cat momma

Mckinney, TX

#513 Feb 25, 2013
Love my cats wrote:
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What about spaying and neutering?? How about when boy child is circumcised?
That is not even comparable!

One op has medical benefits and is done for the animals health and well being, the other is done for for the owners convenience.

Male circumcision is the parents choice.... Can you imaging if parents started having their kids fingers removed by choice, for no reason? Don't think that would be considered humane! Do you?
Turbojacket

Conyers, GA

#514 Feb 26, 2013
To bring a post back from the dead. I had my cat laser declawed. The vet said it is not cutting off their toes. It simply killed the bed of the nail. He didn't show a single sign of pain, was completely himself, and he even scratched everything like crazy and his eyes would roll back in his head. You could tell it still felt amazing to him. The old way I would never ever ever agree with. A life of getting sprayed by water and clapped at and run off is no fun for the cat either for just doing something nature intended.

If you dont want to ever declaw I would recommend a tall scratching post. Usually cedar wrapped with tough twine. They can be trained to use only that as a scratching spot. But if you want a cat, seriously THINK about it. They are creatures and they have urges. The right vet with the right technology will keep your little fur friend pain free and treated humanely! Think about all the times you will NEVER have to scold it or yell out at it because it is scratching you leather sofa. You will have to ability to just let it be.

My little guy would always bring home moles and any bug in the house was dead meat with him around. It is very important for your cat's psychological well-being to hunt and kill small game.

My cat seemed perfectly happy without claws in the front. He was overly loved and cherished his entire life and that is the most important part of having any pet!
Nookie Monster

Renton, WA

#515 Feb 26, 2013
FatFreddysCat wrote:
Nichole,
You can dress up mutilation with anesthesia, sterile procedure, pain management, ect, but it is still mutilation. Wire cutters paint a more graphic picture.
The next time you use your finger tips think of how nice it is to have those sensitive little digits.
Isn't spaying and neutering mutilation too??
cat momma

Mckinney, TX

#516 Feb 27, 2013
Nookie Monster wrote:
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Isn't spaying and neutering mutilation too??
NO! It benefits the animal and stops population explosions!
There are more than enough unwanted animals already!
And I am sick of people having pets they do not fix and then the poor thing gets out and ends up pregnant!
I have paid for way too many animals to be fixed this year due to people not being bothered to have their animals fixed, then they get loose and turn up pregnant, then they dump them!
But other intentionally don't fix animals, so they can just make money from their litters
2unique

Omaha, NE

#517 Feb 28, 2013
Cat Lover wrote:
Anyone who declaws a cat is a senseless, thoughtless, selfish, sadistic, monster who is living in the dark ages... you do not deserve to blessed with the love and presence that a cat brings to a home.
You are so full of crap! I had my cat declawed as a kitten and he is just fine. He's the most loving cat. He is still playful and rambunctious as he was before. I actually have 3 cats . The other two are not declawed but the girl is getting ready to be because she does tear up furniture. My other one only scratches on wood and has his own scratcher he uses. So as far as declawing goes I say go for it. If it means keeping the cat vs. dropping it off at a shelter were it will sit in a tiny cage until adopted or put down I SAY GO FOR IT!!!
cat lover 2

Mesa, AZ

#518 Mar 7, 2013
Cat Lover wrote:
Anyone who declaws a cat is a senseless, thoughtless, selfish, sadistic, monster who is living in the dark ages... you do not deserve to blessed with the love and presence that a cat brings to a home.
Shut the f up, you're stupid. Keep your opinions to yourself. Those are some very powerful words, if you want to get through to someone, try being nice and respectful! Treat others how you want to be treated.
westportboy

Kansas City, MO

#519 Mar 19, 2013
Cat Lover wrote:
Anyone who declaws a cat is a senseless, thoughtless, selfish, sadistic, monster who is living in the dark ages... you do not deserve to blessed with the love and presence that a cat brings to a home.
okay well you go tell that to my patients who are on blood thinner because of recently acquired health conditions. They are not monsters and all the other things you have said... they are just trying to make decisions the best they can so they don't have to get rid of their cats. I mean let's get practical here. Would you rather that cat be abandoned your put down or got taken to an over crowded shelter to maybe hopefully be adopted.
westportboy

Kansas City, MO

#520 Mar 19, 2013
Catsinthecradle wrote:
Tut tut is right.
Mothers don't circumsize ther babies because they are stupid, lazy morons...they do it for the sake of the kid...DUHHH
I'm a nurse and circumcision is first of considered a cosmetic procedure and not medically necessary. So yes they mothers are being stupid, lazy morons as you put it because they don't want to take the time to properly care for their son's foreskin.
Jessica

Cartersville, GA

#521 Mar 20, 2013
FatFreddysCat wrote:
Nichole,
You can dress up mutilation with anesthesia, sterile procedure, pain management, ect, but it is still mutilation. Wire cutters paint a more graphic picture.
The next time you use your finger tips think of how nice it is to have those sensitive little digits.
So what's the difference in getting our sons circumcised? We are snipping off a part of them.... Actually with no medicine or putting them to sleep... 24 hours alive and snip snip??? Just a thought
cat momma

Addison, TX

#522 Mar 20, 2013
Circumcision is not common place in other countries and is normally only done for religious purposes. This is the first country I have loved in where it is done as a normal procedure. Not that I think it is a good or bad choice, but I still do not think it is anywhere comparable to declawing.
cat momma

Addison, TX

#523 Mar 20, 2013
Oops! Lived in!:)
Cindy

Toronto, Canada

#524 Mar 22, 2013
Honestly someone shopping on a public forum for the opinions of others is looking for one thing and one thing only....encouragement....they have already made up their mind they are just getting the support of strangers to back up their own decision because they feel insecure about it. Nothing you say or don't say is going to change what they are going to do.
crazy4kities

Apopka, FL

#525 Apr 21, 2013
kittylove wrote:
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Hello, so glad to find this conversation about delawing or not. Many years ago, I had my cats declawed (I think, over the years, three), and they were fine, but the talk about the pain bothered me. I haven't had my cats declawed for the last 25 or so years. I have two little guys, going on 2 years old, and they just won't give up on the furniture even though I have scratching posts, climbing perches, Feliway and give them tons of attention. They are into everything and this means inside the covers on the furniture. Of course, they are indoor kitties, and I'm tempted -- and don't want to be. My other two kitties are good with the scratching posts.
I am exactly in your situation. Have an appt. to have my 2 cats declawed because they just wont leave my sofa and chair alone. I am now back and forth to the old method vs declawing or not at all.
cat momma

Addison, TX

#526 Apr 22, 2013
There was a previous comment on here about a lady that put a log on her house and her cats actually used it, have a look at that and maybe give that a shot, before you decide!:) anything is worth a shot, right?
Marmalade

Taylor, TX

#527 Apr 23, 2013
cat momma wrote:
There was a previous comment on here about a lady that put a log on her house and her cats actually used it, have a look at that and maybe give that a shot, before you decide!:) anything is worth a shot, right?
Yes, cat momma, that comment came from a friend of mine here in Central Texas. It is post #502 on page 25 using the moniker "A Clue for You All." I've been using the technique myself, and it works! You may need to use 2 or 3 fire logs inside, if you have a larger house.

Here's the direct link to the post:
http://www.topix.com/forum/pets/cats/T4IKRSS8...

BTW, "A Clue for You All" is a guy. Real men love cats!
cat momma

Mckinney, TX

#528 Apr 24, 2013
Marmalade wrote:
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Yes, cat momma, that comment came from a friend of mine here in Central Texas. It is post #502 on page 25 using the moniker "A Clue for You All." I've been using the technique myself, and it works! You may need to use 2 or 3 fire logs inside, if you have a larger house.
Here's the direct link to the post:
http://www.topix.com/forum/pets/cats/T4IKRSS8...
BTW, "A Clue for You All" is a guy. Real men love cats!
Oops! Sorry! And you are totally right! Real men DO love cats!:) Great idea though! Glad it was shared!:)
Erin

San Clemente, CA

#529 Apr 28, 2013
Difficult topic. Over the years, my indoor cats have been declawed due to ruining furniture and rugs but they've all led pampered lives of sleeping on every bed, couch and chair in the house--which they would've been banned from. Our cats have always been sweet, loving and happy. Why does no one get upset about the fact that female cat owners are expected to have the ovaries and uterus removed?! That is serious, painful surgery that forever affects the cat in a major way.
cat momma

Mckinney, TX

#530 Apr 28, 2013
Erin wrote:
Difficult topic. Over the years, my indoor cats have been declawed due to ruining furniture and rugs but they've all led pampered lives of sleeping on every bed, couch and chair in the house--which they would've been banned from. Our cats have always been sweet, loving and happy. Why does no one get upset about the fact that female cat owners are expected to have the ovaries and uterus removed?! That is serious, painful surgery that forever affects the cat in a major way.


Because spaying and neutering cats is a responible thing to do that GREATLY benefits the health and life of your cats, not to mention trying to curb the over population of animals!

It does not forever affect you animal in a negative and painful way, which can be the case with declawing! Not to mention, it is done for the sake of you animals..... Not your couch!
Rachael

United States

#531 Apr 29, 2013
To those that say it's very painful for a long time, how do you know? Cats do well to hide pain and unless they talk to you...
kittyhint

Geneseo, NY

#532 Apr 29, 2013
It does cost more to spay a female cat, but it is worth it. I have a lovely little girl (runt) born to a feral mother that I adopted. Actually, she adopted me. I am a little short on money, so I have had to put up with a few of her "cycles". It doesn't hurt her, just my ears. She can yowl louder than any human baby. Getting her spayed will settle her down and help prevent some health problems for her in the future. So as soon as I can afford it, she is my top priority. She is a living thing, and more important than anything else. I love her, so if I have to eat bologna for a month to save enough money for her, I will.

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