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Apr 16, 2008

YouTube surgery video investigated

(AP) MANILA, Philippines - A video posted on YouTube showing Philippine doctors laughing while removing an object from a patient may lead to charges against the surgeons and cost them their medical licenses, officials said Wednesday.

The unauthorized nearly 3-minute video of a noisy operating room shows doctors and nurses laughing, giggling and cheering.

At one point, a hand appears with a cell phone camera taking a close-up picture of the surgery.

As a doctor gingerly pulls out the 6-inch long canister from the male patient’s rectum, someone shouts, "Baby out!" amid loud cheers.

The doctor then removes the canister cap and sprays the contents toward the crowd of nurses and doctors viewing the procedure.

It remains unclear who shot the video and who posted it on YouTube, but the person who posted it removed it from the Web site Wednesday.

The video has angered the unidentified patient who plans to press charges, his lawyer Guiller Ceniza said Wednesday.

The government-run Vicente Sotto Memorial Medical Center in the central city of Cebu, where the surgery took place, is conducting an investigation, a spokesman said Wednesday.

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#1
Apr 16, 2008
 
Yeah, this is quite unfair.

The patient was dis-empowered.

I think no relative was around when it happened. But as Cebu is quite small unlike other places, the medical personnel should have been neighborly enough not to be taking advantage.
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Apr 18, 2008
 
The doctors will lost thier license because they did not respect the privacy of the client..!Giving privacy to the patient is in the code of ethics...!
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Apr 18, 2008
 
i was not really on the scene when it happened, but according to feedbacks there were a lot of people actually taking the videoes..it was also said that a certain clinical instructor from a certain school was the one who shouted baby out!! i must say, that as a nurse, i am truly ashamed for what they did..theses people really ought to have their licenses suspended..and for the students involved, they should not be given their licenses
i dont really care whatever are the other facts of this incident..shame on dr. arias, nurses, students and other people who participated in that farce..
but in fairness sad sa mga other staffs sa sotto, not everyone there are acting as barbaric as they did..a lot of the staffs there also appreciate the value of privacy and human dignity of their patients..
maybe next time, we members of the healthcare profession(not only of the sotto staff) should put in mind our hippocratic and nightingale oaths and
pledges..

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Apr 18, 2008
 
nurseko wrote:
i was not really on the scene when it happened, but according to feedbacks there were a lot of people actually taking the videoes..it was also said that a certain clinical instructor from a certain school was the one who shouted baby out!! i must say, that as a nurse, i am truly ashamed for what they did..theses people really ought to have their licenses suspended..and for the students involved, they should not be given their licenses
i dont really care whatever are the other facts of this incident..shame on dr. arias, nurses, students and other people who participated in that farce..
but in fairness sad sa mga other staffs sa sotto, not everyone there are acting as barbaric as they did..a lot of the staffs there also appreciate the value of privacy and human dignity of their patients..
maybe next time, we members of the healthcare profession(not only of the sotto staff) should put in mind our hippocratic and nightingale oaths and
pledges..
Thanks for participating here.
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Apr 21, 2008
 
This is such a shame! What happened to patients rights of privacy? Jane, from what i heard yung nag upload is a nursing student galing sa UVisayas, Mr. Fajardo? Tapos yung sanction nya is suspension lang and nakagraduate pa siya? Is this true? Can someone enlighten us on this!?
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Apr 21, 2008
 
filipinos complain against bullying and discrimination when out of the country. Yet, we have these nasty discriminators lurking within our country.
For me it is a clear discrimination because the patient is gay.

Now shoved the camera unto the doctor's ass, so he may feel the same agony that the man experienced.For all we know this is not the first time. The video suggested that they are used to the actuations. It's like a gag show whenever they do operations. I wonder how they save lives?
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Apr 22, 2008
 
OUTA_Here wrote:
filipinos complain against bullying and discrimination when out of the country. Yet, we have these nasty discriminators lurking within our country.
For me it is a clear discrimination because the patient is gay.
Now shoved the camera unto the doctor's ass, so he may feel the same agony that the man experienced.For all we know this is not the first time. The video suggested that they are used to the actuations. It's like a gag show whenever they do operations. I wonder how they save lives?
Pakaulaw!
Correct! Everywhere, gays are being discriminated.

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Apr 22, 2008
 
opoe wrote:
This is such a shame! What happened to patients rights of privacy? Jane, from what i heard yung nag upload is a nursing student galing sa UVisayas, Mr. Fajardo? Tapos yung sanction nya is suspension lang and nakagraduate pa siya? Is this true? Can someone enlighten us on this!?
Right! If nobody dares speak against those sanctions, people will not be aware. The public should be wary. What are they? What positions do they occupy? Are they that powerful?

One way to hit them is to keep commenting about what they did with their full names in tow. They will carry the emotional load for as long as the Internet is alive.
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Apr 23, 2008
 
"I hope this will not be happen again in the FUTURE"
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Apr 24, 2008
 
Here's the picture.

1. The patient is a gay by natural circumstances, not by choice, so a victim in a way.

2. As a gay he's attracted to same sex so he mingled and drank with men that night, and the word is that the people who put the canister in there made fun of him when he got drunk (unconscious, too weak to resist, and all) knowing he was gay. He is a victim.

3. Couldn't afford an expensive private hospital (he lives on a minimum wage salary as a flower shop helper), he was forced to have treatment at a government hospital. The doctors, knowing he was poor belonging to the lower class, ridiculed him no end before, during, and after operation, took video, and circulated the video to venues available to them including youtube. He is a victim.

4. The patient is now the topic of many condemnation and mockery all over, people laughing at him and his family, and now he is even receiving death threats!!! He is a victim.

When will the anguish, mental torture, social humiliation, tainted reputation, etc. end for this victim? Let's laugh!!! Call him names!!! This world is full of hypocrites!!!!
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Jul 3, 2008
 
opoe wrote:
This is such a shame! What happened to patients rights of privacy? Jane, from what i heard yung nag upload is a nursing student galing sa UVisayas, Mr. Fajardo? Tapos yung sanction nya is suspension lang and nakagraduate pa siya? Is this true? Can someone enlighten us on this!?
Mr. Roberto Wayde Fajardo, who just took the nursing board exam, admitted of uploading the video in youtube; he submitted a letter of apology to the University of the Visayas dean, college of nursing. His source was Mr. Ramon Pandaan, clinical instructor from Southwestern University and also the OR Nurses Association of the Phils.(ORNAP), president, Cebu Chapter. Pandaan was present during the procedure and took unauthorized video of the surgery, spread it to other mobile phones thru bluetooth devices until it reached the phone of the irresponsible clueless nursing student who uploaded it in youtube. THe surgical team had no control anymore as Pandaan spread it around. Thus, Pandaan and Fajardo broke the code of patient confidentiality.

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Jul 3, 2008
 
dalmacio wrote:
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Mr. Roberto Wayde Fajardo, who just took the nursing board exam, admitted of uploading the video in youtube; he submitted a letter of apology to the University of the Visayas dean, college of nursing. His source was Mr. Ramon Pandaan, clinical instructor from Southwestern University and also the OR Nurses Association of the Phils.(ORNAP), president, Cebu Chapter. Pandaan was present during the procedure and took unauthorized video of the surgery, spread it to other mobile phones thru bluetooth devices until it reached the phone of the irresponsible clueless nursing student who uploaded it in youtube. THe surgical team had no control anymore as Pandaan spread it around. Thus, Pandaan and Fajardo broke the code of patient confidentiality.
Ok, i dont wanna antagonize you but to clear up things, let me be the devil's advocate here.

Would Mr. Pandaan be able to take video recordings without the consent of the surgeon? Why did the doctor allow that? I mean, can hospital employees just barge in an operating room and take videos of the procedure without the doctor and patient's consent?

The basic principle is that if a violation of law happened in the presence of a person in authority, and that person did nothing to stop the offender, then he is guilty of the same offense.

Without that video, there was nothing to upload to YOutube, right? Besides, the uploading has no substantial bearing in the case because the patient in the video is faceless and nameless anyway as you pointed out earlier. If anything, the youtube video can serve as an evidence that there was indeed a violation of the patient's rights. The video taker unwittingly took video that could incrminate all of them.

If ever the case reaches a full blown trial, I think that more or less, the verdict will be such that the video-taker and the others present in the room will be found guilty by commission, while the persons in authority, such as the surgeon, will be found guilty by omission.
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Jul 4, 2008
 
nope. the surgeon did not know people were taking videos or pictures. the circulating nurse did nothing to stop the people from coming in and taking footages. the surgeon was in the middle of a delicate work; the circulating nurse should have done her part...
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Jul 7, 2008
 
We can talk forever on this issue. But those responsible should be punished!!! Doctors and nurses etc. who took that video should be punished and be terminated. They are a disgrace in the cebuano society and to Pilipinos as a whole. Gays are human they deserved respect. They don't bother anybody their fun to be with and there is no reason to treat them this way very humiliating. Nobody should treat anyone gay or not they have no rights to do such a thing. Sorry is not gonna be enough this kind of an act especially in this fields should not be tolerated. I'm waiting the judgement day on this case.... hopefully justice will be served to those responsible!!!!!!!
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Jul 7, 2008
 
Terribly Sorry wrote:
Here's the picture.
1. The patient is a gay by natural circumstances, not by choice, so a victim in a way.
2. As a gay he's attracted to same sex so he mingled and drank with men that night, and the word is that the people who put the canister in there made fun of him when he got drunk (unconscious, too weak to resist, and all) knowing he was gay. He is a victim.
3. Couldn't afford an expensive private hospital (he lives on a minimum wage salary as a flower shop helper), he was forced to have treatment at a government hospital. The doctors, knowing he was poor belonging to the lower class, ridiculed him no end before, during, and after operation, took video, and circulated the video to venues available to them including youtube. He is a victim.
4. The patient is now the topic of many condemnation and mockery all over, people laughing at him and his family, and now he is even receiving death threats!!! He is a victim.
When will the anguish, mental torture, social humiliation, tainted reputation, etc. end for this victim? Let's laugh!!! Call him names!!! This world is full of hypocrites!!!!
you are right! If the poor guy at this moment received a death treats so here come again. And of course if there is a death treats i'm sure they are not from AlaskA.... they still have the appetite to do death treats after what they did to the guy they are really something else...
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