Prelate Implores Palace: Address Criminality

There are 34 comments on the Manila Bulletin story from Mar 13, 2012, titled Prelate Implores Palace: Address Criminality. In it, Manila Bulletin reports that:

Manila, Philippines - "I call on the anti-crime czar of PNoy and his government to open their eyes to what has been happening.

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Vox Populi

Quezon City, Philippines

#1 Mar 14, 2012
Lets go along with what the prelates are asking for from the Palace. There is no denying the fact that criminality is on the rise all over the country. Killings seem to hog the headlines in practically all Newspapers, so much so that we are becoming callous to such beastiality among ourselves. Mr. President, it is for the best of our country's future that we beg you to prioritize on the seriousness of the situation regarding crimes of manslaughter, rape, kidnapping, car napping etc.. to name a few. Many of our Policemen are in cahoots with the criminals and many of our courts are in league with the criminals. Please Mr President give it all you got to really clean up on our Peace ans Order problem.. Thank you!
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#2 Mar 17, 2012
Vox Populi wrote:
Lets go along with what the prelates are asking for from the Palace. There is no denying the fact that criminality is on the rise all over the country. Killings seem to hog the headlines in practically all Newspapers, so much so that we are becoming callous to such beastiality among ourselves. Mr. President, it is for the best of our country's future that we beg you to prioritize on the seriousness of the situation regarding crimes of manslaughter, rape, kidnapping, car napping etc.. to name a few. Many of our Policemen are in cahoots with the criminals and many of our courts are in league with the criminals. Please Mr President give it all you got to really clean up on our Peace ans Order problem.. Thank you!
Vox Populi,

I can't by my humble self go with the vain hypocrisy of the Roman Catholic leaders!!! It is their duty to nurture the norms and conduct of civilized society before their unbecoming goats!!! Leadership by example should be resorted to by them and therefore the priesthood should be devoid of any dirty linen in the closet!!! But the matter is not the case among the Roman Cathoic and Protestant leaders for they are are the dirty linens themselves!!! And their dirty lines are always in the headlines of the tri-media all over the world!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#3 Mar 17, 2012
Philippine jails as well as that of other countries are filled 99.99% with inmates coming from the Catholic and Protestant churches!!! These false religions have failed the civilized and moral world but instead of owning-up their weaknesses they are passing the buck!!!

EXPOSE THE REAL CULPRITS!!! EXPOSE THE LANDGRABBINGS, INQUISITIONS, ETHNIC CLEANSINGS, GENOCIDES, RAPES AND MURDERS COMMITTED BY THESE FALSE RELIGIONS THROUGH THE CENTURIES!!! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT THEIR FALSITIES!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#4 Mar 17, 2012
From Roman Catholic authorities come this following admission:

"We Catholics acknowledge readily, without any shame, nay with pride, that Catholicism cannot be identified simply and wholly with primitive Christianity, nor even with the Gospel of Christ, in the same way that the great oak cannot be identified with the tiny acorn."

Reference:

The Spirit Of Catholicism, p.2

Authorities of the Roman Catholic Church have admitted without shame that their religion cannot be identified with primitive Christianity nor even with the Gospel of Christ!!!

The religion is thus a false religion espousing devious doctrines!!! Now, what can we expect from the doctrines of the devil??? The 99.99% Catholic and Protestant inmates in jails all over the world is the only absolutely correct answer!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam


ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#5 Mar 17, 2012
Third sex identities are so prevalent in the priesthood of the Roman Catholic Church!!! Male and female were the two exclusive genders created and there was never a third!!!

But the crimes of the Roman Catholic priests expose the naked truth about the true composition of their leadership!!! The gender of these criminals cannot be identified with the originals and "in the same way that the great oak cannot be identified with the tiny acorn."

It is very funny!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#6 Mar 17, 2012
This is what I learned from the deceased President John F. Kennedy:

"My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what can you do for your country."

This was followed up by:

"My fellow citizens of the world, ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

The statements are explicitly clear that there should be no "passing the buck"!!! All falsities must be tossed out most especially if it is for the good of man!!!

The Roman Catholic leaders have admitted that they espouse false doctrines, thus, there is a need to depart and reject from what is false!!! GET OUT FROM THE FALSE RELIGIONS OF ROMAN CATHOLICISM AND PROTESTANTISM!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Attila the Hun

Quezon City, Philippines

#7 Mar 17, 2012
mr. ibarra, are you well paid by the Atheistic organization ? You ae using up space in the
Forum,fomenting hate when at times like these we need understanding and love of God and our fellowmen. Do you feel the hot breath of Satan everyday. Stop the silly attack on the religious organizations and direct you attention to the problems of criminality instead. Your brains can best be used to help others than spreading hatred wherever you can. You are not all bad, you are just flounting your intelligence to be noticed. Stop putting yourself on a Pedestal.
Kiwi hater

Penrith, Australia

#8 Mar 17, 2012
while elias and equalizer come hear deffending their flake god the real christians are the ones who dont come to forums like this one being racist and attacking people this is what a drone like elias and equalizer will not dare to discuss openly in a forum like topix

The Violence Continues in Northern Nigeria

Tuesday March 13 2012 11:00 AM | Posted by persecution

Acts of violence continue to take place throughout Northern Nigeria between extremist Muslim groups and Christians. The latest example of such violence recently occurred when a suicide bomber from the group Boko Haram killed three people and wounded many others during a Catholic Mass. Christian youth retaliated, killing at least seven. This type of violence is an ever-present danger in Nigeria due to the aggression of Boko Haram. This extremist group is open about its motives to annihilate Christians and receives very little opposition from authorities. Please pray for the people of Nigeria. Lift up Christians, moderate Muslims, and government officials as they live in constant fear of a Boko Haram attack. Pray that God intervenes in the Boko Haram and that they may come to know Him. Also, pray that Christian youth cease killing Muslims in retaliation.
Kiwi hater

Penrith, Australia

#9 Mar 17, 2012
the INC is just as guilty as the catholic church for the crimes they have committed in the countrys they have set up their flake churches

elias your just a fcukin drone we dont take what you say serious or do we want to know anything about the flake god you worship

know why is this not happening in the philippines

Raids on House Churches

Mass arrest in China - please pray: We have just received news of a mass arrest of 170 house church Christians in Nanyang County, Henan Province.


The believers had assembled for worship when Public Security Bureau officers raided the meeting place. After the arrest, the police started processing the detainees to identify the leaders. They are presently holding 14 leaders, while the rest of the Christians were forced to pay fines before being fingerprinted, warned, and released. The 14 leaders face more serious charges and may be imprisoned. It is usual in such arrests for the leaders to be beaten and tortured at this stage....


Nanyang County is one of the strongest Christian areas in China. It first experienced a tremendous revival which started in the 1970s and continues to this day. Perhaps 40% to 50% of the 1.1 million population in the county believe in the Lord Jesus, including many entire villages. Over the years it has been the scene of some of China's strongest and most diabolical persecution. Nanyang has produced many of China's house church leaders, including Brother Yun and Peter Xu Yongze.
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#10 Mar 17, 2012
Attila the Hun wrote:
mr. ibarra, are you well paid by the Atheistic organization ? You ae using up space in the
Forum,fomenting hate when at times like these we need understanding and love of God and our fellowmen. Do you feel the hot breath of Satan everyday. Stop the silly attack on the religious organizations and direct you attention to the problems of criminality instead. Your brains can best be used to help others than spreading hatred wherever you can. You are not all bad, you are just flounting your intelligence to be noticed. Stop putting yourself on a Pedestal.
Attila the goat,
The problem of criminality is due to the failure in the role modelling of the leaders of the false religions!!! The Roman Catholic priests as well as the Protestant ministers must clean up first their closet before they could say of anything against the government!!! They failed in leading their herd of goats towards normal and standard behavior!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#11 Mar 17, 2012
Kiwi hater wrote:
while elias and equalizer come hear deffending their flake god the real christians are the ones who dont come to forums like this one being racist and attacking people this is what a drone like elias and equalizer will not dare to discuss openly in a forum like topix
The Violence Continues in Northern Nigeria
Tuesday March 13 2012 11:00 AM | Posted by persecution
Acts of violence continue to take place throughout Northern Nigeria between extremist Muslim groups and Christians. The latest example of such violence recently occurred when a suicide bomber from the group Boko Haram killed three people and wounded many others during a Catholic Mass. Christian youth retaliated, killing at least seven. This type of violence is an ever-present danger in Nigeria due to the aggression of Boko Haram. This extremist group is open about its motives to annihilate Christians and receives very little opposition from authorities. Please pray for the people of Nigeria. Lift up Christians, moderate Muslims, and government officials as they live in constant fear of a Boko Haram attack. Pray that God intervenes in the Boko Haram and that they may come to know Him. Also, pray that Christian youth cease killing Muslims in retaliation.
Kiwi Trashed,

See!!! The Roman Catholics and Protestants are involved again in violence!!! It is because the landgrabbings in the Dark Continent were solely perpetrated and perpetuated by Catholics and Protestant alike!!! You only have to remember the kidnappings on Africans in order to be made slaves in cotton plantations and others!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#12 Mar 17, 2012
Kiwi hater wrote:
the INC is just as guilty as the catholic church for the crimes they have committed in the countrys they have set up their flake churches
elias your just a fcukin drone we dont take what you say serious or do we want to know anything about the flake god you worship
know why is this not happening in the philippines
Kiwi Trashed,
What crime of the Iglesia Ni Cristo are you talking about??? If no Iglesia Ni Cristo is mentioned in the newspapers that only means that the criminal is Roman Catholic or Protestant!!! Why are you denying this aspect in our daily life???

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#13 Mar 17, 2012
Kiwi hater wrote:
Raids on House Churches
Mass arrest in China - please pray: We have just received news of a mass arrest of 170 house church Christians in Nanyang County, Henan Province.
The believers had assembled for worship when Public Security Bureau officers raided the meeting place. After the arrest, the police started processing the detainees to identify the leaders. They are presently holding 14 leaders, while the rest of the Christians were forced to pay fines before being fingerprinted, warned, and released. The 14 leaders face more serious charges and may be imprisoned. It is usual in such arrests for the leaders to be beaten and tortured at this stage....
Nanyang County is one of the strongest Christian areas in China. It first experienced a tremendous revival which started in the 1970s and continues to this day. Perhaps 40% to 50% of the 1.1 million population in the county believe in the Lord Jesus, including many entire villages. Over the years it has been the scene of some of China's strongest and most diabolical persecution. Nanyang has produced many of China's house church leaders, including Brother Yun and Peter Xu Yongze.
Kiwi Trashed,

You are again riding on the lies of the Roman Catholic and Protestants!!! They are arrested by the Chinese because they are selling and using drugs!!! Who introduced opium to the Chinese based on history??? The Catholics and Protestants!!! You are historical ignoramus!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#14 Mar 17, 2012
Kiwi hater wrote:
Raids on House Churches
Mass arrest in China - please pray: We have just received news of a mass arrest of 170 house church Christians in Nanyang County, Henan Province.
Kiwi Trashed,

These are not Christians but drug addicts and gangster cliques!!! here's the true meaning of Christians:

"Christian--From the Greek words Christos,'the annointed one': Christ and ian,'like','similar to'. The word refers to one who lives a life like Jesus, the Christ , are generally known."

Reference:

Miethe, Terry L. The Compact Dictionary of Doctrinal Words, p.56. Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA: Bethany House Publishers, 1988.}

And according to an ex-Catholic nun:

"whoever he is and whatever he is, he who is not in the Church of Christ is not a Christian."
Reference:

Fremantle, Anne. The Papal Encyclicals: In Their Ministerial Context, p. 39. New York, USA: Mentor Book, 1956

The former nun had said that if you are not in the Church of Christ [Iglesia Ni Cristo] you are not a Christian!!! Therefore, those arrested in China are not Christians but pseudo-Christians!!! They are arrested because of their abominable acts!!!

Why is it reported that Christians were arrested??? Because the Roman Catholic and Protestant cults are trying to make money by way of bismirching the reputation of China!!! They are sensationalizing the issue to make money!!!

There were several mass arrests too with regards to "Occupy Wall Street" but did the Protestants and Catholics raise an alarm??? A BIG NO!!! Why??? Because the Roman Catholic and Protestant churches have large investments in Wall Street!!! And when the debacle ensued, they started selling chapels with empty pews to the Iglesia Ni Cristo!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

“Nuke the mother fcukers ”

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#16 Mar 17, 2012
drone you were told we dont listen to what your so good at leaving in this forum its evident how fcukin screwed in the head you are elias

you said to me the inc church started from when jesus and the apostles were walking this earth elias your full of shit why if what you had said is true INC members would have endured the same fcukin fate as christ and his apostles and the christians who wer killed

your god you belive in is nothing but a fcukin puzzy elias

The earliest persecution Christians faced was from the Jewish leaders in the years immediately following Jesus’ death and resurrection. We read of these troubles in the book of Acts. First Stephen was stoned to death for blasphemy. The Apostle Paul, then known as Saul, was hired by the high priest in Jerusalem to go as far as Damascus to arrest Christians. And King Herod had the apostle James (the brother of John) executed and imprisoned Peter, possibly to appease the religious authorities.
The Romans were not yet active participants in these persecutions. Their job was to keep the peace. And if Jewish leaders could blame Christians for stirring up trouble, the Romans would crack down on the Christians. This is sort of what happened with Jesus’ crucifixion, and it almost happened with Paul, except he played his trump card—Roman citizenship—and demanded a trial in Rome.
Judaism was officially deemed a legal religion in the Roman Empire, unlike many foreign cults, and for the first few decades after Jesus, the Romans lumped the Christians in with the Jews. Most Christians were Jews, and the differences seemed like minor variations on the same theme. In fact, Roman historian Suetonius commented on some disputes occurring in Roman tenements. The Jews, he said, were being agitated by somebody named Chrestus. Forgive him for not getting the whole story. Certainly it was Christus—Christ, the Messiah—they were arguing about, the Jews who trusted Christ disputing with those who didn’t. Shortly after that, Emperor Claudius threw them all out of Rome, Jews and Christians alike.
By the late 50s, early 60s, it seems the tide was turning. Rome began to be suspicious of the Christians. This was, they were figuring out, a new religion, and therefore an illegal one. In Paul’s letters of that time, we can sense a greater opposition
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#17 Mar 18, 2012
Kiwi hater wrote:
drone you were told we dont listen to what your so good at leaving in this forum its evident how fcukin screwed in the head you are elias
you said to me the inc church started from when jesus and the apostles were walking this earth elias your full of shit why if what you had said is true INC members would have endured the same fcukin fate as christ and his apostles and the christians who wer killed
Kiwi Trashed,

Allow me to have a Roman Catholic priest answer you:

"5. Did Jesus Christ establish a Church? Yes, from all history, both secular and profane, as well as from the Bible considered as a human document, we learn that Jesus Christ established a Church, which from the earliest times has been called after Him the Christian Church or the Church of Christ."

Reference:

Cassilly, Francis B., S.J. Religion: Doctrine and Practice. For Use in Catholic High Schools pp. 442-443. Twelfth and Revised Edition. USA: Loyola University Press, 1926.

As attested to by the Roman Catholic priest, Jesus Christ established a Church, which from the earliest times has been called after Him the Christian Church or the Church of Christ [Iglesia Ni Cristo].

And true indeed, the first-century Church members suffered persecutions and were killed such as the Iglesia Ni Cristo deacon in the name of Stephen!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#18 Mar 18, 2012
Kiwi hater wrote:
The earliest persecution Christians faced was from the Jewish leaders in the years immediately following Jesus’ death and resurrection. We read of these troubles in the book of Acts. First Stephen was stoned to death for blasphemy. The Apostle Paul, then known as Saul, was hired by the high priest in Jerusalem to go as far as Damascus to arrest Christians. And King Herod had the apostle James (the brother of John) executed and imprisoned Peter, possibly to appease the religious authorities.
The Romans were not yet active participants in these persecutions. Their job was to keep the peace. And if Jewish leaders could blame Christians for stirring up trouble, the Romans would crack down on the Christians. This is sort of what happened with Jesus’ crucifixion, and it almost happened with Paul, except he played his trump card—Roman citizenship—and demanded a trial in Rome.
Judaism was officially deemed a legal religion in the Roman Empire, unlike many foreign cults, and for the first few decades after Jesus, the Romans lumped the Christians in with the Jews. Most Christians were Jews, and the differences seemed like minor variations on the same theme. In fact, Roman historian Suetonius commented on some disputes occurring in Roman tenements. The Jews, he said, were being agitated by somebody named Chrestus. Forgive him for not getting the whole story. Certainly it was Christus—Christ, the Messiah—they were arguing about, the Jews who trusted Christ disputing with those who didn’t. Shortly after that, Emperor Claudius threw them all out of Rome, Jews and Christians alike.
By the late 50s, early 60s, it seems the tide was turning. Rome began to be suspicious of the Christians. This was, they were figuring out, a new religion, and therefore an illegal one. In Paul’s letters of that time, we can sense a greater opposition
Kiwi Trashed,

I am not arguing with you on what you posted for these were all true!!! It was the Jews themselves who first persecuted Christ, the Apostles, and the members of the first-century Church of Christ [Iglesia Ni Cristo]!!! And Apostle Paul, whose name was Saul at first, was one of those who hated the Christians so much and one deacon of the Church of Christ, Stephen, was killed while Saul was watching!!!

But on his way to Damascus to perpetrate and perpetuate further his persecutions, Saul heard the voice of Christ calling him and asking why he was persecuting Him!!!

Take note that Christ at this time had ascended already to heaven!!! But why did Christ ask Saul "why he was persecuting Him" and not the members??? It is because Christ is the Head of His body, the Church:

"And He is the head of the body, the church..." [Col. 1: 18, NKJV].

Christ and the Church which is His body are inseparable and the pain or persecution felt by the body [Church] was also felt by Christ!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Lucas Malakas

Quezon City, Philippines

#19 Mar 18, 2012
What the heck are you doing Ibarra ? You are abusing the privilege to write a comment and here you are writing a booklenght commentary ? Shame on you. But have you some shame left in you? Common Ibarra, get a job or do something else, or are you a wheel chair patient ?Write a book or something else but dont make Forum your archives.

Since: Oct 11

Quezon, Philippines

#20 Mar 18, 2012
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Kiwi Trashed,
These are not Christians but drug addicts and gangster cliques!!! here's the true meaning of Christians:
"Christian--From the Greek words Christos,'the annointed one': Christ and ian,'like','similar to'. The word refers to one who lives a life like Jesus, the Christ , are generally known."
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
I came from a devoute Christian family. I always tell my relatives when people look at you and they don't see Christ in you because you are not Christ like. Don't call yourselves Christians because you will cause people to stumble.
Elias, are you Christ like?
Many Protestant and Catholics are in jail. Does that mean INCs are saints?
Many law breakers are INC members too.
You need proof?
Don't be a hypocrite, you will cause people to stumble.
Lucas Malakas

Quezon City, Philippines

#21 Mar 18, 2012
Pepeng Agimat wrote:
<quoted text>
I came from a devoute Christian family. I always tell my relatives when people look at you and they don't see Christ in you because you are not Christ like. Don't call yourselves Christians because you will cause people to stumble.
Elias, are you Christ like?
Many Protestant and Catholics are in jail. Does that mean INCs are saints?
Many law breakers are INC members too.
You need proof?
Don't be a hypocrite, you will cause people to stumble.
Thanks for upholding the dignity of the Christian Church my friend, we have a man here in the guise of the Devil who has too stop his nonsensical attack against Christianity and our Church.

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