Laser Declawing...Better?
AshleyAndSaphira

Thousand Oaks, CA

#372 Mar 12, 2011
I have to move to tennessee in a few months for senior yr in high school, i have a cot i love, but they will only let me take her if she gets declawed. help??
Steven

Oklahoma City, OK

#373 Mar 13, 2011
For anyone who says declawing a cat is inhumane, I say look at the cats dead on the street everyday. Least my 2 cats get to enjoy a good in-house&backyard life where they are safe. Both my cats acted completely normal within 2 days of being declawed, and have not had any issues since. It really isnt the worst thing in the world, and i dont feel guilty about it in the least.
cajuncatlover

Lithia Springs, GA

#374 Mar 28, 2011
just got married and I have 2 well trained adult cats. hubby has one former feral cat who is not well trained. His cat is 5 yrs female. she pees and poops all over house when cranky and now ruining furniture with clawing. she especially likes to wake me out of deep sleep by clawing our bed or new fabric chair near bed. I have tried buying different scratching posts, trimming her claws(she hates that!)and she insists on bed mattresses and vertical areas of fabric chairs in all the rooms to claw. the other cats like her ok and they all get along so I suspect it is territorial cat thing and attention getting on her part. we are now considering laser declaw. btw, my boy cat was declawed as a kitten 12 yrs ago and he is very well adjusted and healthy. tmy girl cat is not declawed as she doesn't claw furniture or people and we trim her claws without problems. she loves showing off on scratching posts for me.
LisaB

Newton, KS

#375 Mar 29, 2011
I was hoping to get info here on the laser declaw. I've been disappointed with the vitriolic name calling.

That being said, I have two kittens each six months old. We are currently using Soft Paws. That is working well with one, but the other got four of his off within two days (all were applied by good, experienced vet). I continue to train them not to scratch. My vet said I should know by nine months old if they will learn to curtail the behavior. She also is doing research into the laser procedure as she does not actually do it. Should it come to declawing, I am confident she will find the right person to do it.

I've previously had one cat who was declawed when I got her, and one who was not declawed but I wished to high heaven she was. The scratched furniture I can live with, but the constant flesh wounds and torn window screens is where I draw the line.

All my cats have been "rescue" cats. I am fine with whatever decision I make. I was just hoping to find useful and factual info here.
the dude

Noblesville, IN

#376 Mar 30, 2011
Catsinthecradle is spending all of her time writing on message boards and being mean to people because she has 10 cats and probably hasn't gotten laid in quite a while so let's give her a break. You'd think for someone who calls people "unintelligent hillbillies", they'd get the spelling of "vinyl" right. Vinyl not VYNLE
SFCatGuy

San Francisco, CA

#377 Apr 12, 2011
I found two baby kittens after their mom was run over by a car. They destroyed furniture, curtains, carpet, and me! I live in San Francisco where everyone flipped out about me getting them declawed. They called me 'inhumane' and 'cruel.' Yet no one offered to take the kittens off my hands and let their homes and faces get scratched up. The truth is, they were fine afterwards - almost within 12 hours they were running around and playing like nothing had happened. This was many years ago. One passed away last year from a kidney failure and the other is turning 18 this year. They are/were happy, productive, fun-loving animals who have been a blessing and joy to have. However, for us to co-exist in my apartment, something had to give. I tried the sprays, the posts the tape and the techniques. But after losing $2500 in furniture - I opted to declaw them. It was the BEST decision I ever made. I loved them enough to spend the money for the procedure. They still scratch and sharpen their claws - but there is no damage. It was either that - or I was going to take them to the SPCA.
perriann

San Marcos, TX

#378 Apr 20, 2011
I don't know if I would cut the toes off my cats even if their claws somehow caused my house to burn down! Why have cats if you want to change them into something else and possibly create issues for the rest of their lives? If you love your furniture more than your cats' livelihood, why not have a room devoted to them when you aren't around? Why not get a pet that is less destructive? Chinchillas are soft, bunnies, are cuddly, and fish don't shed!

Cats do not show it when they are in pain (for the most part). That doesn't mean that they aren't in pain, but that they are genetically hard-wired to hide it. Your declawed cats might be very sensitive and never show it. Some do, however. I have worked in vet clinics and have seen first hand what the procedure is like. Many cats come out of it without any obvious signs of discomfort, but some do not. Some are in pain for the rest of their lives. Some walk funny, some won't let their paws be touched, some lick and chew on them until they're bloody. Some are forever mentally changed.

I know you all think it's not a big deal, but think about getting your toes chopped off by a doctor and how sensitive they would be. Cats can't walk on their tails, so consider the pain they have to quietly endure by having the toes on the feet they use to support their entire body weight taken away from them. Is it really worth the risk? Even if your cat never shows any signs of being in pain, it may be! Are you willing to take that risk for furniture? You can buy more furniture, but if your cat is permanently damaged from the procedure, you cannot have the toes put back on.
perriann

San Marcos, TX

#379 Apr 20, 2011
And why the heck is taking a cat to the SPCA even an option???? Cats have claws. If you don't like them, don't gamble with their lives! Look for a different pet if their physical attributes and behaviors don't fit your lifestyle. How selfish are we that we purposely mutilate our pets so that their natural, healthy habits can't damage our perfect homes? How sickening! This is exactly the reason why there are so many animals in shelters! People are not willing or able to consider their needs, or believe they are disposable as soon as they are an inconvenience. I really wish some of you could spend the day at the shelters I volunteer and see what horrible things these animals endure. Some cats that come in are already declawed, but unfortunately even that wasn't good enough for whoever owned them!
Mitch

United States

#380 Apr 22, 2011
I plan on getting my cat laser declawed. For all those people who call it extremely inhumane, it really is not as bad as one may think. If the vet has to be experienced and everything will turn out fine. Having a cats claws is not worth the possibily of going blind in one eye or thousands of dollars in furniture being ripped to shreds. Just remember to give the cat a lot of care and attention after the procedure and he/she will forgive you in no time. Just award your kitty with lots of treats for being so brave during the surgery Having the cat declawed will save you money and/or injury and save the cat from being returned to the pure hell of shelter life. Times are changing and declawing is being
perfected so INDOOR cats and people can live in perfect harmony. It is time to be more open minded.
perriann

United States

#381 Apr 24, 2011
Mitch wrote:
I plan on getting my cat laser declawed. For all those people who call it extremely inhumane, it really is not as bad as one may think. If the vet has to be experienced and everything will turn out fine. Having a cats claws is not worth the possibily of going blind in one eye or thousands of dollars in furniture being ripped to shreds. Just remember to give the cat a lot of care and attention after the procedure and he/she will forgive you in no time. Just award your kitty with lots of treats for being so brave during the surgery Having the cat declawed will save you money and/or injury and save the cat from being returned to the pure hell of shelter life. Times are changing and declawing is being
perfected so INDOOR cats and people can live in perfect harmony. It is time to be more open minded.
It's not having the cat declawed that saves the cat from being returned to shelters. It's having an owner that is not so flippant that scratched furniture equals taking it to the shelter instead of understanding the responsibility and drawbacks of caring for an animal.

I work as a volunteer at shelters, and have worked for vets also. I have seen before and after cats having the procedure done, and it is not all wonderful. I have also seen and heard of many, many declawed cats ending up being given up and euthanized also, for reasons as trivial as not matching the furniture, having too much fur, and meowing. If you don't like cats having claws, why have cats? If my dog's tail-wagging was constantly breaking things in my home, I certainly wouldn't have a vet cut it off for me! I would dog-proof my house, or stick with goldfish otherwise.

Remember, they are animals, and they do not understand things like we do. I know it's hard for some to believe, but I have seen the effects, and some of the more sensitive cats come out of it forever changed. I have seen them become extremely vicious/paranoid, I have seen them spend their lives in hiding afterward, some walk funny, some lick and chew the remainder of their paws and get infected, the list goes on and on.

Many cats seem fine, also. However, keep in mind that cats are not likely to let you know that they are in pain. They prefer to keep their pains hidden to avoid being found as easy prey. You may not know that your cat has been silently suffering for years. I see this a lot too with cats coming in seriously ill, but their owners didn't know until it was too late because the cats didn't give any signs of distress.

I hope there are those that read these messages and really think about the animals. Sure, furniture is nice to have, and when it's expensive we don't want it to get messed up, but there are other things that can be done that don't involve removing an animal's toes. I have at least two cats in my house all the time (I foster occasionally, so there are sometimes more than that), and my furniture is fine. My cats have their claws, but they also have a room just for them with everything they need and a huge cat tree to climb and scratch. They stay there when we are not at home, and when we are asleep. They like their room, and they rarely ever scratch the couch. When they start, a firm "no" is all it takes for them to stop.

If more people were willing to make a few minor adjustments to the way they handle things like this, there would be no need for such a barbaric practice.
betterkitty

Tuscaloosa, AL

#382 Apr 27, 2011
I think it is a personal choice. All of the passionate anti-declaw people sound like nuts. Beyond the fact that the "pain" is short-lived and managed, it comes down to an issue of livability. Sorry, but unlike my children, I dont love my pets unconditionally. I need to be able to live peacefully with the animals that have adopted me! I currently live in alabama where they don't understand cat population management and the shelter is literally overflowing with unwanted cats. I have lived here 4 years and without trying I have had 4 cats show up at my door in the rain!!!!. I feel comfortable having them declawed (and kept inside) so they can stay in my house and not end up being euthinized in a shelter. to all the anti-declawers out there, would you rather I sent my cats away and risk having them traumatized and then killed, or do you think it would be okay to declaw them and live comfortably and happily in a forever home with my family??????
Anon

Secunderabad, India

#383 May 12, 2011
tonsilitis upon diagnosis and if prevalent most months of the year, solution tonsilectomy,

acute appendicitis, appendectomy to save the person from rupture related traumatic death.

circumcision just to please the elders in the family as their religion dictates, then it is a demonic practice.

such demonic and trauma inducing customs and traditions must be denounced and banned.

only when there is a medical necessity, must the surgeon feel that it is the solution...then only.

female circumcision = paedophilia.

stop religious circumcision in the name of the Creator , who has made thou whole and perfect.

Don't mess with the God's creation.
amberxrenee

Carlisle, PA

#384 May 13, 2011
I wanted to write this experience down for other people to read because I think it's useful to hear personal experiences. I'm not looking for anyone's opinion, I just want people to take a minute and read this whole story before they make a decision.

I got my beautiful, loving cat Zissou declawed three days ago, and I regret it terribly.

Here's what happened. I live in an apartment complex and they recently made it mandatory that all cats be declawed. My cat didn't have a problem with clawing anything- he never has, so I scheduled a meeting at the office where I was told that it would be too hard to regulate which cats in the complex did and did not have problems. A paper from a vet saying the cat was permanently declawed was easy to photocopy and file. I contemplated it, and had a long discussion with my vet where I was assured that the laser declaw was much better and newer technology than the traditional method that I was so hesitant about.

This is where I made my biggest mistake. I work in a grooming salon, and I know from this experience that when dogs injure their nail bed, the nail usually doesn't grow back. So I very wrongfully assumed that the laser would destroy my cats nail bed and barely touch anything else. I thought his pain would be equal to the tenderness of a quicked toenail. A lot of the guilt I feel comes from not doing better research before I made this decision, based on that one assumption.

Nothing went wrong during the surgery, but when I was researching how to care for him once he came home, I came across all of the information against declawing. I immediately panicked, but realized quickly that both sides were using intentionally misleading statistics, quotes, and claims. Everyone had an agenda with 20 million sources each to back up their claims, and I read through every one of them. Both sides had some that seemed bogus and some that seemed legitimate. That's not my point.

The point of this story is that once I saw how sore he was I immediately regretted my decision. I wince every time he walks because I can tell how badly it hurts him. I wish I would have found him a good home and dealt with our seperation instead of putting him through this. His operation went as successful as it could possibly go and I still regret it. Even if his health doesn't ever suffer from it, these two days of unnecessary pain I've put him through are breaking my heart. I feel tremendously guilty every second because I was dumb enough to believe that the laser was somehow less invasive. I'm not here to change anyone's mind or to judge anyone for a decision, but I urge you to consider how YOU will feel about your actions in addition to how it makes your kitty feel.
cat lover

Winter Garden, FL

#385 May 13, 2011
Cat Lover wrote:
Anyone who declaws a cat is a senseless, thoughtless, selfish, sadistic, monster who is living in the dark ages... you do not deserve to blessed with the love and presence that a cat brings to a home.
Anyone who would remove the testicles from a cat (or any other animal) is a senseless, thoughtless, selfish, sadistic, monster who is living in the dark ages ---
If you don't think so then volunteer to have yours removed.
Kuehnau

Neenah, WI

#386 May 15, 2011
Pam wrote:
Parents circumcise their male babies, don't they? I am sure that babies feel pain too but don't we do it because it's healthier? I feel that when you declaw your cat it's because you are commited to them for the rest of the life, they will live indoors with you till death and everyone is happier and the cat will heal in a few days and it's all forgotten...with claws destruction goes on and on and so does the anger when the cat continues to destroy...I have had cats all my life..some with claws and the last 20 years my cats have been declawed and I can truly say that it was the best thing I did...they came home and within that day or 2 they were fine and happy, jumping around, playing, and they lived happily till 18 years old...I highly recommend declawing if you are taking them into your heart and home for life...
Actually circumcision is now being largely debated these days. General health care and cleanliness will actually be just as good as having a baby circumcised.

As a matter of fact circumcision could lead to loss of feeling in reproductive organs or even mutation of the baby's genitals if done improperly.

Anyone who is against declawing should be against circumcision 110%!
Carole

Kalamazoo, MI

#387 May 24, 2011
I have a cat that I decided to not get declawed. I really wish I would have done so but I was not going to have her first knuckle ripped out. I'm bot against anyone who had had that done to their cat--all of my parents cats were declawed that way. My personal preference is to not go that route if there is another method available.

We have a scratching post for the cat and those nail caps buy still, she does after the furniture! I have a hand-me-down chair from my parents in my apartment that is about 15 years old. 15 years with out a mark on it until my cat :( I've tried everything to get her to stop! She goes after if when we are home, home an asleep. I've tried closing her up in the bathroom at night but she scream meows! It's terrible!

After hearing that there is a new method for declawing that is similar to us cutting our fingernails--or getting an outrageous manicure, I'm thinking more and more about getting it done to save my furniture!

You can try to make a cat stop being naughty but some are just as defiant as a bad teenager. If you want to keep your furry friend and not spend hundreds on furniture and have it look like you are trash, then I say get kitties declawed.

I'd go with the lazor since it's less invasive. If you are in the same boat as me--tried everything bought all the expensive kitty things to prevent against ruined furniture but your cat refuses to use them, then just do it.

Cats are great but just like some kids, they can be naughty through punishment. You need to handle the situation accordingly so you do loose your mind--private school-declawing, military school-declawing. do what you feel is right. Don't let negative people try to change your mind. It's your cat!

“Women (and cats) of WoW unite!”

Since: Jul 07

San Diego, but now: The Woods

#388 May 25, 2011
My cat was scratching on my bedroom door molding. It had been scratched up before we even moved into the house. I know he was marking it as his. I decided to try redirection and bought a pressed cardboard scratcher that I sat next to it. It came with potent catnip that made it attractive to him.

It took a while, but every time he started to scratch on the molding I encouraged him to use the cardboard instead. I would drag a ribbon across it, gently put his feet on it, drag my fingers on it, etc. and praise him when he finally started using it.

After several months he is completely switched over. He likes to scratch first thing in the morning and I often put my foot on it to give it more stability while he shreds it. The occasional debris these scratchers generate vacuums right up and they are very cheap and environmentally safe.

If your cat is scratching somewhere they shouldn't, give redirection a try. It worked for me.

Better a declawed cat than a homeless one, though, and laser declawing is much safer than the traditional method.

By the way, look at my pictures to see the built-in cat "tree" that my husband made on a small section of our kitchen wall. It's great because it doesn't take up any floor space.
justdance93

Brentwood, TN

#389 May 26, 2011
I have one cat (3 years old), and I had him declawed when he was about 6 months old. The apartment complex I lived in would not allow me to have the cat in my apartment without a veterinarian signature and proof that the cat was declawed. In fact, I have now lived in 3 different complexes, and ALL of the apartments I have lived in require the cats to be declawed.

For my cat, the laser declaw went fine (I only had the front paws done), and he was walking around on his feet as soon as we got home from the operation. When I first adopted my cat, I was working as an assistant at a cat clinic, and the veterinarian there used laser declawing. I was able to observe her (and help her) declaw my cat when I adopted him, so I saw exactly how she did it. She was a great veterinarian and knew exactly what she was doing - the procedure was done in less than 15 minutes. There was no bleeding, and it looked like she only took the nail portion off - not even all the way to the first knuckle. I was impressed, and my cat did not exhibit any signs of pain (in fact, he is the most spoiled, loved, and happiest cat I have ever seen).

Now I am debating adopting another male cat (who is also 3), but I don't know if that is too old to declaw and if it will change his personality. I don't want to bring a new cat into a home where one cat is already declawed, and if issues arise then my declawed cat can't (or won't know how since he's an indoor-only cat) to defend himself. If I was still living in the area where I used to work at the cat clinic, then I would have that veterinarian do it again. It's definitely something I am debating, and it is keeping me from adopting this cat until I make the decision since I don't want to rush into any decisions.

For everyone who is debating declawing their cats, I would say the laser declaw is better than the old-fashioned scalpel declaw. Research your veterinarians, find vets with experience and training, and ask them to discuss the procedure with you in detail. Be educated and knowledgable when it comes to advocating for your pet. It is ultimately your choice since it is your cat. Good luck to everyone!
Sphynx owner

Arlington, TX

#390 May 31, 2011
I can't believe how crazy people get about declawing. Do these people spay and neuter their cats? A cat was born to reproduce, but we take that away don't we? At least the responsible pet owners do. The cat suffers for a couple of days from being fixed and then they're back to normal, but don't most of us have this procedure performed??
If the cat destroys your house or scratches you, then cut the darn claws off! Do you think a 3 legged cat is miserable? NO, but sometimes it happens. Cats are such outgoing creatures and they're not going to let life pass them by. They're going to do the best with what they have - claws or not. These idiots that get so worked up over declawing must think their cats think like humans. The cat won't remember they even had claws once they get used to life without them.
Storm

Holcomb, MS

#391 Jun 20, 2011
Catsinthecradle wrote:
Lets get some facts straight, folks!
#1-YES cats do need their claws- ALL OF THEM!( I can't BELIEVE that 20 whole countries ban declaw and there still exist people in the 21st century that pay vets to turn their cats into clubfoots and think it's OK
#2-SMART people learn about a pet before getting one, um, like cats were designed to scratcha nd climb, DUHHHH- get them a CAT TREE- a nice TALL sturdy one- get it BEFORE you get the cat, then maybe they won't eeen WANT to use your furniture!!!
#3- if you don't notice any difference in your cat after declaw you aren't observing, or you never knew the poor thing to begin with (give me a break!)
#4-I can't believe that people who go around abusing and ruining an entire planet can't figure out why cats need their fingers, uh, I mean claws.super DUHHH
#4 You from Texas- well, California always was a little bit ahead of the redneck states a s far as education is concerned. Try educating yourself before you mutilate another cat, OK?
#5 all you dark-Age declaw nutsos ought to get a stuffed toy instead of a real animal, they're moer your speed...
*am I worried about insulting anyone? absolutely NOT-if they're still declaing cats they deserve it. Let's just say I'm saying it for their cats...
Catsinthecradle, wow it must suck to be you, knowing that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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