Vet says pets are what they eat

Vet says pets are what they eat

There are 20 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Apr 16, 2007, titled Vet says pets are what they eat. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

Exotic animal veterinarian Gary Riggs, who has been with the Akron Zoo for 20 years, daily ministers to the aches and pains of living creatures with scales, talons, beaks, paws, hooves, fins, humps, shells and ...

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Pete

Dayton, OH

#1 Apr 16, 2007
This i had figured. I have had cats for 19 years. I have an 18 year old cat now, and one 12 and others and there health has rarley been a problem, becuase I feed them dry food....I always figured there was something wrong with the wet types.

But we should all read the book Natural Cures and you find out about all the poisins us people eat everyday..
Class of 68

United States

#2 Apr 16, 2007
Pete - I've had several cats live into their 20s. My oldest is currently 23 and can still jump up on the bed. I have always fed both wet and dry food. As long as you are feeding a quality diet, I have seen no problems with canned/wet food.
Linus

United States

#3 Apr 16, 2007
Truly, an article worth commenting on.
Sheila

Tulsa, OK

#4 Apr 16, 2007
I have two cats. Both were stray and I took them in. They eat wet and dry food. Both are healthy and happy. One is six the other is three. They have taken to each other like mother and baby.
Pat

United States

#5 Apr 16, 2007
The article didn't say there was anything wrong with feeding wet food Pete. I feed mine both and have some pretty healthy cats. The thing is, you need to feed them the decent stuff; not that grocery store garbage that's mostly corn filler. There is virtually no regulation in the pet food industry and that has GOT to change.

And Dr. Riggs is a fantastic vet. He's the one I haved used for my animals since he first started.
Pat

United States

#6 Apr 16, 2007
Yes, Linus. It truly is a worthwhile article. If you're not interested, why did you even bother reading it or putting in your comment? If this kind of thing isn't your cup of tea, don't read it. I personally think sports articles are a waste of good print. But I know that many people don't think so. To each his own.
Sheila

Tulsa, OK

#8 Apr 16, 2007
Pete wrote:
This i had figured. I have had cats for 19 years. I have an 18 year old cat now, and one 12 and others and there health has rarley been a problem, becuase I feed them dry food....I always figured there was something wrong with the wet types.
But we should all read the book Natural Cures and you find out about all the poisins us people eat everyday..
Pete, you need to go lie down and take a rest. Don't tell me you believe in global warming too?
stephanie

Louisville, OH

#9 Apr 16, 2007
Dr. Riggs saved my bunny's life. I would highly recommend his practice for exotic animal owners.
Pat

United States

#10 Apr 17, 2007
I don't agree with Pete either, Sheila, but your comment made no sense either. Read the book Foods Pets Die For by Ann Martin. It is a FACT that the pet food industry has virtually no regulation in this country and the manufacturers can put any garbage they choose to in our pet foods and many do. What that has to do with global warming is beyond me. Educate yourself before speaking please.
Terry Singeltary

United States

#11 Apr 17, 2007
Article Posted: 04/15/2007 9:16:48 PM
Human and Animal Food Poisoning with Mad Cow a Slow Death
an editorial by Terry S. Singeltary Sr.
HUMAN AND ANIMAL FOOD POISONING WITH MAD COW DISEASEs A SLOW DEATH
WITH all the pet food deaths mounting from tainted pet food, all the suffering not only the animals are going through, but there owners as well, why are owners of these precious animals not crying about the mad cow tainted animal carcasses they poison there animals with everyday, and have been for decades, why not an uproar about that? well, let me tell you why, they don't drop dead immediately, it's a slow death, they simply call it FELINE and or CANINE ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE, DEMENTIA OR MAD CAT/DOG DISEASE i.e. FSE and they refuse to document CSE i.e.Canine Spongiform Encephalopathy, but it's there and there is some strange pathological findings on that topic that was convientantly swept under the rug. Sadly, this happens everyday with humans, once again confidently swept under the rug as Alzheimer's and or dementia i.e. fast Alzheimer's. Who wants to spend money on an autopsy on an old dog or cat? Sadly, it's the same with humans, you get old and demented your either die or your family puts you in an old folks home and forgets about you, then you die, and again, no autopsy in most cases. Imagine 4.5 annually with Alzheimer's, with and estimated 20+ million dieing a slow death by 2050, and in reality it will most likely be much higher than that now that the blood supply has been infiltrated with the TSE agent, and we now know that blood is another route and source for this hideous disease. It's hell getting old now a days.
NOW, for the ones that don't believe me, well mad cow has been in the USA for decades undetected officially, but the late Richard Marsh documented way back, again, swept under the rug. Then in 2003 in December, the first case of BSE was finally documented, by accident. Then you had the next two cases that were documented in Texas and Alabama, but it took an act of Congress, literally, to get those finally documented, and when they were finally documented, they were atypical BSE or Bovine Amyloid Spongiform Encephalopathy (BASE), which when transmitted to humans is not vCJD or nvCJD, but SPORADIC CJD. Now you might ask yourself what about that mad cow feed ban of August 4, 1997, the year my mother died from the Heidenhain Variant of Creutzfeldt Jakob Disease (confirmed), well that ruminant to ruminant was merely a regulation on paper that nobody enforced. Just last month there was 10+ PLUS MILLION POUNDS OF BANNED BLOOD TAINTED MBM DISPERSED INTO COMMERCE, and there is no way the FDA will ever recover it. It will be fed out again. 2006 was a banner year for FDA mad cow protein fed out into commerce. Looks like 2007 will be also.
Our federal Government has failed us at every corner when it comes to food safety. maybe your dog, your cat, your mom, your dad, your aunt, or your uncle, but again, who cares, there old and demented, just put them down, or put them away. It's hell getting old....END
http://www.swnebr.net/newspaper/cgi-bin/artic...
FELINE AND CANINE ALZHEIMER'S OR MAD CAT/DOG DISEASE AND PET FOOD ...
http://www.kxmb.com/getForumPost.asp...
http://www.kxnet.com/getForumPost.asp...
TSS
Pat Too

United States

#12 Apr 17, 2007
Wow Terry. You sound like a raving lunatic. Maybe you have Mad Cow Disease.
Terry Singeltary

United States

#13 Apr 26, 2007
not yet anyway, mom did though ie. hvCJD
'confirmed', here's your sign @sshole ;-)

IN CONFIDENCE

BSE ATYPICAL LESION DISTRIBUTION

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/yb/1993/03...

FASTFORWARD 2006-2007

USA ATYPICAL BSE STRAIN MORE VIRULENT TO HUMANS THAN UK BSE STRAIN

18 January 2007 - Draft minutes of the SEAC 95 meeting (426 KB) held on 7
December 2006 are now available.

snip...

64. A member noted that at the recent Neuroprion meeting, a study was
presented showing that in transgenic mice BSE passaged in sheep may be more
virulent and infectious to a wider range of species than bovine derived BSE.

Other work presented suggested that BSE and bovine amyloidotic spongiform
encephalopathy (BASE) MAY BE RELATED. A mutation had been identified in the
prion protein gene in an AMERICAN BASE CASE THAT WAS SIMILAR IN NATURE TO A
MUTATION FOUND IN CASES OF SPORADIC CJD.

snip...

http://www.seac.gov.uk/minutes/95.pdf

3:30 Transmission of the Italian Atypical BSE (BASE) in Humanized Mouse

Models Qingzhong Kong, Ph.D., Assistant Professor, Pathology, Case Western Reserve
University

Bovine Amyloid Spongiform Encephalopathy (BASE) is an atypical BSE strain
discovered recently in Italy, and similar or different atypical BSE cases
were also reported in other countries. The infectivity and phenotypes of
these atypical BSE strains in humans are unknown. In collaboration with
Pierluigi Gambetti, as well as Maria Caramelli and her co-workers, we have
inoculated transgenic mice expressing human prion protein with brain
homogenates from BASE or BSE infected cattle. Our data shows that about half
of the BASE-inoculated mice became infected with an average incubation time
of about 19 months; in contrast, none of the BSE-inoculated mice appear to
be infected after more than 2 years.

***These results indicate that BASE is transmissible to humans and suggest that BASE is more virulent than
classical BSE in humans.***

6:30 Close of Day One

http://www.healthtech.com/2007/tse/day1.asp

SEE STEADY INCREASE IN SPORADIC CJD IN THE USA FROM
1997 TO 2006. SPORADIC CJD CASES TRIPLED, with phenotype
of 'UNKNOWN' strain growing....

http://www.cjdsurveillance.com/resources-case...

There is a growing number of human CJD cases, and they were presented last
week in San Francisco by Luigi Gambatti(?) from his CJD surveillance
collection.

He estimates that it may be up to 14 or 15 persons which display selectively
SPRPSC and practically no detected RPRPSC proteins.

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/06/transc...

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/06/transc...

IN STRICT CONFIDENCE CONFIDENTIAL

ALZHEIMER'S TYPE PLAQUES TRANSMITS TO PRIMATE

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/yb/1992/11...

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/yb/1992/12...

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/yb/1993/01...

TSS
Terry Singeltary

United States

#14 Apr 26, 2007
10,000,000+ LBS. of PROHIBITED BANNED MAD COW FEED I.E. MBM IN COMMERCE USA 2007

Date: March 21, 2007 at 2:27 pm PST

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/enforce/2007/EN...

TSS
Terry Singeltary

United States

#15 Apr 26, 2007
1: J Infect Dis 1980 Aug;142(2):205-8


Oral transmission of kuru, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, and scrapie to nonhuman primates.

Gibbs CJ Jr, Amyx HL, Bacote A, Masters CL, Gajdusek DC.

Kuru and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease of humans and scrapie disease of sheep and goats were transmitted to squirrel monkeys (Saimiri sciureus) that were exposed to the infectious agents only by their nonforced consumption of known infectious tissues. The asymptomatic incubation period in the one monkey exposed to the virus of kuru was 36 months; that in the two monkeys exposed to the virus of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease was 23 and 27 months, respectively; and that in the two monkeys exposed to the virus of scrapie was 25 and 32 months, respectively. Careful physical examination of the buccal cavities of all of the monkeys failed to reveal signs or oral lesions. One additional monkey similarly exposed to kuru has remained asymptomatic during the 39 months that it has been under observation.

PMID: 6997404
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi...

TSS
Terry Singeltary

United States

#16 Apr 26, 2007
1: J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 1994 Jun;57(6):757-8


Transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease to a chimpanzee by electrodes contaminated during neurosurgery.

Gibbs CJ Jr, Asher DM, Kobrine A, Amyx HL, Sulima MP, Gajdusek DC.

Laboratory of Central Nervous System Studies, National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD 20892.

Stereotactic multicontact electrodes used to probe the cerebral cortex of a middle aged woman with progressive dementia were previously implicated in the accidental transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) to two younger patients. The diagnoses of CJD have been confirmed for all three cases. More than two years after their last use in humans, after three cleanings and repeated sterilisation in ethanol and formaldehyde vapour, the electrodes were implanted in the cortex of a chimpanzee. Eighteen months later the animal became ill with CJD. This finding serves to re-emphasise the potential danger posed by reuse of instruments contaminated with the agents of spongiform encephalopathies, even after scrupulous attempts to clean them.

PMID: 8006664 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi...

TSS
Terry Singeltary

United States

#17 Apr 26, 2007
hi pat,

no im not mad, my mother die thought from the hvCJD 'confirmed.

i noticed above you said to someone ;

> Educate yourself before speaking

> please.

i could say the same about you...

http://www.fortunecity.com/healthclub/cpr/798...

Full Text

Diagnosis and Reporting of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease

Singeltary, Sr et al. JAMA.2001; 285: 733-734.

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/285...

BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL

SOMETHING TO CHEW ON

BMJ

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/319/7220/1312...

BMJ

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/320/7226/8/b#...

TSS
Terry Singeltary

United States

#18 Apr 26, 2007
USA MAD COW STRAIN MORE VIRULENT TO HUMANS THAN UK STRAIN

18 January 2007 - Draft minutes of the SEAC 95 meeting (426 KB) held on 7
December 2006 are now available.

snip...

64. A member noted that at the recent Neuroprion meeting, a study was
presented showing that in transgenic mice BSE passaged in sheep may be more
virulent and infectious to a wider range of species than bovine derived BSE.

Other work presented suggested that BSE and bovine amyloidotic spongiform
encephalopathy (BASE) MAY BE RELATED. A mutation had been identified in the
prion protein gene in an AMERICAN BASE CASE THAT WAS SIMILAR IN NATURE TO A
MUTATION FOUND IN CASES OF SPORADIC CJD.

snip...

http://www.seac.gov.uk/minutes/95.pdf

3:30 Transmission of the Italian Atypical BSE (BASE) in Humanized Mouse

Models Qingzhong Kong, Ph.D., Assistant Professor, Pathology, Case Western Reserve
University

Bovine Amyloid Spongiform Encephalopathy (BASE) is an atypical BSE strain
discovered recently in Italy, and similar or different atypical BSE cases
were also reported in other countries. The infectivity and phenotypes of
these atypical BSE strains in humans are unknown. In collaboration with
Pierluigi Gambetti, as well as Maria Caramelli and her co-workers, we have
inoculated transgenic mice expressing human prion protein with brain
homogenates from BASE or BSE infected cattle. Our data shows that about half
of the BASE-inoculated mice became infected with an average incubation time
of about 19 months; in contrast, none of the BSE-inoculated mice appear to
be infected after more than 2 years.

***These results indicate that BASE is transmissible to humans and suggest that BASE is more virulent than
classical BSE in humans.***

6:30 Close of Day One

http://www.healthtech.com/2007/tse/day1.asp

SEE STEADY INCREASE IN SPORADIC CJD IN THE USA FROM
1997 TO 2006. SPORADIC CJD CASES TRIPLED, with phenotype
of 'UNKNOWN' strain growing....

http://www.cjdsurveillance.com/resources-case...

There is a growing number of human CJD cases, and they were presented last
week in San Francisco by Luigi Gambatti(?) from his CJD surveillance
collection.

He estimates that it may be up to 14 or 15 persons which display selectively
SPRPSC and practically no detected RPRPSC proteins.

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/06/transc...

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/06/transc...

TSS
Fiona

UK

#19 Jun 18, 2007
Former Hills Vet, Elizabeth Hodgkins DVM has written a book entitled "Your Cat" published by St. Martins Press in which she says it is not only very wrong to feed cats carbohydrate laden dry food but that feeding them this is giving cats diabetes, kidney failure, cystitis, struvite crystals that can kill cats within 24 hours if they are not catheterised, calcium oxalate stones which cause kiidney failure. I have veterinary research which back up what Dr. Hodgkins is saying. You can buy her book on Amazon if you shoud wnat to buy this excellent book. Dr. Hodgkins advises her clients to feed their cats raw food since this is what cats are meant to eat and they have thrived on raw food for the last 8,000 years and should not be fed either tinned or dry food. Kathy Sinning DVM in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medicine Association said in a letter publishd on 15th May 2001 that it is as preposterous to suggest that pets should be fed dry food asit would be to suggest that humans live on dry food. No other species on the plantet lives on dry food and cats and dogs should not be fed dry food since it is loaded with carblohydrate but Vet, Richard Allport says at cat should not even be fed 1% carbohydate since in the wild a cat would never seek out carbohydrate.

Dr. Lisa Pierson DVM at www.catnutrition.org also says that cats must not be fed carbohydrate and she too feed raw food to her cats. She details how feeding dry food is causing bladder problems which can kill cats and kidney failure.
Singeltary

Dickinson, TX

#20 Mar 26, 2012
well, I said it a decade ago, bbbut nobody believed me...about what they call doggy dementia, aka mad dog disease or mad cow disease in dogs, canine spongiform encephalopathy...
Monday, March 26, 2012
CANINE SPONGIFORM ENCEPHALOPATHY: A NEW FORM OF ANIMAL PRION DISEASE
http://caninespongiformencephalopathy.blogspo...
kind regards,
terry
Ryan

Thunder Bay, Canada

#21 Mar 20, 2014
Here is an interesting site if your a fish tank owner... http://remedieshealth.com/fish

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