Links to Aman Futures scam eyed in murder, arson

Nov 15, 2012 Full story: ABS-CBN News 18

Authorities are looking into the possibility that the murder this week of an insurance agent and an arson case are connected to a multi-billion-peso pyramiding scam festering in Mindanao since the middle of this year.

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#2 Nov 16, 2012
Filipinos go abroad to make a living while Chinese tourists are raping the natural resources of their country, digging gold worth billions of dollars and ends up in commie China Hong Kong semi- autonomous region.

The Chinese are the one benefiting in the natural resources of the Philippines. The same also is what's happening in Sabah and Sarawak where the Chinese from Singapore and Malaya are the ones exploiting the natural resources of the area instead of the Malays.

Foreigners should only be allowed 30% ownership in any companies operating in Sabah and Sarawak. Peninsular Malaya is dominated by Chinese so forget about Malaya so as Singapore.
crystal

Burnaby, Canada

#4 Nov 16, 2012
Ayonnnn!1 Yan ang napala niyo! Sana iniinvest nyo na lang sa mga Coconut Farmers at sa mga Farmers, Fishherman o sa mga lupain. Naku po mga tanga kayong lahat.

Gindi ba kayo nagtatanong sa Ohilippine FBI kong ang Aman Futures ay naka Bureau List O Hindi?

Kaseh ang mga Scammers ngayon ay mga insider jobs din yon.

Tapos ang mga scammers ngayon gagamiten nila ang pangalan nag mga Bangko, pangalan nang mga Manager na bangko, Gaya nang ginawa nang mga insik nag kukuunwareng sila ay mag-iinvest nang mga pera nang mga tao. Napaka imposible kong walang mga konsabo na mga police(kunware) ay naku po! Ayan, yan ang napala niyo. Naku poooo!!

kailan pa kayo magising. Sana inibigay niyo na lang sa mga mahihirap wala na sana tayong mga mahihirap. Sana ibinigay niyo na lang sa mga Pilipino na gusto mag-business. Sana ibinili niyo na lang sakong sakong bigas at ibibta niyo na lang sa sarili niyo!

Leksiyon na ito sa lahat nag mga Pinoy. Huwag na kayong paloko sa mga banyaga at ginagamit ang mga Pinay na asawa para makapagloko sila sa mga Pinoy.

Bakit kayo magtataka nang mga insikl sa atin kong niloloko kayo?

Kasalanan niyo dahil mga CLUELESS kayo.
crystal

Burnaby, Canada

#6 Nov 17, 2012
Nianakaw yong mga natural resources sa Pilipinas nag mga insik o sa mga dayuhan. Ano ba tayo! bakit hindi natin inaalgaan na mabuti ang Pilipinas. Naku poooooo!! Magbago na Tayoooo!!Please naman! Huwag tayong pabasta basta maloko sa mga banyaga!!
crystal

Burnaby, Canada

#7 Nov 17, 2012
Ay naku !! mga Tanga talaga tayo!! Basta basta na lang sumakay sa usap usapan!

Ano ba namn Tayo! Kahit naman na basic na Basic na kaalam ay walang wala talaga. Hayyyyy Pinoy, nasayang yong Bilyon bilyon na pera at naging Bato Pa!

Siyempre kahit sabihin na yon ay Scam O Hindi, bakit hindi sila nag-usisa? So what kong mga politivians yong nag-invest, police, teachers, Doctors, etc. Wala sa professions yong mag-iinvest nang pera! Kundi gamitin din natin yong Brain natin! Mag-isip muna! Maging Curious! Huwag mag padalos dlos! Huwag masyadong makubense.

Bakit man lang hindi mo tinaning yong sarili mo na?

1. Itong Aman Futures ay Scam ba ito O hindi?

2. Saan ako magtatanong_ Hoy huwag sa mga sabisabi o sa mga bolungbolungan kaseh tayong mga Pinoy, mahilig mag Trust agad. Ang tinitingnan ay yong mag tao nag sasabi nag Majority.- Huwag.
Siyempre sa almost 10 thousand na mga na Biktima, ni isa sa inyo ay hindi nag research O nag tanong sa Department of Justice kong itomg A,man Futures ay Scam O Hindi? Naku pooooo kayong mga Pinoy! sayanggg!!

Hindi ba kayo nagtatanong kung may
3.Special permits, clearance o Registrations nang Business?

etc.etc.
I'm sure na itong Scam na ito ay Big Time at Bilyon na Bilyong pera ang nawawala sa Pilipines.

Kung ako, yong bahay nag insil na yan, kailangan ipa Marshall!. baka nag Bunker yan nag maraming pera. Kung tottoong taga Malaysia, bakit wala man lang nakakita sa maraming pera. Seguro nanduiyan lang yan.

Bina Bunker nila ang pera. Imagine P12 biliion pesos , eh kung itakbo yan sa Malaysia, O sa Singapore O sa China, mahuhuli rin sila unless na ang

Kaseh, noon daw, sa banda Iloilo may mga PDEA ba baka Uniform pero hindi pala mga Pinoy! Mga insik daw sila o mga banyaga.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#8 Nov 19, 2012
Nakakalungkot lang na maging paulit-ulit tayong biktima ng mga dayuhan, pero hindi yata tama na tawagin nating tanga ang mga sarili natin dahil dito.

Kung iisipin mo lang kung bakit kahit mga police officers, business people at local officials ay nahikayat nilang mag-invest dito sa Aman Futures? Sa tingin mo ba talaga hindi sila nagtanung-tanong at nagresearch? Maaaring oo at maaaring hindi ang sagot, pero hindi naman natin alam kung ano ang basehan nila sa pag-invest.

Kung obvious at madaling ma-identify o tukuyin na scam itong Aman Futures, sa tingin mo maraming mag-aaksaya ng panahon at pera lalo na kung mga edukadong tao pa ang nagsipag-invest? Ang scam na ito ay pinag-isipan, pinagplanuhan at pinaghandaan ng maayos ng mga scammer para makaloko ng mga tao at makalikom ng pera, dahil kung hindi, walang mag-aabalang makinig sa alok nila.

Minsan may mga tao at organisasyon na magaling at lubhang profesyonal sa paggawa nito, at ang pinupukol nila ay ang hangarin nating mga pilipino na umasenso. Nagpakita sila ng paraan, mga testimonyal at ilang mga patunay ng pag-asenso mula sa mga naunang nag-invest at yun ang ginamit nilang pain para makahikayat na ng marami pa. Tulad din ng maraming pyramiding schemes, marami dito ay nahihikayat dahil sa mga referral ng mga taong may credentials. At kung ang nagrerefer ay isang taong kilala at pinagkakatiwalaan mo, maganda ang background profile, pinagkakatiwalaan sa lipunan o edukado, aba'y talagang madaling makukumbinse ang iba, lalo na kung ang iinvest mo ay hindi kasing laki ng start up capital kung ikaw ay magnenegosyo at ang promise ng return investment ay malaki.

Isa na naman tong paalala, na dapat eh magdoubt muna tayo bago maniwala, maging dayuhan man o kapwa pilipino ang mga kadeal natin. Ang pagtitiwala ay isang napakalaking bagay, kaya't bago pa may lumabas na panibagong strategy ang mga scammer, eh dapat gawin na natin leksyon itong Aman Futures at ang mga ibang pang scam.

Hindi tayo mga tanga kapatid. At kung pinapaniwalaan mo na ganon ang lahi ng pinoy, aba eh napakababa naman ng tingin mo hindi lang sa pinoy, kundi sa sarili mo rin. Bigyan naman natin ng pride ang lahi natin at wag ng hamakin pa ang mga biktima ng mga ganitong scam. Sa tingin ko eh wake up call na to sa mga nag-nanais umasenso, na walang madaling paraan. Ang pag-asenso ay pinaghihirapan at hindi ito makukuha overnight...
crystal

Burnaby, Canada

#9 Nov 20, 2012
'Aman Futures cashed out in Malaysia'
By Ron Gagalac, ABS-CBN News
Posted at 11/20/2012 5:57 PM | Updated as of 11/20/2012 6:41 PM

P15-B lost, 105,000 families victimized

MANILA, Philippines – Aman Futures Group cashed out almost half a million pesos everyday from an account in Malaysia when they started earning billions from investors, Pagadian Mayor Samuel Co said Tuesday.

Co said the daily withdrawals placed the investment group under the radar of the Anti-Money Laudering Council.

"Everyday they are outing P300,000-P400,000 a day. Nasa Malaysia ang mga pera ni Aman,” he said.

Co said he has information that most of the suspects in the Aman Futures scam are still in Mindanao but are moving from province to province to avoid detection.

He also said he does not know Donna Coyme, the Aman official who is being eyed as a state witness by the Department of Justice. "I do not know her at all,” he said.

He said the only time he encountered Coyme was when she personally brought the cheques of investors to Pagadian City Hall after the company shut down last September.

Zamboanga del Sur Gov. Antonio Cerilles, meanwhile, said that based on their latest monitoring, the firm actually duped some 105,000 families in his province alone, higher than the initially projected 15,000 victims.

The governor said that based on their estimates, Aman Futures got P15 billion in investments instead of the initial estimate of P12 billion.

He said he met mayors of different towns and confirmed the figures. He also warned that criminality may rise after a large number of residents lost their savings.

"Seventy-percent ng aming households ang naapektuhan,” he said.

Co should take blame

Cerilles said Co is among those primary responsible for the scam after he issued a temporary business permit for Aman Futures Group this year. He said Mayor Co vouched for the integrity of Aman.

"Binigyan ng lisensya eh. They were assured na safe investment ito,” he said.

crystal

Burnaby, Canada

#10 Nov 20, 2012
continuation-

Co, however, denied the allegation and said he actually cancelled Aman’s business permit as early as April. He later issued a temporary business permit for the firm pending completion of the firm’s requirements.

Both Cerilles and Co admitted Aman was under their radar in the first few months of its operation.

"Honestly, hindi ko napansin ito that early," Cerilles said.

"They started very small-scale,” added Co.

‘Everybody was earning’

In a memorandum dated June 4, Co ordered the then Chief of Police P/Supt. Kenneth Mission to investigate the continued operation of Aman despite lack of necessary legal authority to do so.

However, the police didn't lift a finger against Aman.

"I have a problem of closing it down because the [Philippine National Police] was afraid, and they say there are no complainants," Co said.

PNP Region 9 Dir C/Supt. Napoleon Estilles said they will be filing criminal and administrative charges against Mission, former Provincial Police Chief Sr. Supt William Manzan, and 12 other policemen for allegedly protecting the Aman Futures Group.

Co said that after failing to activate the police, he wrote Vice Mayor Romeo Pulmones and the Sangguniang Panglungsod to conduct an investigation.

Like in the PNP, Co said his order fell on deaf ears.

"It's so unfair to put the blame on me. Tao na ang kalaban ko dito, pati konseho walang nagawa,” he said, noting that everybody was joining and earning from Aman Futures until the company closed down in September.

Luxury cars

Co said he formally requested Aman, through its president Fernando Luna, to submit proper documents and certification to his office.

He said he gave Aman a 60-day temporary business permit pending the completion of requirements.

Co denied that he was close to Aman owner Manuel Amalilio after pictures circulated on the Internet showing them riding a luxury vehicle.

Co said his meeting with Amalilio when the photos were taken was an accident. He said he was supposed to meet a friend whom he didn't know was also with Amalilio.

He confirmed to ABS-CBN that the pictures were taken at the Range Rover store in Manila which Amalilio used as his second office.

He said Amalilio has 8 Range Rover vehicles, a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, and a Jaguar.

Mayor also lost money

The mayor said he tried to convince his constituents to stop investing in Aman through his radio program, press conferences, and even in his daily rounds in the city.

"I have warned people so many times,” he said.

However, he also admitted that he invested his own money in Aman Futures.

“I did invest also. Everybody was investing. Our (political) opponent is already investing, but I did not use my name sa investment," he said.

Cerilles asked the Commission on Audit to immediately look into the books of local government, especially Pagadian, to see if parts of their internal revenue allotment funds were used as investments to Aman.

Co said it is impossible for him to use the local government fund since there are 80 people in his treasury office that would have known about the transaction.

"Hindi mo matatakpan ang 80 na bibig dyan,” he said.
amc

San Juan, Philippines

#12 Nov 21, 2012
with out the aid of your corrupt government and dirty politicians none of these crimes would ever be possible.
why blame others when you are inviting them here to rob you?

BOTTOM LINE
hereeeeeees kenny

Muntinlupa, Philippines

#13 Nov 21, 2012
amc wrote:
with out the aid of your corrupt government and dirty politicians none of these crimes would ever be possible.
why blame others when you are inviting them here to rob you?
BOTTOM LINE
Bwhahahahahahha - So judging from your logic amc then the Govt of the USA is also extremly corupt ?? if they were not could Bernie madoff have scalped so many of so much ,even after having been warned several times , there scams are only possible with a good suppy of greedy fools -remember if it sounds too good to be true -it proberbly is .
hereeeeeees kenny

Muntinlupa, Philippines

#14 Nov 21, 2012
supply*
hereeeeeees kenny

Muntinlupa, Philippines

#15 Nov 22, 2012
Funny as hell - whenever i post MR DAMIEN STIPIC -rather than posting - now sends me text messages -guess he just got sick of everyone knowing he is forever glued to topix bwhahhahahhaha loserrrrrrrrrr.
hereeeeeees kenny

Muntinlupa, Philippines

#16 Nov 22, 2012
Bwhahaahahaha and right on cue three more texts from Mr DAMIEN STIPIC aka "that loser toilet cleaner" lol.
amc

Quezon City, Philippines

#17 Nov 22, 2012
hereeeeeees kenny wrote:
<quoted text>
Bwhahahahahahha - So judging from your logic amc then the Govt of the USA is also extremly corupt ?? if they were not could Bernie madoff have scalped so many of so much ,even after having been warned several times , there scams are only possible with a good suppy of greedy fools -remember if it sounds too good to be true -it proberbly is .
yes and right
hereeeeeees kenny

Muntinlupa, Philippines

#18 Nov 22, 2012
thanks for the judgement Mr Damien Stipic bwhahahahahahhaahahhahahaha
amc

Quezon City, Philippines

#19 Nov 22, 2012
hereeeeeees kenny wrote:
thanks for the judgement Mr Damien Stipic bwhahahahahahhaahahhahahaha
one can only imagine the video being played behind this guys eyes. what a nightmare existence.
amc

Quezon City, Philippines

#21 Nov 23, 2012
hereeeeeees kenny wrote:
<quoted text>
hahaha having just checked my screened messages i can tell you he is not very happy with you amc - there are three messages telling me what he would do to both you and i if - in his deluded mind he ever laying his hands on us -are you as worried as i am ??? Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahhah ahaha
:)

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#22 Dec 2, 2012
christopherbennetts wrote:
Nakakalungkot lang na maging paulit-ulit tayong biktima ng mga dayuhan, pero hindi yata tama na tawagin nating tanga ang mga sarili natin dahil dito.
Kung iisipin mo lang kung bakit kahit mga police officers, business people at local officials ay nahikayat nilang mag-invest dito sa Aman Futures? Sa tingin mo ba talaga hindi sila nagtanung-tanong at nagresearch? Maaaring oo at maaaring hindi ang sagot, pero hindi naman natin alam kung ano ang basehan nila sa pag-invest.
Kung obvious at madaling ma-identify o tukuyin na scam itong Aman Futures, sa tingin mo maraming mag-aaksaya ng panahon at pera lalo na kung mga edukadong tao pa ang nagsipag-invest? Ang scam na ito ay pinag-isipan, pinagplanuhan at pinaghandaan ng maayos ng mga scammer para makaloko ng mga tao at makalikom ng pera, dahil kung hindi, walang mag-aabalang makinig sa alok nila.
Minsan may mga tao at organisasyon na magaling at lubhang profesyonal sa paggawa nito, at ang pinupukol nila ay ang hangarin nating mga pilipino na umasenso. Nagpakita sila ng paraan, mga testimonyal at ilang mga patunay ng pag-asenso mula sa mga naunang nag-invest at yun ang ginamit nilang pain para makahikayat na ng marami pa. Tulad din ng maraming pyramiding schemes, marami dito ay nahihikayat dahil sa mga referral ng mga taong may credentials. At kung ang nagrerefer ay isang taong kilala at pinagkakatiwalaan mo, maganda ang background profile, pinagkakatiwalaan sa lipunan o edukado, aba'y talagang madaling makukumbinse ang iba, lalo na kung ang iinvest mo ay hindi kasing laki ng start up capital kung ikaw ay magnenegosyo at ang promise ng return investment ay malaki.
Isa na naman tong paalala, na dapat eh magdoubt muna tayo bago maniwala, maging dayuhan man o kapwa pilipino ang mga kadeal natin. Ang pagtitiwala ay isang napakalaking bagay, kaya't bago pa may lumabas na panibagong strategy ang mga scammer, eh dapat gawin na natin leksyon itong Aman Futures at ang mga ibang pang scam.
Hindi tayo mga tanga kapatid. At kung pinapaniwalaan mo na ganon ang lahi ng pinoy, aba eh napakababa naman ng tingin mo hindi lang sa pinoy, kundi sa sarili mo rin. Bigyan naman natin ng pride ang lahi natin at wag ng hamakin pa ang mga biktima ng mga ganitong scam. Sa tingin ko eh wake up call na to sa mga nag-nanais umasenso, na walang madaling paraan. Ang pag-asenso ay pinaghihirapan at hindi ito makukuha overnight...
COME ON CRYSTAL RESPOND TO THIS

Does it not prove that I am a Filipino?

Crystal is Evan Iliadis Cyber Stalker. He got a Filipino to write a response to this thread in Filipino as a way to try to prove he is the Canadian Filipina he claims to be.

The person i got to write this intelligent response to the post said that while the article is in Tagalog its most likely a Visayan speaking person. It contains none of his normal ranting and ravings. My writer said that there is no way the response in Filipino and other English responses by "Crystal" are written by the same person.

Crystal is a FAKE.

That fact that he submitted a response no more proves he is a real Filipina that my response proves that I am a Filipino

FAKE FAKE FAKE Evan Iliaids Troll and Cyber Stalker

“Matt Wilkie - Cebu Expat”

Since: Mar 12

Worcester

#23 Dec 2, 2012
Evan lying through his teeth? that does surprise me (not at all). Adding to that he's now alleging he has warrants for you "yet again" Chris.

Strange that he couldn't even follow up on his arrest for you at the Bureau Of Immigration. But then again if there WAS a warrant you were in Immigration!! Fact is Evan is just full of lies and a poisonous little cyber troll.

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