for Filipino Catholics, p.676]

"The priest is another Christ."

Reference:[Richard P. Hire,Our Christian Faith,p.154]

...or to hold that nobody can ever take the place of Christ?

"But He holds His priesthood unchangeably, because He lives on forever.Threfore He is able also to save to the uttermost ...those who come to God through Him, since He is always living to make petition to God and intercede with Him and intervene for them."[Heb.7:24-25, Amplified Bible]

"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." [Heb.13:8, NIV]

Note:
The Catholic Church teaches that, as Vicars of Christ, the Pope and the priests act in place of Jesus Christ. But the Bible declares that Christ "holds His priesthood unchangeably." He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Therefore no one can ever act in His place or be another Christ.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#76 Dec 2, 2012
What's your choice?

To believe that prayers and Masses offered for the dead relieve their sufferings in purgatory ...

"2. The faithful on earth, through the communion of saints, can relieve the sufferings of souls in purgatory by prayer, fasting, and other good works, by indulgences, and by having Masses offered for them."

Reference:[Louis LaRavoire Morrow, D.D. My Catholic Faith, p.243]

... or to renounce such unscriptural belief?

"... But the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward ...nevermore will they have a share in anything done under the sun." [Ecc. 9:5-6, New King James Version]

"All of us must appear in front of Christ's judgment seat. Then all people will receive what they deserve for the good or evil they have done while living ..." [11 Cor. 5:10, God's Word]

"Nowhere in the Scriptures does the word,'Purgatory', occur ..."

Reference:[Joseph Kenny, C.S.S.R. Purgatory: Doctrine of Comfort and Hope, p.2]

Note:
The Catholic Church upholds the belief that prayers and Masses for the dead relieve their sufferings in purgatory. On the contrary, the Bible teaches that the dead no longer benefit from what the living do. Moreover, nowhere in the Bible can we find the word "purgatory" or any teaching supporting it.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#77 Dec 2, 2012
While I find all organized religion to be a scam, given the choice between the Roman Catholic Church and your cult of fools, I would select the prior.

You insist that Christ's church cannot evolve. That is a scary concept to a cult so committed to one false precept. Your cult isn't even 100 years old. The RCC is nearly 2,000. They have adapted and accepted that like Christ, change is inevitable. Given that yor cult cannot even adopt one Bible as being correct, I can see why you fear the unknown.

I believe Keating made Ventilacion look like a first year cultist when they debated. Ventilacion insisted that St. Thomas was wrong, even though it is in the Bible. How can the Bible be wrong, stooge?
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#78 Dec 3, 2012
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
While I find all organized religion to be a scam, given the choice between the Roman Catholic Church and your cult of fools, I would select the prior.
Base Gardiner,

If you find organized religions as scams, then, what are you doing??? Why are you defending Adrian Hastings':

"Church of sinners and of fools."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 126.)

Or the Catholic Church described by Atty. Reynaldo Fajardo as a religion rocked with scandals???

"In contemporary history one is reminded again of the scandals in the center of Roman Catholicism. Bank scandals, counterfeiting, laundering of Mafia money from illegal business,(Narcotics, prostitution, kidnapping, etc.) name it you have it, kickbacks, hidden wealth-connections with the Mafia, the CIA, Communists and subtle hypocritical connections within the P2 (Propaganda Due-a secret and powerful Masonic Group headed by Licio Gelli).

"The graft and corruption involves billions of dollars. All these eventually leads to the untimely and tragic death of Pope John 1 (Albino Cardinal Luciani) who occupied the papacy for only 33 days ending on September 28, 1978. Research and formal investigations show evidences to murder!"

Reference:(Fajardo, Reynaldo T. Bulletin Today, April 16, 1986, p. 8.)

Stop playing hero for your inconsistencies!!! For heroes do not have low I.Q.s!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#79 Dec 3, 2012
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
You insist that Christ's church cannot evolve. That is a scary concept to a cult so committed to one false precept. Your cult isn't even 100 years old. The RCC is nearly 2,000. They have adapted and accepted that like Christ, change is inevitable. Given that yor cult cannot even adopt one
Base Gardiner,

If your meaning of "evolve" is change the biblical precepts or doctrines through fabrications as done by the Roman Catholic Church and Protestant cults, then, that will never happen from within the Iglesia ni Cristo!!! We fully conform to biblical tenets because adding or subtracting anything contrary to what are scripturally written have dire consequences:

"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll." (Revelation 22:18-19, NIV)

God and Christ do not allow any departure from the pristine biblical teachings and anything done to alter the true teachings have consequences!!!

The Roman Catholics and Protestant cults have admitted that indeed they have commited transgressions of the teachings when they admitted in these following manners:


"We Catholics acknowledge readily, without any shame, nay with pride, that Catholicism cannot be identified simply and wholly with primitive Christianity, nor even with the Gospel of Christ, in the same way that the great oak cannot be identified with the tiny acorn."

Reference:(Adam, Karl. The Spirit Of Catholicism, p.2. Revised Edition. Translated by Dom Justin McCann, O.S.B. Nihil Obstat: Arthur J. Scanlan, S.T.D., Censor Librorum. Imprimatur: Patrick cardinal hayes, Archbishop of New York. New York, USA: Image Books, 1954)

"Because Protestantism today is marked by division and duplication, today's churches bear little resemblance to the first century model."

Reference: Moore, Dr. "The Union That Shouldn't Be Labor." Moody Monthly, September 1984. p.28.

Indeed, denominationalism and factionalism have become so pervasive a characteristic of Protestant churches, prompting one Protestant author to conclude as written above!!!

Low I.Q.s contradict the Scriptures!!! Low I.Q.s cannot accept the fact that what they are doing are contrary to biblical tenets!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Ozzy

Catskill, NY

#80 Dec 3, 2012
So says the hypocritical INC drone.
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#81 Dec 3, 2012
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
I believe Keating made Ventilacion look like a first year cultist when they debated. Ventilacion insisted that St. Thomas was wrong, even though it is in the Bible. How can the Bible be wrong, stooge?
Base Gardiner,

You were not there during the debate but I was there together with four Navy shipmates!!! I was stationed at Naval Air Station Lemoore!!! Your opinion is a fabrication but mine is based on actual experience!!!

Had you been there, you would have had concluded like the rest that Keating's arguments were comparable to the statement of ex-Roman Catholic priest Adrian Hastings that Roman Catholicism is the:

"Church of sinners and of fools."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 126.)

And that ...

"the power of the Church (Catholic) has been used in history to do the devil's work."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 127.)

Low I.Q.s can never stand on firm ground when arguing!!! Keating fabricated something by truncating the word "almost" to make it appear that were are wrong!!! We are correct for this is the referecne that we used during the debate, a statement from a Roman Catholic historian:

"It cannot be without significance that the country which stands almost at the geographical center of the Far East, the Philippines, should also be that in which Christianity has taken the deepest root."

Reference:[Horacio dela Costa, Asia and the Philippines, p.169]

We used the historian's word "almost" but which Keating removed!!! Thus he ends up in China as the geographical center of the Far East!!!

No low I.Q. can ever win against the Iglesia ni Cristo ministers!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam


ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#82 Dec 3, 2012
Ozzy wrote:
So says the hypocritical INC drone.
Ozzy,

Catholic and Protestant authorities have made the statements!!! You should be chanelling your anger against them for playing the roles of Adrian Hastings' "Church of sinners and fools"!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Ozzy

Catskill, NY

#83 Dec 4, 2012
So you were actually there in 1914!? Amazing you are still alive! You must be such a healthy old geezer!
Ozzy

Catskill, NY

#84 Dec 4, 2012
Merry Christmas to all INC!!!

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#85 Dec 4, 2012
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Base Gardiner,
If you find organized religions as scams, then, what are you doing??? Why are you defending Adrian Hastings'?
Come on, stooge, admit that you were dropped as a child.

I have hardly defended him. On the contrary, I have exposed him for being a malcontent with a history of making up stories.
Or the Catholic Church described by Atty. Reynaldo Fajardo as a religion rocked with scandals???
"In contemporary history one is reminded again of the scandals in the center of Roman Catholicism. Bank scandals, counterfeiting, laundering of Mafia money from illegal business,(Narcotics, prostitution, kidnapping, etc.) name it you have it, kickbacks, hidden wealth-connections with the Mafia, the CIA, Communists and subtle hypocritical connections within the P2 (Propaganda Due-a secret and powerful Masonic Group headed by Licio Gelli).
"The graft and corruption involves billions of dollars. All these eventually leads to the untimely and tragic death of Pope John 1 (Albino Cardinal Luciani) who occupied the papacy for only 33 days ending on September 28, 1978. Research and formal investigations show evidences to murder!"
Reference:(Fajardo, Reynaldo T. Bulletin Today, April 16, 1986, p. 8.)
Please remind me when I defended that faith for those things.

[QUOTEStop playing hero for your inconsistencies!!! For heroes do not have low I.Q.s!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
[/QUOTE]

You have proven that your intelligence is beneath me. I don't know whether to pity you or maintain exposing your cult's afraid and evil. I'll stick to the latter.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#86 Dec 4, 2012
The video and transcripts of Keating's beat down of Ventialcion are available. Do take notice of how when questioned about Jesus and God being one;

Jesus is shown to be God most dramatically when Thomas, finally convinced that Jesus has risen, falls down and exclaims, "My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28).

When confronted with this passage in a debate with Catholic Answers founder Karl Keating, Iglesia apologist Jose Ventilacion replied with a straight face, "Thomas was wrong."

How can Thomas be wrong? That selective reading of the Bible is an INC trait. They beg that the Bible is infallible but just not that passage.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#87 Dec 4, 2012
If you have three hours to waste watching the INC cult get abused, watch this:

http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php...

Romero makes Ventialcion look silly. At about 37:30, Ventilacion begins by asking what is the title of the Church Romero and Keating represent. He is told and then uses a privately written theologic publishing (a thin book) to challenge it. Ventilacion is told that the Cathechism of the Catholic Church (a very substantial book) as published by the Vatican is the only publication that speaks for the Holy See. He looks perplexed when told that Roman Catholics can speak freely about their religion. LOL! The INC must dediacte hours towards tracing any written word that they can use to confuse.

I find it particularly amusing that Ventilacion had to juggle a dozen different Bible translations to construct his argument. Pitiful but we have seen our Guam based punching bag use the same ploy.
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#88 Dec 5, 2012
Ozzy wrote:
So says the hypocritical INC drone.
Ozzy,

The worship of "Pedo Calungsod" by Roman Catholics in the Philippines and whose image was brought to Mindanao is one cause why lots of people died during the typhoon!!! For God prohibits the worshipping of idols even if these are made of ivories!!!

To prove that the worship of images is not just an allegation, Apostle Paul made an enumeration of some of the objects worshipped by men in Catholicism and Protestantism:

"Instead of worshipping the immortal God, they worship images made to look like mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles." (Rom. 1:23, Ibid.)

The worship of graven images is commonly found among so many practicing Catholics and Protestants. Biblically, it is a downright lie that one is worshipping God but doing it in front of an image. The true children of God are admonished by the Apostles not to think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone -- an image made by man's design and skill.

" Since we are God's children, we should not suppose that his nature is anything like an image of gold or silver or stone, shaped by the art and skill of man." (Acts 17:29, Ibid.)

The true God introduced by our Lord Jesus Christ is a spirit.

'"God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth'." (John 4:24, NKJV)

There is a lie in the actual religious practice of the Catholic Church and Protestant cults, because knowing what God is really is, a Spirit, they still worship graven images.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#89 Dec 5, 2012
It is impossible to explain to our Guam based punching bag that Christianity is not entirely based upon what Christ said or did. It is how his followers chose to live after he died. It is an evolving thing.

Even I, a person who believes that organized religion is a scam, believes in the social structure that religion provides. Live a good life, be nice to the unfortunate, obey laws that serve the greater good, etc. It is truly ironic that a person who claims to be a devout member of Christ's church is so fast to denigrate those who also choose to follow his savior's words. What would Jesus do if he saw that happen today? I can't wait for Rizalino to tell us.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#90 Dec 5, 2012
I see that our Guam based punching bag is now attempting to blame the tragedy of the recent typhoon on the people of that region. Sad. I guess that is what Jesus would have done, right?

Who is "Pedo Calungsod"?

I find it funny that he was in such a hurry to type that he misspelled the person he was trying to denigrate. Pedro Calunsgod is not worshipped. For some who live near where this newly made saint used to, they revere him for being a great example of what Christ taught.

Can you say the same?
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#92 Dec 6, 2012
Matthew 28:19 states thus: "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

Take notice that the verse does not say "baptize them in the name of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit"!!! Therefore, the dogma of the Trinity which is not mentioned in the Bible cannot be made to exist anywhere except in the brains of the low I.Q., in their fabrications, and in the false beliefs of Roman Catholicism and Protestantism!!!

When was the fabrication of the dogma of the Holy Trinity??? When did this happen??? Roman Catholic history tells us:

"Thus, for example, it was not until 325 A.D., at the Council of Nicaea, that the [Catholic} Church defined for us that it was an article of faith that Jesus is truly God."

Reference:(Discourses on the Apostles' Creed, p. 206)

As to how the doctrine that the Holy Spirit is God came about, Catholic author, the Rev. Clement H. Crock, provides this information:

"In 381, at the Council of Constantinople, it was defined that it is an article of faith that the Holy Ghost is God."

Reference:(Crock, Clement H. Discourses on the Apostles' Creed, p. 206. Nihil Obstat: Arthur J. Scanlan, STD. Imprimatur: Patrick Cardinal Hayes. New York: John F. Wagner, Inc., 1938)

Take notice that the Council of Nicaea declared Christ as God in year 325 and the Council of Constantinople declared the Holy Spirit as God in year 381!!! The piecemeal fabrications of the Holy Trinity were done in the mentioned Catholic councils!!!

Therefore, it is clear that before the Council of Nicaea in year 325, the only true God that was worshipped by the Christians was the Almighty Father!!! And from the beginning of biblical history up to year 325, only one true God was worshipped by the children of God:

"Jesus was not called God in those early days ..."

"Si Jesus ay hindi tinawag na Diyos sa mga unang araw na yaon ..."
Reference: Lamsa, George. New Testament Commentary, p. 149.

So, at first it is clear that in year 325 and after the Council of Nicaea, the Roman Catholic Church only had two Gods!!! And after an interregnum of several years, the Catholic Church increased the number of their Gods to three when the Holy Spirit was added at the Council of Constantinople in year 381!!!

Summary:
1. Only one true God was worhipped by the children of God from the start of bilical history up to the days of the early Christians. No Trinity!!!

2. The apostate Catholic Church added another God in year 325 at the Council of Nicaea. Two Gods were worshipped (God the Father and God the Son, Christ). No Trinity yet.

3. After an interregnum of several years, the Catholic Church added another God, the Holy Ghost, in year 381.
By merely looking at the time interval starting from the first century, then, to year 325 when Christ was added as another God, and then, to year 381 when the Holy Ghost was added as another God, we can easily discern that the dogma of the Holy Trinity was an evolving fabrication of the Roman Catholic Church!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#93 Dec 6, 2012
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
Matthew 28:19 states thus: "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
Take notice that the verse does not say "baptize them in the name of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit"!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
I could have sworn you just wrote a bunch of nonsense from a Pasugo excerpt regarding how the Bible is just words that must be translated by the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Now, you want to pretend that the words are actually important?

Okay, St. Thomas speaks directly to the risen Jesus, calling him, "My Lord and my God." Every credible Bible translation states this fact. It's convenient that you believe Matthew's words to not be in need of explanation but Thomas' to require such.

ROTFLMAO!

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#94 Dec 6, 2012
You like to quote private, Roman Catholic authors. They do not speak for the Vatican any more than you speak for the stooges at the INC cult headquarters.
me1190

Philadelphia, PA

#95 Dec 6, 2012
Good! Every one of them should be thrown out of there. It's so disgusting.

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