What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immi...

What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immigration?

There are 1502 comments on the WCTV Tallahassee story from Jul 4, 2012, titled What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immigration?. In it, WCTV Tallahassee reports that:

Research shows Florida and Georgia taxpayers lose tens of millions of dollars every year due to illegal immigration, and billions nationwide.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at WCTV Tallahassee.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#1519 Dec 14, 2012
t clms wrote:
RE: Constipated Democrat
"Inviting to Canada"
You poor desperate b..stard.. you are looking for some companionship because you have no friends or associates where you live. Why is that not a surprise.
You must have tried to hit on your forces buddies, but they must have rejected you like I am doing here too. Sorry buddy...
Don't worry, you would not like Canada anyway, and they don't like guys like you here either. They would just snicker at your camo pants.
I don't drink but I can see that you need "booze" to stabilize your brain from the stress of the illogic of your situation. It could be the explanation for your poorly concieved logic in your posts here. Maybe you need a break. Go for a long hike in the desert, that might help. and take a break from the military. I don't think it's your thing...
However,, you ARE a great inspiration.
you've inspired me, never to cross the 49th parallel
Thanks.
This is good material for a comedy show. The owner of the Palm Beach Improv is a client of mine; want me to give him a call and set up an audition for you?

Just a thought, if you won't cross the 49th parallel into the U.S., will you cross it into N.K? I hear there is an asshole shortage there and you may just "fit" in perfectly.
X Obama Supporter

Coffeyville, KS

#1520 Dec 14, 2012
Nijoni wrote:
To any interested, This from another thread
5-13-10, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed into law a bill to ban ethnic studies. Tom Horne, Super. of public schools, supported the ban. Calls "ethnic studies" "high treason". It teaches citizens to hate white people, Horne says. In other words, we can't let people "of color" know what we (white people) have done because they will despise our behaviour.
Hmmm.... God bless America. Land of genocide and the home of the slave.
Why would we teach "ethnic" studies anyway? This is America, our history should be taught, the good and the bad, the honorable and the ugly. But if you want ethnic studies go to another country where that is there history and they will be teaching it there. If people from other countries come to our country they should learn live and love OUR country for what it is and how we live. If they don't like it they don't have the right to change it to suit them, but they do have the right to NOT come here.
X Obama Supporter

Coffeyville, KS

#1521 Dec 14, 2012
Oh my, misread and misunderstood. OOPS. Same thoughts though, teach our history as our history is...good bad and ugly. It's our history and what made us who and what we are. Whites are not the only ones to do something bad, even in this country. Of course if they teach about slavery, as they should, they should include the whole truth. Whites didn't just go steal black people....black queen SOLD her own people to us. That is how it started and that is how it should be told. The black people were not just mistreated by whites, they sold out by their own first....same as they are being by the democratic party now and since it was formed.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#1522 Dec 14, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would we teach "ethnic" studies anyway? This is America, our history should be taught, the good and the bad, the honorable and the ugly. But if you want ethnic studies go to another country where that is there history and they will be teaching it there.
Actually, we should invest in teaching you proper grammar; it's not there history; it's their history.
X Obama Supporter wrote:
If people from other countries come to our country they should learn live and love OUR country for what it is and how we live. If they don't like it they don't have the right to change it to suit them, but they do have the right to NOT come here.
Not coming here isn't a right, but a choice. And, before you go out on a limb speaking about how "we live," you may want to consider that part of our history, IS ethnic history.

This is a very BIG Country, where diversity abounds. We're not all one-toothed, 65 BMI rednecks jumping into a puddle of muddy water for fun.

Ethnic diversity is as American as Baseball and Apple Pie. If we don't study it; how can we understand it and use it to our advantage?

Perhaps you like the thought of outhouses and segregated establishments and schools.

It is, however despicable the bill is, reassuring that the bill includes certain expressed exceptions, including not prohibiting schools from teaching about the Holocaust.

It's HB 2281. Read it for yourself:

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/h...
cunune

Masontown, PA

#1523 Dec 14, 2012
youtube.com/watch...
The Cost is only a cover-uo for Obama's Bad Luck and Timing
X Obama Supporter

Coffeyville, KS

#1524 Dec 14, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, we should invest in teaching you proper grammar; it's not there history; it's their history.
<quoted text>
Not coming here isn't a right, but a choice. And, before you go out on a limb speaking about how "we live," you may want to consider that part of our history, IS ethnic history.
This is a very BIG Country, where diversity abounds. We're not all one-toothed, 65 BMI rednecks jumping into a puddle of muddy water for fun.
Ethnic diversity is as American as Baseball and Apple Pie. If we don't study it; how can we understand it and use it to our advantage?
Perhaps you like the thought of outhouses and segregated establishments and schools.
It is, however despicable the bill is, reassuring that the bill includes certain expressed exceptions, including not prohibiting schools from teaching about the Holocaust.
It's HB 2281. Read it for yourself:
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/h...
Did I not say "oops" and admit that I had misread and misunderstood? I have spent alot of time on the "illegals and immigration" forums this morning and just assumed that was what I was reading. I read it too fast and was not thinking "ethnic" but "immigration" issues at the time. I also believe I stated that our history should be taught as it is, the good, bad, and ugly of it.
I do apologize for the typo in using the wrong "their vs there". I assure you I know the difference and understand the meaning of both. I tend to think faster than I type and sometimes a typo or mistake in proper grammer does occur. Usually though people in general are pretty good about ignoring the typo when they still get the meaning of the post and they don't bother to comment on the typo if they have an actual legit response and don't need to point out something that is misspelled or some other grammer mistake because they know it's usually just a cheap shot or jab at someone they are disagreeing with anyway. But if you think you needed the extra little jab to make your point.....kuddos to you!!! I bet texting makes you crazy!!!!
equote

Menard, TX

#1525 Dec 14, 2012
What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immigration?
ASK MEXICO ...

http://www.texastribune.org/immigration-in-te...

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#1526 Dec 14, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>
Did I not say "oops" and admit that I had misread and misunderstood? I have spent alot of time on the "illegals and immigration" forums this morning and just assumed that was what I was reading. I read it too fast and was not thinking "ethnic" but "immigration" issues at the time. I also believe I stated that our history should be taught as it is, the good, bad, and ugly of it.
I do apologize for the typo in using the wrong "their vs there". I assure you I know the difference and understand the meaning of both. I tend to think faster than I type and sometimes a typo or mistake in proper grammer does occur. Usually though people in general are pretty good about ignoring the typo when they still get the meaning of the post and they don't bother to comment on the typo if they have an actual legit response and don't need to point out something that is misspelled or some other grammer mistake because they know it's usually just a cheap shot or jab at someone they are disagreeing with anyway. But if you think you needed the extra little jab to make your point.....kuddos to you!!! I bet texting makes you crazy!!!!
Your "oops" post wasn't visible at the time I responded to the other post of yours.

Be that as it may, it wasn't a cheap shot, and it certainly not at you in particular. I point out things of the like every time I see them, without regard to whom I point it out. You don't have to like it.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1527 Dec 14, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would we teach "ethnic" studies anyway? This is America, our history should be taught, the good and the bad, the honorable and the ugly. But if you want ethnic studies go to another country where that is there history and they will be teaching it there. If people from other countries come to our country they should learn live and love OUR country for what it is and how we live. If they don't like it they don't have the right to change it to suit them, but they do have the right to NOT come here.
For sure. WHy teach about the Original Americans and all the genocides done to them? Why not cover the truth and continue to lie like has been going on for centuries now?? By all means cover your truths and continue to pound on your white chests.
Continue to lie about the murders, plots, thefts and broken treaties as you call NA's free loaders now that yours have robbed us of all you wanted. Subhumanize us and others for your glorius History of how grand the deaths of white Imperialists are. Just don't whine when History comes full cirle to bite you in the ass.
Deny all other races and wonder what happened in the end.
Brilliant Imperialsim. DO you re-write the history as well?
You must be soo Proud. Your day comes.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1528 Dec 14, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would we teach "ethnic" studies anyway? This is America, our history should be taught, the good and the bad, the honorable and the ugly. But if you want ethnic studies go to another country where that is there history and they will be teaching it there. If people from other countries come to our country they should learn live and love OUR country for what it is and how we live. If they don't like it they don't have the right to change it to suit them, but they do have the right to NOT come here.
With the exception of the Euro's apparently.
Yes, the truth of the indigenous should be taught and cried over. How truly cold hearted and Imperialist you are. Have fun with that.
As for your black slant, I won't address that. It is a black issue. I have never known that many blacks and won't speak for them. Although they do indeed have a story to tell.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1529 Dec 14, 2012
equote wrote:
What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immigration?
ASK MEXICO ...
http://www.texastribune.org/immigration-in-te...
Interesting how History comes full circle at times.
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1530 Dec 14, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
This is good material for a comedy show. The owner of the Palm Beach Improv is a client of mine; want me to give him a call and set up an audition for you?
Just a thought, if you won't cross the 49th parallel into the U.S., will you cross it into N.K? I hear there is an asshole shortage there and you may just "fit" in perfectly.
more like material for a documentary on: "the decline of the American military "man" "

You and your friends can fill in for the A--hole shortage, I am sure. In fact you alone would fill the void.
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1531 Dec 14, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean there is a logic board? Learn something new every day.
Where is this "logic board;" in your ass?
I think you have the right analogy, Your brain= my ass
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1532 Dec 14, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, we should invest in teaching you proper grammar; it's not there history; it's their history.
<quoted text>
Not coming here isn't a right, but a choice. And, before you go out on a limb speaking about how "we live," you may want to consider that part of our history, IS ethnic history.
This is a very BIG Country, where diversity abounds. We're not all one-toothed, 65 BMI rednecks jumping into a puddle of muddy water for fun.
Ethnic diversity is as American as Baseball and Apple Pie. If we don't study it; how can we understand it and use it to our advantage?
Perhaps you like the thought of outhouses and segregated establishments and schools.
It is, however despicable the bill is, reassuring that the bill includes certain expressed exceptions, including not prohibiting schools from teaching about the Holocaust.
It's HB 2281. Read it for yourself:
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/h...
Good God, you have actually said some reasonable things.....

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#1533 Dec 14, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
more like material for a documentary on: "the decline of the American military "man" "
You and your friends can fill in for the A--hole shortage, I am sure. In fact you alone would fill the void.
Let me know when your documentary comes out on Comedy Central.

Perhaps you can get Jeff Dunham to bring his puppets to act some of the parts out. I won't mind if you choose Walter as the one to depict me.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#1534 Dec 14, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you have the right analogy, Your brain= my ass
I realize you suffer from the handicap of being a Countryless man, but you were referring to a "logic" board and I asked if that was in your ass.

That's ok. You can believe what you want if it will help soothe your hemorrhoid problem.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#1535 Dec 14, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
Good God, you have actually said some reasonable things.....
Really?

Who cares what you think.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1536 Dec 14, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me know when your documentary comes out on Comedy Central.
Perhaps you can get Jeff Dunham to bring his puppets to act some of the parts out. I won't mind if you choose Walter as the one to depict me.
I think you are dealing with a migrant that would not fight to defend even his home OR homeland. One reason they seek sanctuary in free lands.
I appreciate your service. Mis-directed or not. I am grateful I never had to be trained to kill myself, but I would of gone if called. Now, I am not so sure. Knowing of course after the fact.
Political wars are one thing, in another land. Here at home, I feel different. This may sound over simplified. Great that we have a volunteer army in some ways. Not so much in others.
What do you think is up with the youth killing ea other? The current school shooting for example. How could any go in and kill little kids so? I wonder indeed about the conditioning of our Country. I am in favor of the right to bear arms. Not in favor of massacres.

“Tea Baggers are Traitors!!!”

Since: Oct 11

Ricoville, North America

#1537 Dec 14, 2012
Nijoni wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not make a life in Mexihell then? If they(yours no doubt) were so great and blah blah, they would not be here. Simple as that, they would be creating life in their own Lands.
Death is daily in Mexico, life is not valued so highly there it would appear. But now you want us to lower our standards to acomodate yours. Talk about mooching Carper Baggers.
WOrk in your own land and then brag of that.
You're part Mexican Indian. Did you think that an invisible line in the sand distincts between Mexican and American Indians???

That's so funny if you think that!

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#1538 Dec 14, 2012
Nijoni wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are dealing with a migrant that would not fight to defend even his home OR homeland. One reason they seek sanctuary in free lands.
I appreciate your service. Mis-directed or not. I am grateful I never had to be trained to kill myself, but I would of gone if called. Now, I am not so sure. Knowing of course after the fact.
Political wars are one thing, in another land. Here at home, I feel different. This may sound over simplified. Great that we have a volunteer army in some ways. Not so much in others.
What do you think is up with the youth killing ea other? The current school shooting for example. How could any go in and kill little kids so? I wonder indeed about the conditioning of our Country. I am in favor of the right to bear arms. Not in favor of massacres.
Ninjoni, first, it was an honor to serve. If I could, I would have already served a few tours in the WOT.

I have to tell you; I'm upset beyond words with this latest shooting in Newtown. It scares me because I have a child in elementary school, so I can really understand what the parents of those 20 kids that were killed must be feeling; I can put myself in their shoes.

Latest update, it was the son of a teacher at that school who did the shooting.

I'm a card carrying member of the ACLU, and a member of the NRA. I say that if in my jurisdiction Judges are exempt from the requirements for a concealed weapons permit, because of the threat they face on the bench, when they have armed bailiffs in the courtroom, then teachers should also be exempt from the requirements of a CWP and be allowed to have guns in the classroom.

When seconds count, the police is only minutes away.

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