Laser Declawing...Better?

Haslet, TX

#473 Jul 28, 2012
Obviously, you also weren't worried about sounding like an insulting tiarant during your ranting. Using insults to get your point across is not effective. I do live in TX, by the way, and was doing research into declawing before considering the procedure for my kitten. Now, prior to reading your post I have already decided to clip his front paws and see if that works, as well as purchasing soft paws. However, I would certainly not place judgement on others for their decisions. If I were to use regional profiling, I would assume that being from California would predispose you to a number of beliefs that I personally find to be horrific. But, since I don't personally know you and am not familiar with your beliefs, then I won't assume that you fall into the stereotypical California mold.
Catsinthecradle wrote:
Lets get some facts straight, folks!
#1-YES cats do need their claws- ALL OF THEM!( I can't BELIEVE that 20 whole countries ban declaw and there still exist people in the 21st century that pay vets to turn their cats into clubfoots and think it's OK
#2-SMART people learn about a pet before getting one, um, like cats were designed to scratcha nd climb, DUHHHH- get them a CAT TREE- a nice TALL sturdy one- get it BEFORE you get the cat, then maybe they won't eeen WANT to use your furniture!!!
#3- if you don't notice any difference in your cat after declaw you aren't observing, or you never knew the poor thing to begin with (give me a break!)
#4-I can't believe that people who go around abusing and ruining an entire planet can't figure out why cats need their fingers, uh, I mean claws.super DUHHH
#4 You from Texas- well, California always was a little bit ahead of the redneck states a s far as education is concerned. Try educating yourself before you mutilate another cat, OK?
#5 all you dark-Age declaw nutsos ought to get a stuffed toy instead of a real animal, they're moer your speed...
*am I worried about insulting anyone? absolutely NOT-if they're still declaing cats they deserve it. Let's just say I'm saying it for their cats...

Merrick, NY

#474 Aug 9, 2012
Please don't do this to your cat they need their claws would you like someone to cut the tip of your fingers off

Merrick, NY

#475 Aug 9, 2012
If you really love your cat do what I do buy some scratching post and place it around the house especially where they sleep. I have very expensive furniture and my cats do sleep on them and don't really scratch but if they do I just move them away. I love my cats more than my furniture.

Savage, MN

#476 Aug 13, 2012
FatFreddysCat wrote:
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Be absolutely certain your now helpless cat will never get outside. He wont be able to climb a tree, or fight off an attacker.
I am in the no-declawing camp. My approach has been to place numerous scratching posts in my house and protect items that are tempting with covers. I would rather have a tattered couch than a tattered defenceless pet. Cats have been in my life for almost 60 years, and they have all had claws. I teach them as babies to be gentle so they don't hurt people.
Comparing male circumcision to declawing is a weak analogy. A man does benefit from the procedure, but he does not need his foreskin for self defence in battle, or to flee from attack.
Your cat should never be put in the situation that it should have to battle or flee from an attack! One of the worst most harmful situations you can put a cat in is too let them roam free outside...FAR, FAR worse than is life threatening the other is not.

Huntington Beach, CA

#477 Aug 20, 2012
Cat Lover wrote:
Anyone who declaws a cat is a senseless, thoughtless, selfish, sadistic, monster who is living in the dark ages... you do not deserve to blessed with the love and presence that a cat brings to a home.
Screw you. You're a sadistic piece of trash. Bend over and shove your rude comment up yours

Summerland, Canada

#478 Aug 20, 2012
PrideandPrejudice wrote:
My family has been debating whether or not we should get our cat declawed. The humanity of declawing a cat is apparently quite controversial, but as we don't want to give away our beloved pet since she is a rabid and notorious furniture destroyer and absolutely won't let me trim her claws, we've seriously considered declawing her.
The traditional method of declawing, from what I know, causes a cat quite a bit of pain, has a long healing period, and will hinder a cat's mobility for a while. Our vet recommends laser declawing, which is less purportedly less painful. I'm still hesistant because laser or not, declawing a cat is still akin to slicing off the tip of my own fingers and most of all, I'm worried that declawing my cat will permanently change the rambunctious playful personality that I love about her.
I'd appreciate some advice from cat owners and esp those who have had their own cats declawed. Thanks!
My cat won't let me clip her claws either. So I weighed her and went to a compounding pharmacy and had then put in liquid Graval in a fish base and as I couldn't get her to take the medicine, I just put it on her front legs and watch for her to lick it off wait 15 minutes and she is noce and sleepy and I can do the clipping. This fast acting and short lasting
dog_people_for_c ats

Overland Park, KS

#479 Aug 22, 2012
What I don't understand is why forcibly sterilizing animals is perfectly fine even though it is extremely painful, robs them of certain joys in life and changes their personality. That is what spaying and neutering does. People argue that declawing is different, but it isn't. Cat people are crazy in this way. My indoor only cat was declawed (front only) and the very night she came home, she caught a mouse, pranced in the room and showed it off. She has never bit anyone and her personality didn't change at all. She's also never missed the box. Both sterilizing and declawing is done for the benefit of humans, not the animals. You can argue that unsterilized cats mean more on the street to die, but not allowing declawing does the same thing because people get tired of have scratches all over and furniture accidentally destroyed. Remember, we humans made cats pets, before that it was survival of the fittest. Every cat in a good home is a life saved. Cats and dogs are considered more because we deem them to be so. We give them value. I don't hear people crying over dead crows, opossums, and squirrels.
Moral of the story, if you are going to get rid of your cat otherwise, declaw the cat. I promise, it isn't anything worse that the many organs they remove from us.

New York, NY

#480 Sep 11, 2012
I agree with Adam. I had a cat that liked to play rough, which meant we got scratched even when he didn't mean it. He wouldn't use a scratching post and became very destructive our carpets. We agonized about declawing him, but he came through it with absolutely no change in his personality at all. He was NOT wobbly, his paws didn't hurt him, and as we were able to play with him the way he wanted to be played with. It made living with him a pleasure.

I also find it ironic that people don't hesitate to spay female cats, even if they will never go out and have no chance of becoming pregnant. Spaying is MAJOR SURGERY and the healing process takes longer than for declawing. There is nothing humane about it. If people were honest with themselves, they would admit that the only reason they do it is because female cats in heat are hard to live with.

New York, NY

#481 Sep 11, 2012
You said it much better than I did.

United States

#482 Sep 30, 2012
Try Soft Paws, I have them on our cat & they have been great!! I check her nails every day & when one falls off, I trim her nail and replace it. Couldn't think of declawing her, although cats I had in my younger days were.
Judy Jo

Manhattan, IL

#483 Oct 16, 2012
Iris wrote:
Cat Lover, there's no need for name-calling. Declawing is controversial, but you're not going to win anybody over by insulting them. In fact, the way some people bully anybody who's even considering declawing is one of the main things that's turned me off the anti-declawing movement.
I totally agree with this.. you have the right to your opinion. but calling people who have a different opinion than you is Bullying for sure..
We are taking our Cat to get laser declawed tomorrow will keep you posted... Would love to keep him away from my furniture but we both work.. is fine when we are home but what is happening when we are gone.. scratching posting isnt working. I have 4 different kinds. Also use cat nip on 2 of them thinking that might help.. NOPE.....
cat momma

Mckinney, TX

#484 Oct 17, 2012
I am very disturbed to hear people are against spaying and neutering cats and dogs and comparing it with declawing!
Neutering and spaying animals is for their benefit, it has many health benefits, even if your pet will, hopefully, never get out!
I presume that the 2 pregnant female cats I have taken in this year were also owned by owners that did not think their cats would ever get out as well.
Trying to rehome 12 cats is a tall order, especially as I want to ensure they go to suitable homes where they will not get declawed. But there is no way I could over burden shelters further by dropping off the cats to them to take care of, in whatever way they can, if they can!
Coming from a country where declawing is illegal, bit no-one would actually know it, since you would never ask for it to be done in the first place, it has been a real eye open about how people do not see it as a big deal to do this to their pets, and are quite keen to mention that they only have the front claws amputated, and not the back ones, as if that makes it alright! There are no medical benefits to cats from being declawed, if you are very lucky all goes ok and it is more 'convenient' for the owner, or you could end up with a cat that has behavioural problems due to being in pain, gets early arthritis or a multitude of other issues. Having an animal 'fixed' has many benefits for them, medically and behaviourally. I wonder how many people would enjoy living with an intact male cat? Even if they do not spray their pee stinks, they are so unhappy not being able to roam and bred, as in their wild nature. I have always had my animals fixed, not least to do the responsible thong and not have them breeding all the time as there are so many unwanted cats already! I had never had female cats until these 2 strays turned up earlier this year! I swear I am just going to start sending my pay check directly to the low cost spay and neuter clinic from now on, as it is still expensive when you have 12 cats to spay/neuter and get shots for before rehoming them! I have found that a lot of friends used to have their cats declawed, and they did not even realise what the operation entailed! Should vets not be explaining this and don't owners ask before they have it done? Thankfully, they looked in to it more and have now stopped declawing and. i have helped them to get their clawed cats to use scratching posts very easily, it normally only takes the willingness to work with, and understand your cats. Of course, you get the occasional hard nut!:) Another friend of mine prefers to have declawed cats, so when she adopts a cat she makes sure it is already declawed, if only more people would adopt cats that have already been declawed it could save a lot of shelter cat lives, and discomfort of the other cats people get and decide to declaw, mainly coz they want a little kitten etc! My male cats have never has an issue healing from being neutered, normally running round playing the same night, while I am panicked as they should be not running round so Mich etc. 4 of the female cats healed so quickly I was surprised, like completely healed within less than a week! The 5th one took longer as one of my cats, that got dumped on me after a friend had him declawed, on the front only, and developed major behavioural problems, decided to attack her, and ripped her stitches out! But even then, with a keeping an eye on the wound, she was healed up very quickly really! Now the declawed cat had it done as a kitten and is now around 5 years old, and you still can not touch his paws and he is a pretty bad biter, but he is getting a bit better gradually. It does not help that he had also been mistreated by the friend's son though!
I just think that people need to research the reality of what the op to declaw entails and spend a bit of time and effort training there cats to use a scratching post, I swear it works really easily about 90% of the time or more!
cat momma

Mckinney, TX

#485 Oct 17, 2012
So glad the kitty was OK! I nearly had to have one claw removed from my old cat die to hom keeping on ripping it out a few times and getting infections, on the end he was OK luckily, bit o heard of someone else that had to have back claws removedfor medical reasons too, mist be more common of an issue than I thought! If it is gonna benefit them medically, as in this case, then it is the kindest thong to do for them so they do not contine to hurt themselves
kittyhint wrote:
I have to chime in on this discussion. My parent's cat was severely injured when he escaped the house one night. Long story short, the cat survived, but the healing process has been VERY long, hampered by the cat "itching" the healing wounds back open, causing infections. Finally the vet decided that all he could do is declaw her rear paws. She just had it done yesterday (laser method). I am very against declawing, but in this case it was done to try to save the cat's life. The vet said it was getting too dangerous to keep having to put her under anesthesia and stitch her up so often. He recommended the rear declaw as a last resort. Today the vet called and said she is doing fine so far. I hope it was the right decision.
cat momma

Mckinney, TX

#486 Oct 17, 2012
Wow my spelling got awful! Must be too tired and not good at typing on this phone! Sorry folks!:)

Milford, MI

#487 Oct 19, 2012
REDMOON wrote:
<quoted text> Why would you let your cat outside after you had it declawed - that is just dumb! I would only consider this if I were going to keep my cat inside forever at that point. Didn't you think that if a dog got a hold of your cat - it would be mangled to death - that is horrible!
I've had a few cats with front declaws and have had no problem outside. We live next to state property. We currently have a stray that lives outside that has adopted us. He is front declawed and neutered. We have him up to date on shots and are trying to find him a home. Meanwhile we have a shelter for him. He catches mice all the time. I'm more concerned with the diseases that mice carry such as lyme, worms, and other parasites. I think outdoor cats many times die sooner because of the diseases they are exposed to. However, I don't think it is living for a cat to be cooped up. I'd rather have freedom and explore than die in a nursing home. Cats were made to smell and explore and my declawed cats had no problem outside.

Platte City, MO

#488 Nov 8, 2012
I volunteer for an animal rescue organization that does not approve adoption applications from families planning to declaw the cat in question. I understand their reasoning, but in my opinion, the issue is way more complicated than simply a matter of mutilation or not.
Frankly, there are more homeless and feral cats than can ever be saved in our country. Any human being willing to help by providing a safe and loving home to a homeless animal should be encouraged to do so, in my opinion, even if that means declawing said animal.
Besides... am I to understand that declawing is mutilation but spaying and neutering are not?? If we can make the decision to spay/neuter and not feel guilt about it - it's for the greater good, we say - then I think we can declaw with a little less guilt there as well. After all, the end result is a happy kitty in a happy home.
Instead of treating this as an either/or, black-and-white issue, I believe individuals should make their decisions based on what is right for each individual cat and the family he or she is placed with.
I myself have five cats, two declawed and three with their claws. Unfortunately, I am on the brink of determining that one of my clawed cats will have to join the ranks of the declawed. Why? Because she is extremely aggressive with my other cats, to the point of endangering them with her claws. Declawing is my final solution in a long list of solutions that I have already tried. Of course, I could just give her up, but how is that a solution? I've seen the rescue organization animals languish in cages for years, waiting for the perfect home. My home may not be perfect for her (given that she'd probably be better off in a home with no other animals), but at the moment, it's the only one she's got, and if I have to declaw her to keep her from becoming homeless, that's what I'll end up doing.
Again, I think we have to keep our eyes on the bigger picture -- if a cat needs a home, and the home available requires he/she be declawed, isn't it in the best interests of the cat to declaw him or her?
cat momma

Mckinney, TX

#489 Nov 9, 2012
Is no one in the animal rescue able to advise you on these behavioural issues and things you can try to stop or lessen the aggression? Declawing does not stop the aggression, and can make it far worse, as you are way more likely to have a more serious injury if your other animal starts biting its kitty siblings. More nasty bacteria in the mouth than claws! Recently had to take care of a large abscess that was caused by my declawed cat biting another one very deeply in the back leg while we were away for a day or so, she then hid until we got home, so the person looking after then did not notice the wound! Nasty!:(
I do now think I will have to rehome one of my babies as one of the stray a cats is showing stress by being round so many other cats, and she shows her stress as aggression, her claws are pretty short and dull, as she loves her cardboard scratcher, but is starting to drop weight again and is starting to look so thin now! We will try reintroducing her to the other cats again, which worked with the other momma cat, but otherwise I have no choice than to actively look for a great, forever home for her. In the meantime, anyone got good ideas on how to put weight on her and get her back in better condition? She is not a big eater anyway, and the last resort would be to get some a/d hills prescription food for her - but none of my animals have liked it that much in the past so ended up having to donate it to a local shelter: I know it is off topic, but if anyone has any good ideas, please let me know. Thanks!

Raleigh, NC

#490 Nov 29, 2012
I just had to read this post, since I'm considering declawing my cats, rather than sending them to the Humane Society...which was never an option. I, like the other person mentioned earlier, cannot find a home for my two male cats that are about seven years old.

Both are very docile but quite playful cats. They have scratched up my furniture, woodwork, and other things. Yes, they have had trees with rope, etc.

We're building a brand new home, so now we have to find an alternative to having them killed.

I probably could go for nail caps, but sounds like I would have to pay a vet every three months or so to put on plastic.

Interestingly enough, I'm one of those people that has lost a digit you all talk about, and I don't have any pain. I also want to know who has talked to their cat, and their cat told them they were in pain? Really?

I also watched a group of military men on TV last night that talked about their experiences during the Korean War, all of whom had lost limbs and digits due to subfreezing weather (-40). None of those surviving men discussed the misery or pain from lost limbs or digits, even though I am sure it decreased their quality of life by losing a leg or all of their fingers.

There are many things that are inhumane in life, but ask the war vets if they would have rather been in their buddy's shoes...dead? They all seemed to have a zest for life, and many cannot defend themselves when they go outside.

I just wanted to share the irony of both sides here.

Lewistown, OH

#491 Dec 1, 2012
Cat Lover wrote:
Anyone who declaws a cat is a senseless, thoughtless, selfish, sadistic, monster who is living in the dark ages... you do not deserve to blessed with the love and presence that a cat brings to a home.
HOW DARE YOU COME ACROSS AS YOU DO! It's your choice if you choose to let your cat destroy your home as well as scratch your family members! That doesn't mean those of us who choose to declaw our furry friends!

Huntington Beach, CA

#492 Dec 12, 2012
Circumcision is weak comparison because a man does not need his foreskin? I beg to differ. At least a solid 20% of a mans pleasure is derived from the nervous tissue in the foreskin and protection from pants / jeans exposure as well as natural oils. Basically you're robbing him of a substantial part of his sexual pleasure and protection.

Say what you will but I think it's an excellent comparison. In fact you're not robbing a cat of any defense whatsoever if you don't let your cats out, which most people who declaw their cats do not do.

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