Laser Declawing...Better?

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e-cats

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#493
Dec 14, 2012
 
I've always preferred a declawed cat, but have never had it done to one. Instead I've always adopted cats from shelters that were already declawed. And they have always seemed just fine. Of course, they are indoor cats but I have never seen any specific odd or bad behavior that could be attributed to the declawing. Nor has any vet ever seen anything worrisome. Cats don't fully understand what has happened (so it seems) and the way their fur grows, you don't see the surgery the way you would on a human. So I don't think comparisons with a human are valid. Of course, there is the discomfort issue. I would definitely recommend doing it at a good hospital (no rush jobs where the cat comes home still bandaged) and the laser-declawing looks like something to consider. This is a subject I'm a bit torn on. With so many cats stuck in shelters, if declawing also meant saving a cat from being put down and getting a good home, is it such a terrible choice? It seems like a trade-off.
Rain

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#494
Dec 21, 2012
 
adam wrote:
Okay, cats get tired of scratch posts and other toys, they then turn to furniture. Would you rather buy new furniture all the time because of them clawing at it, or declaw them? I got all four of my cats declawed and NONE of them have changed. They still are playful, and this sensitivity on their paws is a load, because I mess with their paws and they don't take off or try to bite me. Catsinthecradle must be an animal activist. We are not turning our cats into clubfoots. Are you like this when it comes to the Chinese and binding feet?
Women died from foot-binding. Died. It has been banned. There is a reason for that. Is there something wrong with being an activist against people who are abusing creatures or people weaker than themselves. You must have been a bully.
Rain

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#495
Dec 21, 2012
 
I am against anything that causes pain to an animal or child. I looked up this topic to hear the arguments about laser declawing because I like to do my research. I didn't learn a thing from this site, other than the fact that a lot of people care more about their furniture than their pets. Why do people have pets if they like their furniture more?

I don't believe in circumcising little boys either. I think it's mutilation done for the convenience of the parents. I don't think parents should poke holes in their 2-year-old's ears either. That should be the choice of your child, not you. People do not OWN animals or children. We share our lives with them. If you're not willing to make room in your life for them, don't have them. There are far too many animals in shelters and kids being abused in the first place.

If you don't care enough about animals to not cause them large amounts of pain, then don't have them in your home.
Rain

Niagara-on-the-lake, Canada

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#496
Dec 21, 2012
 
For those who still think declawing is okay, take a look at the Wikipedia entry on it. Pay particular attention to the pictures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declawing

You might also keep in mind that a lot of vets are refusing to do it now. Do you wonder why?
cat momma

Mckinney, TX

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#497
Dec 22, 2012
 
Thank you for posting that link! Hopefully this will make it clearer for people about declaring! I had never even heard of it before I came to the USA to live due to my job! I would never have any of my babies subjected to this sort of thing and the one cat I have that is declawed, was dumped on me due to behavioural problems! So sounds like most vets do not even follow the guidelines of their own professional body then, since they suggest declawing is only done as a last resort, not a routine procedure!
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#498
Jan 7, 2013
 
When you think about all the sweet little kitties that must be put down each year due to having no one to love them, is it really that big of a deal that a people who may not otherwise take in a cat choose to declaw them? Really? Death or claws? If you are truly an animal lover this would not be such a debate and if it is, go visit your local animal control facility and ask them how many purrfectly good animals they put down each year!
ohstopitsilly

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#499
Jan 30, 2013
 
We have 2 cats declawed and they are fine, it was done at a young age, both are just as silly and lovable. They have a great home and are loved. Which was a better option of the box under a porch when we found them. Heck the are ok without a few claws.
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#500
Jan 30, 2013
 
Vkat2 wrote:
When you think about all the sweet little kitties that must be put down each year due to having no one to love them, is it really that big of a deal that a people who may not otherwise take in a cat choose to declaw them? Really? Death or claws? If you are truly an animal lover this would not be such a debate and if it is, go visit your local animal control facility and ask them how many purrfectly good animals they put down each year!
agree 100%
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#501
Feb 1, 2013
 
Catsinthecradle wrote:
Adam, NO, cats do NOT tire of scratch posts and other toys.
HOWEVER...would you buy a 6 year old child a 2 year old toy? For the same reason if you have a 15 lb. cat you MUST provide a TREE, you know, a non-tippable one, a sturdy tall tree, 4ft. or better high-with sisal and/or berber carpet, not that fluffy crap they push in the petshops.
I have 7 indoor cats, all clawed, my furniture, unfortunately is now almost as old as my oldest CLAWED cat- over 20...not a scratch on any of it- wish to hell they would so I would have a good reason to buy new...but, um, I do understand cats, so I got cat trees long before I thought of getting my first cat.
DUHHH- an animal activist...Pu-LEASE. Do you have to be an activist to have the brains to know it's CRUEL to amputate cats' toes? 23 other countries BAN it..are THEY all activists? Too bad some people would rather pad a vets' pocketbook than learn about caring for their own pet properly...
So I own two cats and I did research before buying...I have a huge nice sisal scratching cat tree, I've used soft paws caps (which can be battle to put on and then he forgets how to play gentle with humans when it comes off) I've used the two sided tape on my furniture and have extra cardboard scratching posts laying around... He's behaved fairly well for a year and has decided the furniture is fair game for scratching recently
I am at the end of my rope trying to figure out how to stop him besides declawing. He is very smart and seems to do it for either attention because he's bored or because he's hungry. I do not free feed my cats because I refuse to let them become obese and have health problems associated with that.
My other cat does not scratch any of the furniture
So please tell me what else I can do?
A Clue for You All

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Feb 1, 2013
 

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Lastresprt wrote:
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So I own two cats and I did research before buying...I have a huge nice sisal scratching cat tree, I've used soft paws caps (which can be battle to put on and then he forgets how to play gentle with humans when it comes off) I've used the two sided tape on my furniture and have extra cardboard scratching posts laying around... He's behaved fairly well for a year and has decided the furniture is fair game for scratching recently
I am at the end of my rope trying to figure out how to stop him besides declawing. He is very smart and seems to do it for either attention because he's bored or because he's hungry. I do not free feed my cats because I refuse to let them become obese and have health problems associated with that.
My other cat does not scratch any of the furniture
So please tell me what else I can do?
After observing the scratching patterns of my lovely kitty, I suddenly had a "light bulb" moment which has been successfully implemented for 3+ years now.

I noticed that she scratched in one place for several weeks, then suddenly changed to a new place. She did this with three or four places, eventually rotating back around to the first place she was scratching when I started observing.

Then it hit me! She was returning to spots only when her scent at a spot was gone.

As an experiment, I brought in an unsplit fire log about 15 to 18 inches long. She used it exclusively for several weeks. When she started to "get bored" with it by scratching elsewhere, I rotated it out with a second log. She immediately started using it exclusively, too! I took the first one back outside to get "re-seasoned" until she gets bored with the second one.

I have now been rotating these same two logs out now for over three years and she scratches nowhere else. My kitty's claws remain intact to this day, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Sometimes, humans just have to thinks like cats.

If you would like to meet my kitty, here's her YT channel...
http://www.youtube.com/user/CranberryTabby/vi...
helen

Philadelphia, PA

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#503
Feb 3, 2013
 
i also debated getting my girls declawed after seeing my other cat go trough life without claws. my girls destroyed my furniture and they have all kinds of scratching posts. I decided to look into the laser surgery. I had the laser surgery done. when I had to take my kitten to emergency after suffering with 107 fever, the doctor asked me if she was declawed, I said yes, she was totally amazed that my cats paws did not look it. I do notice though my one cat does bit alot on my wood. their paws look like they were never touched. they do not cut they laser the nails. good luck
cat momma

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#504
Feb 3, 2013
 
From what I read, laser declawing is still removing the last none I'm the toe, but instead ofusing another method to disarticulate the bone, the use the laser. Less bloody, supposed to heal quicker, bit otherwise all the same risks of biting, going to the toilet in places other than the litter tray, arthritis, tendon issues, pain etc. The do not just kill off the claws from growing - it is still an amputation, unless something new has come out very recently
cat momma

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#505
Feb 3, 2013
 
Oops! I meant bone in the toe!:)
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#506
Feb 5, 2013
 
crazy2catz wrote:
I have declawed my cats but I don't think I'd do it again. I've noticed their paws are more sensitive and after what I've read and heard...it doesn't sound like it's good for the animal.
So you think it is better to bring cats to shelter where there neglected and put to sleep opposed to keeping them healthy and happy althought not the best option and painful, if done cosmetically and correctly maybe not the most non painful option is this better than death?
cat momma

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#507
Feb 5, 2013
 
Why don't people try to train there cats FIRST! Most declawed cats were done when they were very young as a preventative, as their owner did not want to spend the effort of trying to provide their cats with something to scratch on or teach them what to do! Of course there are some cats that are stubborn, but not nearly as many as some people would like us to think!
If people do not want to risk their furniture, adopt a declawed cat!
And make sure the cats are fixed so more cats do NOT end up having to have people choose between death, behaviour that leads to them being put down (if people could not spend time to train them where to scratch they are not going to spend time cleaning up after a cat the won't use the litter tray) or possible pain for the rest of their life!
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Feb 18, 2013
 

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Put to sleep or declaw... hmmmm? These are my choices... DECLAW. She is a cat, not a human, and she is not responsible for any aspect of her well being. I happily feed her and look after her in every way. If I were causing her distress and cutting my fingers would help I would gladly make the appointment for my surgery. Fortunately I am was trained at an early age not to tear up furniture and slice up priceless persian carpets. Thanks mom!
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Feb 22, 2013
 

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I've been wanting to declaw my cat pretty much since the day I rescued him. Living little guy, but can rip off the kitty caps within 2 days of us applying them. It's not so much the rugs or other destruction, but the fact that he CONSTANTLY wants to be held (one of the reasons I live him!)...and when he spooks his scratches the hell out of me. Once he was within centimeters of my eye. Now that I have a daughter, it's time. And just a few words for those who write insulting posts to us about what we choose to do with our pets- it doesn't make me change my mind. But if u feel the need to vent, go for it.
Lgal

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#510
Feb 22, 2013
 
Stupid autocorrect. Live should be love.
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Feb 22, 2013
 

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Kitty do fine,de-clawing is alright,really doesnt matter to me
Love my cats

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Feb 25, 2013
 

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FatFreddysCat wrote:
Nichole,
You can dress up mutilation with anesthesia, sterile procedure, pain management, ect, but it is still mutilation. Wire cutters paint a more graphic picture.
The next time you use your finger tips think of how nice it is to have those sensitive little digits.
What about spaying and neutering?? How about when boy child is circumcised?

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