Cracking Down on Millions in Back Chi...

Cracking Down on Millions in Back Child Support

There are 92 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Feb 23, 2013, titled Cracking Down on Millions in Back Child Support. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Back child support is an issue parents across the commonwealth are fighting for everyday.

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Lady Liberty

Charlottesville, VA

#64 Feb 27, 2013
citizen wrote:
Anybody paying child support needs to sit down with an IRS examiner and make the situation clear to them. Then just sit back and see what happens. The IRS code says "all income from whatever source derived" and that is the core of the federal tax laws.
Yes. The name and social security number of anyone receiving child support should be on the taxpayer's return.
Dave Briggman

Elkton, VA

#65 Feb 27, 2013
Child Support Receiver wrote:
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You can report child support on taxes, but no one does.
What are you talking about? You can't deduct it and it's not taxable income, so why would you report it?
Dave Briggman

Elkton, VA

#66 Feb 27, 2013
citizen wrote:
Anybody paying child support needs to sit down with an IRS examiner and make the situation clear to them. Then just sit back and see what happens. The IRS code says "all income from whatever source derived" and that is the core of the federal tax laws.
Except federal law doesn't include "receiving" child support as income.
RandomThoughts

Atlanta, GA

#67 Feb 27, 2013
Lady Liberty wrote:
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Yes. The name and social security number of anyone receiving child support should be on the taxpayer's return.
I think anyone on any form of public paid assistance should have there account viewable by the public and tallied from the day it's issued to them .

I don't pay my taxes , My county prints it in the paper .

You got 6 Babies from 6 different babby daddies ...

Oh thats not public record that I house ,feed , Prive free everything and keep this broken cycle going .
Grandfather

Charlottesville, VA

#68 Feb 27, 2013
My daughter's ex has changed jobs everytime DCSE finds him, he is nearly $3000 behind in support for 2 children in 2 years. My wife and I pay for after school for the kids, and help our daughter when we can. He hasn't seen them since last August when my daughter took them to their father's workplace. My daughter makes too much money to get any government assistance, and the deadbeat dad is supposed to cover one child on his insurance, but he quits the job before he can get insurance. We don't know where he works now, and DCSE says that the state doesn't know where he works so I'd assume he's working under the table.
RandomThoughts

Atlanta, GA

#69 Feb 27, 2013
Grandfather wrote:
My daughter's ex has changed jobs everytime DCSE finds him, he is nearly $3000 behind in support for 2 children in 2 years. My wife and I pay for after school for the kids, and help our daughter when we can. He hasn't seen them since last August when my daughter took them to their father's workplace. My daughter makes too much money to get any government assistance, and the deadbeat dad is supposed to cover one child on his insurance, but he quits the job before he can get insurance. We don't know where he works now, and DCSE says that the state doesn't know where he works so I'd assume he's working under the table.
Get a family picture with your daughter and the deadbeat dad , run an add on craigslist with the picture .

Run it in the area he was last seen in as missing you ...

Just a nice ohhh how we miss our daddy ..ANYBODY seen our daddy .

Somebody will let you know hwere he is :)

You gotta stop and think .... just some cost free options to taken care of buisness ...

You got the tolls right in front of you .. Nail his *** to the courtroom bench if what you say is true.

Can I get your daughters number ? I am single mon-fri 7 to 5 or so .

Just sayen
MARSHA MAINES

United States

#70 Feb 27, 2013
I don't even have to read any more comments. It is OBVIOUS many many many Virginia TAXPAYERS -still have NO CLUE that DCSE operates as a Duplicate Debt collection agency for Virginia.
-That child support "debt" is not DEBT at all. If the STATE does not LOAN a parent any money, then no Parent is Obligated to PAY the state. UNMARRIED parents have no CONTRACT in place (marriage) to allow ELIGIBILITY to exist for STATE intervention - UNLESS BOTH DNA contributors (once proven) SIGN over their PARENTAL RIGHTS to the child. Children MUST be WARDS of the STATE for the state to get involved. This is a FEDERAL program administered by state employees based on "incentives" in DIRECT VIOLATION of US Supreme Court case Printz/Mack vs. US (1997). You want somebody else to pay for raising YOUR child? Put them up for adoption.
MARSHA MAINES

United States

#71 Feb 27, 2013
citizen wrote:
Anybody paying child support needs to sit down with an IRS examiner and make the situation clear to them. Then just sit back and see what happens. The IRS code says "all income from whatever source derived" and that is the core of the federal tax laws.
IRS CODE also specifically states that the parent who CONTRIBUTES 51% of the child's needs, gets to CLAIM the child (as if children are only collateral/chattel). Therefore - ONLY NCP's could REALLY claim children if they are "paying" support - because the custodial parent doesn't "pay" - they "provide"...There are loopholes everywhere. The fact of the matter is - child support enforcement was CREATED to RE-IMBURSE the TAXPAYERS who PAY TAXES to a government which has LOANED $$$$$$ MONEIES $$$$ to a person who NEEDS assistance. Parental RIGHTS mean, EACH PARENT has EQUAL responsibility - but PRO CHOICE (Roe v. Wade) says oh no... ONLY WOMEN get to decide... I challenge any uterus for hire to give me ONE good reason for the WASTED TAX DOLLARS WE ALL PAY to even have this fake state agency in place at all.
MARSHA MAINES

United States

#72 Feb 27, 2013
Child Support Receiver wrote:
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Who in the h___ can support a child on $165.00 a month or take care of them for that, so you paid more in court cost or lawyer fees or who knows you might have received a free attorney at tax payers expense. I have to say it, but your a true low life when it comes to your child, wether your finished paying or not! A true disgrace to mankind! I bet taxpayers had to pay the rest for your child when your Ex received food stamps!
David Briggman is an Honorable Man. His is a Veteran. He is a Married Father. A full time parent to his children in his custody and has been VICTIMIZED and ABUSED by some of the most EVIL non-Humans I have ever encountered in my life. I have been a WITNESS and will TESTIFY to the Sacrifices this man - and his Current Family have paid to EXPOSE the DISGUSTING money laundering racket the Commonwealth of Virginia DEPENDS on by JAILING PARENTS FOR CREDITS. The DCSE Basement Court Orders are usually Pre-drafted with Unlawful 12 month JAIL sentences. Do some Court Watching - and be Educated.
Uva Rocks

New York, NY

#73 Feb 27, 2013
maybe you should have kept your legs shut. if you think others should think about what its like to be in your shoes, why don't you think about what its like to be a non-custodial parent, which in the eyes of the court is just a paycheck with legs? In the current system, mom gets all the rights, dad gets all the responsibilities.
Dave Briggman

Elkton, VA

#74 Feb 27, 2013
Child Support Receiver wrote:
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Who in the h___ can support a child on $165.00 a month or take care of them for that, so you paid more in court cost or lawyer fees or who knows you might have received a free attorney at tax payers expense. I have to say it, but your a true low life when it comes to your child, wether your finished paying or not! A true disgrace to mankind! I bet taxpayers had to pay the rest for your child when your Ex received food stamps!
Nice try, lady...that's just it..neither my ex, nor my daughter received any federal or state assistance...so if there are no benefits paid, on what possible basis would the state be able to intervene?

It reads like your problem is with the child support guidelines...$24,000/year, 1 child, and $165 is the guideline amount for support. There are nno "court costs" or lawyer fees in child support cases, moron.
Madison

Charlottesville, VA

#75 Feb 28, 2013
RandomThoughts wrote:
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I think anyone on any form of public paid assistance should have there account viewable by the public and tallied from the day it's issued to them .
I don't pay my taxes , My county prints it in the paper .
You got 6 Babies from 6 different babby daddies ...
Oh thats not public record that I house ,feed , Prive free everything and keep this broken cycle going .
People who receive TANF, receive the custodial parents share, or they don't receive TANF and keep the support. It's amazing to see how many people think they know the laws regarding child support, but I see a lot of inaccurate responses based on both Federal and State Laws. The child support woman was right when she stated that "people don't understand the system."
Madison

Charlottesville, VA

#76 Feb 28, 2013
Grandfather wrote:
My daughter's ex has changed jobs everytime DCSE finds him, he is nearly $3000 behind in support for 2 children in 2 years. My wife and I pay for after school for the kids, and help our daughter when we can. He hasn't seen them since last August when my daughter took them to their father's workplace. My daughter makes too much money to get any government assistance, and the deadbeat dad is supposed to cover one child on his insurance, but he quits the job before he can get insurance. We don't know where he works now, and DCSE says that the state doesn't know where he works so I'd assume he's working under the table.
Sir your daughter should count herself fortunate that he is only $3000 behind, especially since there are so many with arreages in the 10's of thousands of dollars. Obama care will take care of the childs insurance very soon, so not to worry!
Madison

Charlottesville, VA

#77 Feb 28, 2013
Sarg wrote:
The most thoroughly-reported story I have seen on this site. Thanks, Natalie.
I agree that this has been a good story posted, and the topic has been along time waiting. Please overhaul the system, and find a way to put the children on the front burner.
Grandfathers Daughter

Charlottesville, VA

#78 Feb 28, 2013
RandomThoughts wrote:
<quoted text>
Get a family picture with your daughter and the deadbeat dad , run an add on craigslist with the picture .
Run it in the area he was last seen in as missing you ...
Just a nice ohhh how we miss our daddy ..ANYBODY seen our daddy .
Somebody will let you know hwere he is :)
You gotta stop and think .... just some cost free options to taken care of buisness ...
You got the tolls right in front of you .. Nail his *** to the courtroom bench if what you say is true.
Can I get your daughters number ? I am single mon-fri 7 to 5 or so .
Just sayen
As soon as I read this, I knew my father had posted it!
Is that even legal? To post his pic up and make it seem like a missing persons? I mean, technically, our son hasn't seen or spoken to him since August, and our daughter hasn't seen/spoken to him since September when we went to his job, and she begged me to go down to his department so she could say "hi"... he texted me a few weeks later and said he wanted to treat me to lunch and discuss things, but never did... I haven't heard from him since the end of November when I called his employer to speak to him about the kids (after calls on his cell phone were ignored) and they said he was no longer with the company. I called him to see what was going on, but he didn't say much...
And actually, it's closer to $6,000 in arrears... I don't tell my parents everything because I don't want them to worry any more than they have to... I know to a lot of people,$6,000 isn't a lot, when there are people who are owed 10's of thousands in arrears, but it's a lot to me... I am ordered to receive $853/month base child support, plus $65/month towards arrears... that's $918 coming my way... this was based on imputed income on his end, as well as my income, and the costs associated in raising two school-aged children. Afterschool costs and health insurance premiums alone total up to $920/month, so the way I see it is he pays for childcare and insurance premiums, and I pay for a roof over their head, the utilities like electricity and water/gas, food in their bellies, and the clothing on their backs. I once had a bitter deadbeat dad tell me that I would have to pay these things whether or not I had kids, but if I didn't have kids, I wouldn't need a 3 bedroom home that costs me $900/month in rent, and my utility bills and food costs would be almost non-existent!!! Not to mention that we have a sick child who costs $80/month at the least in weekly doctor's co-pay's, and $92/month in prescriptions. He is also required to pay 67% of those medical/healthcare costs after I meet an annual deductible of $200, but I already know if I never see the base child support, I can kiss anything extra goodbye... I make $21 more a month than the system allows for any type of assistance, and I don't see a penny in support... why shouldn't he be held accountable?
At our last courtdate, when the support was increased from $400-$853, my husband told the judge that this was unfair, and that he couldn't afford that much; told the judge that he was a part-time seasonal employee... well I raised my hand and said to the judge "My husband is a high school graduate, is not handicapped/disabled, and he has no criminal background... There is NO reason why he should be a 'part-time seasonal employee'... he should be able to find either a full-time job, or multiple part-time jobs... I have a criminal background and I have a stable full-time job that involves handling money! And when he doesn't take iniative/advantage of his visitation set forth by the courts, and never see's the kids anyways, this means that I have them ALL THE TIME, which I don't mind, those are my babies, but I shouldn't feel pressured into looking for an additional part-time job on top of my already full-time job while having the kids full-time, when his arms and legs are not broken. He should be held accountable." And the judge agreed.
Grandfathers Daughter

Charlottesville, VA

#79 Feb 28, 2013
Madison wrote:
<quoted text>
Sir your daughter should count herself fortunate that he is only $3000 behind, especially since there are so many with arreages in the 10's of thousands of dollars. Obama care will take care of the childs insurance very soon, so not to worry!
Actually, it's closer to $6,000 in arrears... I don't tell my parents everything because I don't want them to worry any more than they have to... I know to a lot of people,$6,000 isn't a lot, when there are people who are owed 10's of thousands in arrears, but it's a lot to me... I am ordered to receive $853/month base child support, plus $65/month towards arrears... that's $918 coming my way... this was based on imputed income on his end, as well as my income, and the costs associated in raising two school-aged children. Afterschool costs and health insurance premiums alone total up to $920/month, so the way I see it is he pays for childcare and insurance premiums, and I pay for a roof over their head, the utilities like electricity and water/gas, food in their bellies, and the clothing on their backs. I once had a bitter deadbeat dad tell me that I would have to pay these things whether or not I had kids, but if I didn't have kids, I wouldn't need a 3 bedroom home that costs me $900/month in rent, and my utility bills and food costs would be almost non-existent!!! Not to mention that we have a sick child who costs $80/month at the least in weekly doctor's co-pay's, and $92/month in prescriptions. He is also required to pay 67% of those medical/healthcare costs after I meet an annual deductible of $200, but I already know if I never see the base child support, I can kiss anything extra goodbye... I make $21 more a month than the system allows for any type of assistance, and I don't see a penny in support... why shouldn't he be held accountable?

At our last courtdate, when the support was increased from $400-$853, my husband told the judge that this was unfair, and that he couldn't afford that much; told the judge that he was a part-time seasonal employee... well I raised my hand and said to the judge "My husband is a high school graduate, is not handicapped/disabled, and he has no criminal background... There is NO reason why he should be a 'part-time seasonal employee'... he should be able to find either a full-time job, or multiple part-time jobs... I have a criminal background and I have a stable full-time job that involves handling money! And when he doesn't take iniative/advantage of his visitation set forth by the courts, and never see's the kids anyways, this means that I have them ALL THE TIME, which I don't mind, those are my babies, but I shouldn't feel pressured into looking for an additional part-time job on top of my already full-time job while having the kids full-time, when his arms and legs are not broken. He should be held accountable." And the judge agreed.
Eric Cartman

Earlysville, VA

#81 Feb 28, 2013
CvilleMechEngr wrote:
<quoted text>
It is reported as income to the parent who earned it. It should not be taxed again.
Why should a non custodial parent GIVE TAX FREE MONEY without the custodial parent not claim it? Even Ray Charles could see it is unfair. Child support is tax evasion for the child support receiver, pure and simple.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#82 Feb 28, 2013
Uva Rocks wrote:
maybe you should have kept your legs shut. if you think others should think about what its like to be in your shoes, why don't you think about what its like to be a non-custodial parent, which in the eyes of the court is just a paycheck with legs? In the current system, mom gets all the rights, dad gets all the responsibilities.
so every conception is immaculate? I say farm organs from dead beats, they were equally complicit in the act. It takes TWO... Or just pay... If we start holding these sperm donors liable, perhaps there will be less unwanted pregnancies... That and limit subsidy increases, tell single moms that the will receive no extra benefit for more welfare kids, and offer Norplant or the modern equivalent at low rates to poor women.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#83 Feb 28, 2013
Eric Cartman wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should a non custodial parent GIVE TAX FREE MONEY without the custodial parent not claim it? Even Ray Charles could see it is unfair. Child support is tax evasion for the child support receiver, pure and simple.
keep it wrapped or don't have sex and you won't have to worry about it.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#84 Feb 28, 2013
And we wonder, (I don't) why some groups fall behind the national norms in education.

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