Open Season on Cats

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Eagle Beak

Kansas City, MO

#1 Apr 8, 2007
There are over 25 million wild and disease ridden cats in the US. These cats kill native birds and wild life. They spread disease and potentially cause harm to humans. What this nation needs is a cat hunting season to thin the herd. The feds could make money issuing "cat stamps" like duck stamps. Hunting businesses would boom selling the six shot needed for shotgun hunting and 22 long rifle bullets. Farmers could rent their land to cat hunters. Guide dog owners could make money providing the dogs. Taxidermist could make money mounting the cat heads. The nations highway departments would save money not having to scrap up dead cats off the roads. Win win situation for America.
Marksman

Clive, IA

#2 Apr 8, 2007
Shotguns are ok at short range with 00 Buckshot, and slugs work to 100 yards or so. My problem with the 22 is that though it's highly accurate, you usually need 8 to 10 rounds to drop it, stop it from schreeching, then to finally kill it. So, I prefer the 44 Mag, or the new 50 caliber S & W Mag, which does the job with 1 shot from close range all the way out to 100 yards, and with a scope it can stretch to 150 yards.

Since: Mar 07

Pioneer, CA

#3 Apr 9, 2007
Most places that are overrun with feral cats are in areas inhabited by humans. Firing weapons is too dangerous; a round can travel for hundreds of yards, go through walls, and hit people. Even a small caliber bullet can do serious damage. Firing weapons in the woods is also hazardous, as there may be hikers, ect. out there whom you can't see through the trees.
It is much safer to trap the cats with catch and release type traps. This gives one the option of spaying and neutering and releasing back into the colony, or euthenasia if the animal is too ill. Sometimes a housepet will get trapped, in which case it can be held in hopes of reuniting it with the owner.
In the rare cases that I have had to shoot an animal at distance, I have had no problem bringing it down with one shot. If you have to shoot a creature multiple times, it is either a rhinoceros or you need more time at the practice range.
jam

Regina, Canada

#4 May 10, 2007
hello everyone
how are you guys
Marksman

Urbandale, IA

#5 May 11, 2007
Just got back from a big hunt.

Have 3 tiger cats, a dozen black cats, and many mutt cats.

Get more $$$ from tiger cat fur though.
Catsinthecradle

AOL

#6 May 20, 2007
I see the rednecks were out having their fun! always lookin fer sumthin ta shoot at, but mostly they just shoot off thier big mouths.
(But if they open season on rednecks we might save the whole planet!)
amused

Plano, TX

#7 Jun 5, 2007
how about adding dogs to the list. especially the ones in my neighborhood that keep going on my lawn.

there are some asian restaurents around here - wonder that the going rate for dog is.
Eagle Beak wrote:
There are over 25 million wild and disease ridden cats in the US. These cats kill native birds and wild life. They spread disease and potentially cause harm to humans. What this nation needs is a cat hunting season to thin the herd. The feds could make money issuing "cat stamps" like duck stamps. Hunting businesses would boom selling the six shot needed for shotgun hunting and 22 long rifle bullets. Farmers could rent their land to cat hunters. Guide dog owners could make money providing the dogs. Taxidermist could make money mounting the cat heads. The nations highway departments would save money not having to scrap up dead cats off the roads. Win win situation for America.
NightEagle

Seattle, WA

#8 Feb 4, 2013
Ladies and gentlemen, I know I'm late to this discussion but I had to murder Eagle Beak for shooting cats and I have no regrets about what I did. I even made $25,000 from selling his organs and tissues to biomedical supply companies! And if you are planning to follow in his footsteps, IVE GOT A BULLET FOR YOU.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#9 Feb 5, 2013
NightEagle wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen, I know I'm late to this discussion but I had to murder Eagle Beak for shooting cats and I have no regrets about what I did. I even made $25,000 from selling his organs and tissues to biomedical supply companies! And if you are planning to follow in his footsteps, IVE GOT A BULLET FOR YOU.
Good for you!
NoLicenseRequire d

Maywood, IL

#10 Feb 7, 2013
Collared or not, you can legally shoot cats. Every person in the USA already has a license to do so. But don't use a shotgun, the tool of choice in the past. Far too much disease-filled splatter. Dispose of their carcases as hygienically as possible. As I did when ridding my lands of hundreds of their cats.

The law makes it perfectly legal to destroy any animal, someone's pet or not, that is threatening the health, well-being, and safety of yourself, your family, your animals, or even your property. Also true even in most densely populated cities, firearms laws permitting, if not then 700-1200fps air-rifles are commonly used. The only animals exempt from you taking immediate action, legally, are those listed on endangered or threatened species lists, and any bird species under protection of MBTA (the Migratory Bird Treaty Act). Even then variances can be given should there be sufficient problem but this requires further study by authorities. Since cats are listed in the TOP 100 WORST invasive species of the world in the "Global Invasive Species Database", this means they have no protection whatsoever from being shot on sight, they are not on any protected species list anywhere in the world. Quite the opposite.(This is how I cleared out every last one of hundreds of their vermin from my own lands. On the sound advice of the sheriff. Even he found that trying to reason with and warn the cat-lickers did no good. Shooting every last cat finally worked! My lands have been 100% cat-free for 3 years, for less than the price of a couple cups of coffee for the ammo.)

Shoot to maim is punishable under laws for animal-cruelty (these are the ONLY cases that cat-lovers cite to try to manipulate and scare everyone from shooting their only favorite animal). Shoot to kill is a perfectly legal way to humanely destroy an animal. The same laws and principles that apply to methods of humanely hunting animals also applies to cats.(Hint: outfit your rifle with a good scope and laser-sight, inexpensive on ebay. This will ensure a totally humane, instant, and LEGAL kill each and every time. Though use a fatal chest-shot, a head-shot is not always a sure thing.) Unlike cat-lickers' psychotic beliefs, the reality is that their cat is just another animal. It's NOT their baby, their child, their offspring. Even if they do view their cats that way, letting them roam free is no less criminally irresponsible than them telling their child to go play in the freeway and blaming cars for their child's death. If they let their cat roam free, NO MATTER HOW IT DIES, that is THEIR fault and they can be charged with all laws that clearly define animal-neglect, animal-abandonment, and animal-endangerment. And being in direct violation of all international invasive species laws in existence.

Here's a study by the University of Nebraska on the best ways to HUMANELY deal with a feral-cat problem. This documentation INCLUDES the best firearms, ammo, and air-rifles required to HUMANELY destroy cats. deenawinter.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ec178...

Besides, what difference does it make if the cat gets shot or ran over by a car, attacked by another cat or animal, drowned, or poisoned by plants animals or chemicals (inexpensive 1-adult-strength generic acetaminophen pain-relievers gaining in popularity, for being so species specific, far far safer than antifreeze and rat-poisons that cat-lovers have forced everyone else into using lately). The result is the same. The cause is the same -- the fault of the criminally irresponsible pet-owner. They've already proved their animal is 100% expendable. They don't care one bit how their cat might cruelly suffer to death if they let it roam free. Humanely destroy their cat for them before that can happen. A well aimed bullet is the MOST humane death that ANY stray or feral cat can ever look forward to. Any other death that they WILL eventually face is all inhumanely downhill from there.
NoLicenseRequire d

Maywood, IL

#11 Feb 7, 2013
NightEagle wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen, I know I'm late to this discussion but I had to murder Eagle Beak for shooting cats and I have no regrets about what I did. I even made $25,000 from selling his organs and tissues to biomedical supply companies! And if you are planning to follow in his footsteps, IVE GOT A BULLET FOR YOU.
Thanks for proving what we all already knew. That cat-lickers are deeply disturbed sociopaths and psychopaths. They start out with torturing all animals and humans with their cats, then they graduate to murdering humans.

I collect hundreds of death-threats from cat-lickers (as does the FBI when they threatened the lives of Congressman Oda, his family and fellow lawmakers). The fun part is, should any one of your pathetic morons ACCIDENTALLY make good on one of your threats, then you ALL go down. LOL
NoLicenseRequire d

Maywood, IL

#12 Feb 7, 2013
The nice part about the laws in the USA, it doesn't matter how a cat gets onto your own property from criminally-negligent, disrespectful, and insanely irresponsible cat-lovers. Once that cat is there you have every right to deal with that cat in any manner that you see fit.

I found a way to turn my home and land into a 100% fatal cat-trap which I now share with everyone who has been plagued by moron cat-lovers. Using IR surveillance cameras and baiting trails of fish-oils along all the roadsides to a feeding dish within range of my laser-sighted rifle. This can totally clean-out ANY stray cats for miles around. VERY EFFECTIVE if you have an idiot problem-neighbor by you.

You can now get VERY NICE IR surveillance cameras on ebay for only $15 [search ebay with the string: CCTV (IR, infra-red)-- the 48 IR LED ones are best], and $15 rifle laser-sights as well. For only a $30 investment and the drained oils from tuna or sardine tins (or a bottle of fish-oil-fertilizer from your garden center) to make trails on all your roadsides, you can get rid of EVERY LAST ONE OF THEIR CATS in only a couple seasons!

Further Help: These cats are skittish as all get out. Illuminate your yard with red-floods dimmed low on dimmers (they also put out tons of IR illumination). Once you spot one of their vermin cRats on your surveillance monitor, turn off all your indoor lights, and then SLOWLY, VERY SLOWLY, open the door so as not to scare them out of your yard. The dimmed-low outdoor floods also helping to shield your presence from their view and provide enough light to help aim by. Use the laser-sight to aim for a precision chest-shot. To date, I've never wasted even ONE .22 on even hundreds of cats, each and every one did its job. The cats die in under 3 seconds, often less than 1 second, not even enough time to make a sound. This is FAR FAR FAR more humane than the days of terror and torment that even TNR advocates put their cats through (and then the slow INHUMANE "death by attrition" that they spew and embrace). Contrary to popular opinion, do not use a head-shot. I tried that once, it took longer for it to die. Though considering how cat-lickers don't give a damn if ALL other animals (and even humans) or even their own cats die slow inhumane deaths, why should cats deserve a humane death today? They should get back exactly what they give to all other lives, right? Perfectly equitable and justifiable. Though as far as a head-shot being a slower death, I now suspect that cats survive more by their reptilian brain-stem than any unused gray-matter that might be above it (just like cat-lovers do). I also suspect this is the origin of cats' 9-lives myth.

A few more of my tips and methods whereby I managed to get rid of every last one of hundreds of these vermin in only two seasons, can be found (in Reader's Digest form) at www.americanhunter.org/blogs/arkansas-will-tr...

For nighttime the scented trails and IR cams worked best, for daytime the help of learning the predator calls of squirrels was best. They always alerted me to the presence of, and led me directly to some of the most wary cats of all. You must take direct relentless action against stray cats, you can't just wait for them all to show up one day or they just keep coming and coming. It's the only way to stay ahead of their breeding rates and the rates at which cat-lickers keep letting more being born and dumped outdoors.
NoLicenseRequire d

Maywood, IL

#13 Feb 7, 2013
Licensing and laws do nothing to curb the problem. If cats are required to be licensed then cat-lovers just stop putting collars on their cats, as they did by me. And they won't even bother getting them micro-chipped, especially not that They want absolutely nothing that can hold them legally accountable for the actions of their cats. We're not talking about the topmost responsible citizens of the world. They don't want that responsibility of what their cat has done coming back on them. If they had even one iota of a sense of responsibility and respect for all other lives on this planet we wouldn't even be having these discussions.

I found something that DOES work, works well, and works fast (relative to the years it takes trying to educate deceitful and lying cat-lickers that accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING). Where I live cat-lickers have learned that _ALL_ cats, stray and feral, collared or not, ear-tipped or not (because TNR con-artists now just clip cats' ears only, WITHOUT sterilizing or vaccinating them, to protect their hoarded cats from being trapped and euthanized),_ALL_ their cats are shot on sight and buried whenever found away from supervised confinement.

The ONLY thing that works is destroying any of their cats found outdoors off their property. They either learn to stop getting more cats that die under the wheels of cars or from animal attacks, or they finally learn how to be a responsible pet owner, respectful neighbor, and learn to keep their invasive species animal under confined supervision, as it should be. Win win win all around.

You can't train a cat to stay home but I found that, in time, you CAN train a cat-owner into being a responsible pet-owner and a respectable neighbor. Most of them are so phenomenally stupid, disrespectful, and criminally irresponsible though that you have to make at least 12-15 of their cats permanently disappear before they even start to figure out what they've been doing wrong all during their sorry, useless, and pathetic lives.

If you live where its not legal to use firearms then check into 700-1200fps air-rifles and pointed vermin-pellets. Many of the new ones come with their own sound-suppressor designs built-in, specifically designed for shooting vermin cats in urban areas, the demand is that great. Failing that, then there's always the SSS and TDSS Cat Management Programs that are exploding in popularity worldwide. Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up; or Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up. Both methods are legal on every square foot of this earth. No local laws were violated if it never happened.(Where cats have already learned to evade all trapping methods, then inexpensive generic acetaminophen (overseas paracetamol) pain-relievers are a more species-specific vermin poison. But you really need to dispose of that cat safely so that wildlife won't die from the diseases cats spread even after their death.)

I don't see anyone dumping cats where I live anymore. They don't even adopt more than can be kept under lock & key 24/7. When driving through the area I don't see even one cat on anyone's doorsteps anymore. I always keep an eye out to see if there are more free-roaming cats that will have to be shot. And if I'll have to leave fish-oil trails on all the roadsides again, leading right to my IR surveillance system and laser-sighted rifle.

Leaving ANY of their vermin outside in my area means death for their cat. You'd think everyone else could learn from this simple lesson. The quickest way to solve an unwanted animal and irresponsible pet-owner problem is to let them know that you will quickly and humanely destroy every last one of their uncared-for or unsupervised animals for them. They either grow up fast or, far more plausible, dump their vermin elsewhere to become someone else's problem.

You just can't be an enabler of criminally irresponsible spineless and heartless idiots -- or they remain that way.(At least where you live, anyway.)
STINKCAT

UK

#14 Feb 7, 2013
NoLicenseRequired wrote:
Licensing and laws do nothing to curb the problem. If cats are required to be licensed then cat-lovers just stop putting collars on their cats, as they did by me. or unsupervised animals for them. They either grow up fast or, far more plausible, dump their vermin elsewhere to become someone else's problem.
You just can't be an enabler of criminally irresponsible spineless and heartless idiots -- or they remain that way.(At least where you live, anyway.)
Poor sad lonely witless fool you honestly believe people will take your delusional ranting seriously. get a life weirdo..LOL
4TheShowNtellPup pet

Huntington, IN

#15 Feb 7, 2013
STINKCAT wrote:
<quoted text>Poor sad lonely witless fool you honestly believe people will take your delusional ranting seriously. get a life weirdo..LOL
You must not read what you reply to. You are the perfect living-proof of why this statement was included:

"I found something that DOES work, works well, and works fast (relative to the years it takes trying to educate deceitful and lying cat-lickers that accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING)."

You always prove that trying to reason with moron cat-c_nt-sniffers like you is useless and a total waste of everyone's time. It's best to just shoot your outdoor cats with no further warning, no further discussion; rather than wasting one more iota of anyone's resources, money, time, and lives trying to explain it to the terminally useless and perpetually moronic likes of you.

Dance! Show 'N Tell Puppet! Dance!

Show everyone again why trying to reason with cat-c_nt-sniffers like you is a total waste of time. How they'd all clearly be better off to just start shooting cats instead to solve all the problems. The problems that you personally create and inflict on all of humanity and all other life on the planet with your vermin cats. You always manage to show everyone exactly why that is perfectly true.

Dance! Show 'N Tell Puppet! Dance!

Let's have a contest. See how many cats must be shot dead before STINKCAT figures it out that STINKCAT and all others just like STINKCAT are the very reason that cats are being shot to death across the planet.

1,000? 10,000? 1,000,000 shot-dead cats? We have to shoot 150,000,000 in the USA alone just to catch-up to feral-cats' breeding rates this year. How many shot-dead cats will it take before STINKCAT realizes ALL those cats are being shot BECAUSE of STINKCAT! I'm guessing more than 150,000,000 cats must die by gunshot before STINKCAT even begins to figure out why it is happening across the whole planet today.
Darwin Award Researcher

Arlington, TX

#16 Feb 8, 2013
4TheShowNtellPuppet wrote:
We have to shoot 150,000,000 in the USA alone just to catch-up to feral-cats' breeding rates this year.
I'm not near as worried about feral cat breeding rates as I am about the breeding rates of morons like you.

Dance little toothless hillbilly imbecile, dance!
HeyMommasBoy

Maywood, IL

#17 Feb 8, 2013
Darwin Award Researcher wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not near as worried about feral cat breeding rates as I am about the breeding rates of morons like you.
Dance little toothless hillbilly imbecile, dance!
Let's see if this little boy living in its mommy's urban basement knows how to spell "Population Growth Calculus":

Over 2 years ago there were about 150M feral-cats just in the USA, and 86M pet-cats (60M of which are still allowed to roam free and kill all wildlife), this means the population is already oversaturated for a long time. Nobody wants more than 86M cats for pets. There's only 315M people in the USA. 2 cats exist for every 3 people, from infant to infirm senior. Thanks to those who dissuaded everyone from destroying unwanted cats in a more efficient, FAR more-humane, and more cost-effective manner by shooting them. While they also promoted their slow, random-chance, inefficient, and failed trapping programs. Ecosystem destroying TNR people claim trap and kill is also a failure, and they'd be right. The problem has always been the trapping, slowing things down far below cats' breeding-rates.

Let's see what that cat population of 210 million stray cats has become. We shall also underestimate GREATLY by reducing breeding rates to only 2X's per year, rather than the 3-4X's per year that they normally do. And, to make it even more interesting, let's make the survival rate of all offspring and all adults less than 50% per year.

Start with 105000000 mother cat(s), 105000000 males,
Average of 2.0 litters per year for each female..
Average of 5.0 kittens per litter,
50 percent female kittens,
with 45 percent of adults surviving each year,
and 45 percent of kittens surviving,
Number of years: 2

Year 1: adult population = 210000000: 105000000 moms, 105000000 toms,
105000000 mom cats having 210000000 litters
1050000000 kittens, 525000000 male, 525000000 female
surviving adults = 94500000: 47250000 females, 47250000 toms,
surviving kittens = 472500000: 236250000 females, 236250000 males
212625000 young females have 212625000 litters, 1063125000 kittens, 531562500 male, 531562500 female,
+478406250 surviving kittens: 239203125 female, 239203125 male
moms = 522703125; 47250000 + 236250000 + 239203125
toms = 522703125; 47250000 + 236250000 + 239203125
1277718750 deaths

Year 2: adult population = 1045406250: 522703125 moms, 522703125 toms,
522703125 mom cats having 1045406250 litters
5227031250 kittens, 2613515625 male, 2613515625 female
surviving adults = 470432812: 235216406 females, 235216406 toms,
surviving kittens = 2352164062: 1176082031 females, 1176082031 males
1058473828 young females have 1058473828 litters, 5292369140 kittens, 2646184570 male, 2646184570 female,
+2381566112 surviving kittens: 1190783056 female, 1190783056 male
moms = 2602081493; 235216406 + 1176082031 + 1190783056
toms = 2602081493; 235216406 + 1176082031 + 1190783056
6360643654 deaths

Ending population = 5,204,162,986: 2,602,081,493 moms, 2,602,081,493 toms
Total deaths: 7,638,362,404

That means that this year there will be a VAST UNDERESTIMATE of ONLY 5,204,162,986 breeding stray cats.

5+ BILLION UNWANTED CATS. And that's a very safe VAST UNDERESTIMATE.

With the human USA population being 315 million, and only about 128 million able to carry a gun (excluding all underage, infirm, or felons), EACH PERSON able to carry a gun would have to shoot 40.6 cats THIS YEAR just to catch-up to cats' breeding rates this year. Next year being exponentially worse. If you don't shoot and safely dispose of your quota of cats this year, then hope like hell that your gun-totin' "little toothless hillbilly imbecile" neighbor will shoot your REQUIRED quota of cats for you because you are too much of a bambi-cartoon-educated momma's-boy.

I'd suggest you go take more classes than how to excel at being an online moron and an attention-deficit, attention-starved twitter-head.
HeyMommasBoy

Maywood, IL

#18 Feb 8, 2013
Keep in mind, that's how many cats that EACH gun-owner would have to shoot this year alone JUST TO CATCH UP TO CATS' BREEDING RATES. 40.6 cats PER PERSON.

You would have to shoot and safely dispose of MORE THAN 40.6 cats EACH this year to start to reverse their breeding rates to eventually eliminate the problem caused by morons like you.
STINKCAT

UK

#19 Feb 8, 2013
4TheShowNtellPuppet wrote:
<quoted text>
Show everyone again why trying to reason with cat-c_nt-sniffers like you is a total waste of time. How they'd all clearly be better off to just start shooting cats instead to solve all the problems. The problems that you personally create and inflict on all of humanity and all other life on the planet with your vermin cats. You always manage to show everyone exactly why that is perfectly true.
Dance! Show 'N Tell Puppet! Dance!
Let's have a contest. See how many cats must be shot dead before STINKCAT figures it out that STINKCAT and all others just like STINKCAT are the very reason that cats are being shot to death across the planet.
LOL! Disturbed thoughts and obsessive behavior is not a natural part of the aging process, You should just accept that you have mental problems and seek help.

4TheShowNtellPup pet

Maywood, IL

#20 Feb 8, 2013
STINKCAT wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! Disturbed thoughts and obsessive behavior is not a natural part of the aging process, You should just accept that you have mental problems and seek help.
Dance! Show 'N Tell Puppet! Dance!

Let's have a contest. See how many cats must be shot dead before STINKCAT figures it out that STINKCAT and all others just like STINKCAT are the very reason that cats are being shot to death across the planet.

1,000? 10,000? 1,000,000 shot-dead cats? We have to shoot 150,000,000 in the USA alone just to catch-up to feral-cats' breeding rates this year. How many shot-dead cats will it take before STINKCAT realizes ALL those cats are being shot BECAUSE of STINKCAT! I'm guessing more than 150,000,000 cats must die by gunshot before STINKCAT even begins to figure out why it is happening across the whole planet today.

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