ASIA/PHILIPPINES - The Bishops on the upcoming elections: we need a law against political dynasties

Jan 30, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Fides News

The corruption and the cumbersome presence of "political dynasties", that heavily influence public life, are an obstacle to genuine democratization in the country and are part of a "long litany of storms" in addition to natural disasters: this is what the Bishops of the Philippines say in a pastoral statement issued yesterday, at the conclusion of ... (more)

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Jan 30, 2013
 
True and it could be beneficial for the masses if they also look in the mirror. The people needs to be led out off the mosses type of golden statuette worship frenzy. Stick to reality and keep people sane.
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This early prior to a national election, the "lolong bishops" are already insinuating that they are ready to extort money from political candidates!!! The extortion attempts are being disguised as reform drives!!! And they are very good in these!!!

The laws that should be passed must be about uplifting the plight of the ordinary man!!! Landgrabbed lands possessed by the Catholic Church must be returned to the government and distributed to the landless!!! For it is useless for the Vatican Church to continue holding on to the colossal racket of colonial times!!! Lands left idol because of the "Great Religious Recession" undergone by this religion can better be placed in production when given to toiling hands!!!

All Roman Catholics must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

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The Vatican Church may have discovered good sources of funds that will reverse its present "Great Religious Recession"!!! If these so-called 100 political dynasties can be sources of extorted money by the Catholic gangster cliques, chances are that it may indeed help!!!

But the Catholic Church is replete with corruption!!! With so many crocodile bishops who are ready to dip into the treasury of the cult, these money will be gone in a matter of days and again, the Church of Mary will again return to its former self of being totally bankrupt or like a "candle consumed at the base"!!!

All Roman Catholics must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

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If there is a religion which grows banyan trees in belfries of her churches, it is the Roman Catholic Church!!! Lichens, mosses, molds, mildews are eyesores!!! And it is very strange for the "lolong bishops" to see dirts from political dynasties without noticing forest covers in edifices constructed by way of forced labor and standing only because of landgrabbing!!!

Posted below is the history of the Catholic Church's papacy in Europe and other parts of the world!!!This is how an author Peter De Rosa described a Roman Catholic pope, Innocent III:

"In pursuit of his aims, he shed more blood than any other pontiff. He profoundly misunderstood the Gospel, the Church, the papacy, even the distinction between good and evil. His marvelous perversion of all these is evidenced in a single breathtaking statement:'"Every cleric must obey the Pope, even if he commands what is evil; for no one may judge the Pope'."

Reference: De Rosa, Peter. Vicars of Christ: The Dark Side of the Papacy, Page 73. New York: Crown Publishers, Inc., 1988.

All Roman Catholics, Atheists, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Bereans, Baptists, Seventh-day Adventists, members of the American cults, skeptics, and agnostics must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

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These Roman Catholic dynasties, spurious Catholic saints, should be eliminated for they are just plain idol images or scarecrows and do nothing for the human being!!! These Catholic dynasties only result to colossal rackets:

The Computation Of The Colossal Racket

John Paul II made or beatified 184 blesseds:

$20,000 X 184 =$3,680,000

He also made or canonized 112 saints:

$30,000 X 112 =$3,360,000

Money in the Vatican coffer after the "Colossal Racket" by John Paul II was consumated:

Beatification proceeds of $3,680,000 + Canonization proceeds of $3,360,000 = Cash On Hand of $7,040,000.

Paul VI made or beatified 31 blesseds:

$20,000 X 31 =$620,000

He also made or canonized 82 saints:

$30,000 X 82 =$2,460,000

Money in the Vatican coffer after the "Colossal Racket" by Paul VI was consumated:

Beatification proceeds of $620,000 + Canonization proceeds of $2,460,000 = Cash On Hand of $3,080,000.

Overall Profit Of The Colossal Racket in the Holy Roman Catholic Apostolic Church:

Vatican Coffer's Cash On Hand =$7,040,000 +$3,080,000 =$10,120,000

The above computations involve only two Roman Catholic popes and if we also include those who were insane, pregnant, bestial, rapist, murderer, womanizer, homosexual, etc., it would really result to an enormous amount and just coming from this "Colossal Racket" which is the beatification and canonization of alleged saints!!!

Why can't the Roman Catholic Church pay Her electric and heating bills??? Low I.Q. Catholics must explain including those who have studied theology for several years but without understanding their fabrication known as the Holy Trinity!!!

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So by virtue of being a member of another religious belief you now claim to have the absolute knowlege and wisdom about the real truth of the matter on religion and belief? What about the massive rest of mankind? LOL!
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ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
If there is a religion which grows banyan trees in belfries of her churches, it is the Roman Catholic Church!!! Lichens, mosses, molds, mildews are eyesores!!! And it is very strange for the "lolong bishops" to see dirts from political dynasties without noticing forest covers in edifices constructed by way of forced labor and standing only because of landgrabbing!!!
Posted below is the history of the Catholic Church's papacy in Europe and other parts of the world!!!This is how an author Peter De Rosa described a Roman Catholic pope, Innocent III:
"In pursuit of his aims, he shed more blood than any other pontiff. He profoundly misunderstood the Gospel, the Church, the papacy, even the distinction between good and evil. His marvelous perversion of all these is evidenced in a single breathtaking statement:'"Every cleric must obey the Pope, even if he commands what is evil; for no one may judge the Pope'."
Reference: De Rosa, Peter. Vicars of Christ: The Dark Side of the Papacy, Page 73. New York: Crown Publishers, Inc., 1988.
All Roman Catholics, Atheists, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Bereans, Baptists, Seventh-day Adventists, members of the American cults, skeptics, and agnostics must improve their low I.Q.s!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
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Hello Elias Ebarra. Did you not know that your founder Felix Manalo of the Iglesia ni Cristi was a member of thefirst SDA church of the Phil. in Ara. Ana Manila. And that he left the church becuz he was corrupt as a deacon and have illicit affair with a married woman then treasurer of the said church?. If you pretend that you and your church has no blemish same on you, cuz you and your church is a hybrid to the RC in terms of corruption especially during election. Your leaders insinuating that your block voting doctrine is a voice from God, if that is so why God did not forced Adam and Eve not to commit wrong from the very beginning? It is becuz our loving God wants to gave men their freedom of choice and that He will never dictate nor coerse them on this matter as a proof that He is love ,not like your leaders who are corrupt. The truth your leaders is just selling your votes for the highest bidder during election.
I think you must be the one who needs to improve your IQ.
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Sage wrote:
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Hello Elias Ebarra. Did you not know that your founder Felix Manalo of the Iglesia ni Cristi was a member of thefirst SDA church of the Phil. in Ara. Ana Manila. And that he left the church becuz he was corrupt as a deacon and have illicit affair with a married woman then treasurer of the said church?. If you pretend that you and your church has no blemish same on you, cuz you and your church is a hybrid to the RC in terms of corruption especially during election. Your leaders insinuating that your block voting doctrine is a voice from God, if that is so why God did not forced Adam and Eve not to commit wrong from the very beginning? It is becuz our loving God wants to gave men their freedom of choice and that He will never dictate nor coerse them on this matter as a proof that He is love ,not like your leaders who are corrupt. The truth your leaders is just selling your votes for the highest bidder during election.
I think you must be the one who needs to improve your IQ.
Suhingipin,

It is true that Brother Felix Y. Manalo was with the SDA but that was prior to his calling as God's last messenger!!! Also, the SDA was discovered by Brother Felix Y. Manalo as a spurious religion because like the Catholic Church and the Jehovah's Witnesses, the leaders of the Seventh-day Adventists made several predictions on Judgment Days which never came into fruition!!!

All Seventh-day Adventists must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

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ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
The Vatican Church may have discovered good sources of funds that will reverse its present "Great Religious Recession"!!! If these so-called 100 political dynasties can be sources of extorted money by the Catholic gangster cliques, chances are that it may indeed help!!!
But the Catholic Church is replete with corruption!!! With so many crocodile bishops who are ready to dip into the treasury of the cult, these money will be gone in a matter of days and again, the Church of Mary will again return to its former self of being totally bankrupt or like a "candle consumed at the base"!!!
All Roman Catholics must improve their low I.Q.s!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
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The Catholic Church will never be bankrupt. It's corrupt but not bankrupt.
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ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Suhingipin,
It is true that Brother Felix Y. Manalo was with the SDA but that was prior to his calling as God's last messenger!!! Also, the SDA was discovered by Brother Felix Y. Manalo as a spurious religion because like the Catholic Church and the Jehovah's Witnesses, the leaders of the Seventh-day Adventists made several predictions on Judgment Days which never came into fruition!!!
All Seventh-day Adventists must improve their low I.Q.s!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
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Did God or Jesus ever mention that Felix Manalo was God's last messenger? Don't put words in God' s mouth Elias.
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The Roman Catholic Church is by herself harboring dynasties!!! Her spurious Mary has different names from place to place like Virgin of Fatima, Virgin of Obando, Virgin of Laoag, etc.!!! We call this the "dynasty of spurious names"!!!

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ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
The Roman Catholic Church is by herself harboring dynasties!!! Her spurious Mary has different names from place to place like Virgin of Fatima, Virgin of Obando, Virgin of Laoag, etc.!!! We call this the "dynasty of spurious names"!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
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"True follower" of your hallucinations,

you can not understand that simple question of KALEIDOSCOPE (which nobody really expects from you)?
Your twisting and turning, deceiving and lying, your accusing and distracting is embarrassing! It really shows your and your brother´s and sister´s intellectual depth. But aren´t shallow waters your hunting grounds!
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"True follower" of your hallucinations,
you can not understand that simple question of KALEIDOSCOPE (which nobody really expects from you)?
Your twisting and turning, deceiving and lying, your accusing and distracting is embarrassing! It really shows your and your brother´s and sister´s intellectual depth. But aren´t shallow waters your hunting grounds!
Dog Behavior,

You are devoid of understanding!!! I have not answered Kalei yet!!! The last post that I had made was not an answer to Kalei's but was addressed to everyone!!! I had not yet clicked on the reply column regarding his post!!!

Improve your low I.Q.!!!
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KALEIDOSCOPE wrote:
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Did God or Jesus ever mention that Felix Manalo was God's last messenger? Don't put words in God' s mouth Elias.
Kalei,

In every dispensation of time, God appoints messengers to lead His chosen people. Among them are Moses, who was chosen to lead Israel out of Egypt, and our Lord Jesus Christ and His apostles who led His chosen people during the early part of the Christian era. The Church of Christ further believes that among those sent by God as His messenger is Brother Felix Y. Manalo, the messenger of God in these last days. But, how did God appoint him to be His messenger in these last days?

Attested by prophecy

The messenger of God is authorized or testified by God Himself (Is. 8:20). God's testimony refers to the prophecy fulfilled in one whom He sends (Rev. 19:10).

Let us take the case of John the Baptist. His calling was mentioned in the prophecies of the prophet Isaiah. So, when John spoke about his God-geven authority, he quoted the prophecy that pertains to him:

"Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him,“Who are you?”
"He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed,“I am not the Christ.”
"And they asked him,“What then? Are you Elijah?” He said,“I am not.”“Are you the Prophet?” And he answered,“No.”
"Then they said to him,“Who are you, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?”
"He said:“I am ‘The voice of one crying in the wilderness:“Make straight the way of the Lord,”’as the prophet Isaiah said.”(John 1:19-23, New King James Version)

John proved that God sent him by citing the prophecy in the Book of Isaiah, which was written hundreds of years before he was born. Even though his name was't mentioned in the prophecy, the work intended for him, however, was mentioned--he was "The voice of one crying in the wilderness" (Is. 40:3, Ibid.). This prophecy was fulfilled in him.

Post 1 to be continued...

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Post 2...End

The commissioning of God in these last days
The commissioning of Brother Felix Y. Manalo is also attested to by the Holy Scriptures. In fact, Prophet Isaiah, who prophesied about John the Baptist, Apostle Paul, and our Lord Jesus Christ, also prophesied about the messenger of God in these last days:

"Calling a bird of prey from the east, the man eho executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it." (Is. 46:11, Ibid.)

The prophecy speaks of the calling of a "bird of prey" from the east. The "bird of prey" refers to a man who would execute God's counsel from a far country. He could not be mistaken for other messengers because the prophecy specifies which part of the east he would originate--not from the Near East or Middle East where the early messengers of God came from, but from the Far East. The country in which this prophecy was fulfilled is the Philippines, "the country which stands almost at the geographical center of the Far East" (de laHoracio Costa says of the Philippines:

"It cannot be without significance that the country which stands almost at the geographical center of the Far East, the Philippines, should also be that which Christianity has taken the deepest root." [ Dela Costa, Horacio. Asia and the Philippines, p.169] This is where Brother Felix Y. Manalo preached about the Church of Christ, which was registered with the Philippine government concurrent with the outbreak of World War I on July 27, 1914.

The work assigned to the messenger in these last days

God's messengers have particular tasks to perform
which also attest to their God-given authority as true messenger. When Isaiah prophesied about Jesus, John the Baptist, and Apostle Paul, he stated the functions intended for them to fulfill. The work of the messenger of God in these last days was also mentioned in the prophecy of Isaiah--that is, to carry out God's purpose in bringing His righteousness to people:

"Calling a bird of prey from the east, the man eho executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it.
"Listen to Me, you stubborn-hearted, who are far from righteousness: I bring my salvation near, it shall not be far off; My salvation shall not linger. And I will place salvation in Zion, for Israel My glory." (Is. 46:11, 13, NKJV)

God said, I bring My righteousness near," and "My salvation shall not linger." Therefore, the work that God gave His messenger is for man's salvation. Through this messenger who was liked to a bird of prey, God would bring His righteousness--the gospel, which is the power of God for salvation--near to people who are stubborn-hearted and far from righteousness:

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

"For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written,'The just shall live by faith'." (Rom. 1:16-17, Ibid.)
Therefore, preaching the true gospel is the work of this messenger. The messenger in these last days, like a bird of prey, would "snatch" people from damnation and bring them to salvation through preaching the gospel.

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These are the hypocrite religions which killed each other and landgrabbing each other's territoty during the First and Second World Wars:

" ... In the north the Protestants were in control---Lutheran churches in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, the northern and central states of Germany; Calvinists or Reformed churches in Scotland, the Netherlands, Hesse, the Palatinate, and a few of the western German states. In the south the Catholics were in control---Spain, Italy, Austria, Bavaria, and elsewhere in southern Germany."

Reference:[Owen Chadwick, The Reformation, p.366]

"The first great campaign on the southeastern battle grounds of the Great War began on July 27, 1914, when the Austrian troops undertook their first invasion of Serbia ... "

Reference:(Francis J. Reynolds, et. al., The Story of the Great War: History of the European War From Official Sources, vol. 2, p.291).

While Catholics and Protestants were killing each other and landgrabbing, the Iglesia ni Cristo was being proselytized by Brother Felix Y. Manalo in the Philippines as the last work of salvation:

"The Iglesia ni Cristo is significant not only in the Philippines . As one of the largest, most powerful and dynamic independent, indigenous churches in the Third World, the Iglesia ni Cristo demands our careful study.

"What is the story of the Iglesia ni Cristo? Can we discover the reasons for its remarkable growth? Why has it been so successful in propagating its teachings in areas where other churches have grown only with difficulty?

"The date of official registration was July 27, 1914, the day which witnessed the beginning of the First World War."

Reference: Dynamic Religious MOvements, pp. 85, 88)

All Roman Catholics, Atheists, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Bereans, Baptists, Seventh-day Adventists, members of the American cults, skeptics, and agnostics must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

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Christianity as a religion is monotheistic!!! And attempts to circumvent the said belief in the first century was prevented from coming out easily because of the restraining influence of the Apostles!!! However when the Apostles died, slowly but surely the pristine biblical belief was exchanged with the beliefs of multiple Gods!!! Christ and the Holy Spirit as "Gods" were fabricated by the Roman Catholic Church in the Councils of Nicaea and Constantinople:

"Thus, for example, it was not until 325 A.D., at the Council of Nicaea, that the [Catholic} Church defined for us that it was an article of faith that Jesus is truly God."

Reference:(Discourses on the Apostles' Creed, p. 206)

As to how the doctrine that the Holy Spirit is God came about, Catholic author, the Rev. Clement H. Crock, provides this information:

"In 381, at the Council of Constantinople, it was defined that it is an article of faith that the Holy Ghost is God."

Reference:(Crock, Clement H. Discourses on the Apostles' Creed, p. 206. Nihil Obstat: Arthur J. Scanlan, STD. Imprimatur: Patrick Cardinal Hayes. New York: John F. Wagner, Inc., 1938)

What is very apparent in the above references is the fact that there was a clear but long interregnum (elapsed time) from the death of the Apostles up to the councils of Nicaea and Constantinople before the second and third spurious Gods were added to or fabricated by the Catholic Church!!! All of these fabrications took hundreds of years after the death of the Apostles and the completion of the Holy Scriptures and showing that the Christian Church of the first-century (Church of Christ) had nothing to do with the perversions of of the Gospel!!!

All Roman Catholics, Protestants, Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Pagans, Berean Ministry, and other American cults must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

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Feb 13, 2013
 
Elias, God is love. Just preach the words of God, and you'll reach the kingdom of God.
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It looks like that the Roman Catholic bishops in the Philippines is already insinuating for money matters this early of the election year!!! This Vatican Church has a history of being abusive in order to fatten her treasury!!! These beahvior came when Constantine recognized Catholicism in year 313:

"Thenceforward a new phase was initiated. The Church Triumphant began to vest herself with the raiment of the world. The state became her protector. With this came not only power, but also wealth. Accumulation of the latter was no longer regarded solely for the purpose of helping the poor. It became a visible testimony to her newly found status; a necessity which went with her prestige and mounting strength and power.

"Pagan temples were either closed, transformed into Christian shrines or demolished. Their properties were summarily added to the Church's patrimony. The wealth of sundry religions was mercilessly expropriated, their clergy dismissed or persecuted, when not civilly or even physically obliterated. The transfer of political might made an easy transition into acquisitional power, the Roman Catholic Church set in earnest to promote a policy of swift appropriation of real estae, of highly renumerative governmental posts, and even of speculative monetary and commercial enterprises."

Reference: Manhattan, Avro. The Vatican Billions. Chino, California: Chick Publications, 1983. p.21)

All Roman Catholics, Atheists, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Bereans, Baptists, Seventh-day Adventists, members of the American cults, skeptics, and agnostics must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

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Feb 18, 2013
 
What's your choice?

To believe that the head of the true Church (a Roman Catholic claim) could just resign at will...

Too tired to go on, Pope Benedict resigns - CNN.com

Reference: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/11/world/europe/po... day ago ... Pope Benedict XVI said Monday he is resigning, becoming the first leader of the
Catholic church to resign in nearly 600 years.

...or to stand by what our Lord Jesus Christ did for His true Church of Christ?

"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her." (Eph. 5:25, NIV)

Note:

The Roman Catholic Church has announced lately that the Roman Pontiff known as Pope Benedict will resign by February 28 of this year!!! Catholic faithfuls believe that he is the head of the Vatican Church:

"Vicar of Christ:the Pope as visible head of the Church, acting in place of Christ..."

Reference:[Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines. Catechism for Filipino Catholics, p.676]

The action of the Vatican Pope is diametrically opposed to that of the head of the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo), our Lord Jesus Christ!!! For even at the point of death, Christ followed not His will but the will of the Father!!! He gave His life for the Church and purchased Her with His own blood:

"Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood." [Acts 20: 28, Lamsa Translation]

All Roman Catholics, Atheists, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Bereans, Baptists, Seventh-day Adventists, Evangelicals, Charismatics, members of the American cults, skeptics, and agnostics must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

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