What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immi...

What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immigration?

There are 1502 comments on the WCTV Tallahassee story from Jul 4, 2012, titled What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immigration?. In it, WCTV Tallahassee reports that:

Research shows Florida and Georgia taxpayers lose tens of millions of dollars every year due to illegal immigration, and billions nationwide.

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t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1434 Dec 8, 2012
Nijoni wrote:
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Then point it out COwboy idiot. You forget who people are. Calling a WASP a NA, etc. You are not worth the space. BoooRING foolish infant.
Never did I say this or anything about CHeese. You are too stupid to even consort or insult. You don't know a NA from any other, You brag of nonsense.. You have nothin'. Loser alcoholic one must assume is you in your Racist ignorance. Hiding in Canada, claiming to be from there, then saying you are not an immigrant or from there. Liar by the English. Probably your drugs affect your memory as well. If you were so prooud of your India, you would claim it.
Instead you Cower under another land and bash others in your stupidity.
I respond to the quoted text. I assume the person to whom it was directed is the poster.
Are you too lazy to have a conversation of your own.... Don't interrupt others
I am not interested in clarifying to you where I am from. I am everywhere and from everywhere that there is electricity: read Marshall McLuhan
Yes, India is a great country. They make a lot of good cheese there too.
Only respond to your own conversations dummy... or are they drying up.??.. no wants to respond to your comments any more....

You are foolish, boring, and have nothing to say. You are a typical propagandized person living in America. You live and think in a fog..

You cannot/ will not do anything to wake up from your cult dream prison.
And you actually think you live in the land of "Liberty and Freedom".

Just go away and do something useful, if you are such a free person.. Go ahead, make a million,
buy a Mercedes, build a new fancy house, start a business. build a new Band Centre
Get going on it.
Be a successful American.... with freedom, equality, everyone can do it, Get rich,...etc. bla bla...

Do it. At least finally prove to yourself that all this crap is true.

I dare you to prove it to yourself.........

You can't..

You live a lie.... LTIC

It only makes sense, on a blog like this, where other fools reinforce your delusions...

If you lie together, you keep believing together.

Prove me wrong... Be the great success you can be... "Liberty, Liberty, Freedom, Equality for All""

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1435 Dec 8, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
I respond to the quoted text. I assume the person to whom it was directed is the poster.
Are you too lazy to have a conversation of your own.... Don't interrupt others
I am not interested in clarifying to you where I am from. I am everywhere and from everywhere that there is electricity: read Marshall McLuhan
Yes, India is a great country. They make a lot of good cheese there too.
Only respond to your own conversations dummy... or are they drying up.??.. no wants to respond to your comments any more....
You are foolish, boring, and have nothing to say. You are a typical propagandized person living in America. You live and think in a fog..
You cannot/ will not do anything to wake up from your cult dream prison.
And you actually think you live in the land of "Liberty and Freedom".
Just go away and do something useful, if you are such a free person.. Go ahead, make a million,
buy a Mercedes, build a new fancy house, start a business. build a new Band Centre
Get going on it.
Be a successful American.... with freedom, equality, everyone can do it, Get rich,...etc. bla bla...
Do it. At least finally prove to yourself that all this crap is true.
I dare you to prove it to yourself.........
You can't..
You live a lie.... LTIC
It only makes sense, on a blog like this, where other fools reinforce your delusions...
If you lie together, you keep believing together.
Prove me wrong... Be the great success you can be... "Liberty, Liberty, Freedom, Equality for All""
This is your effort to admit your error/ weak as you are! Didn't read the rest of this Sh!t, just scanned. You can't stand up cause you ain't got nothin to stand on! Don't reply to your garbage cause you can't keep track. LOL
I have made my life thru work, something you should consider, Mooch. Your advice on success is a joke like you. Mom and Dad bank rolling your travels and all. LMAO You are too worthless and idiotic to waste more time on. Buh-bye Loser in Chief. Out.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1436 Dec 8, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
No.. all my insults directed to you are specific to your stupidities. I have others that you may elicit.
No one else said they were jealous of Canada but you...
You are having difficulty remembering what you said. Are you drinking again..??.
LTIC
Did your mattress of duck feathers break your fall? Stupid little kid you show yourself.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1437 Dec 8, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
The American dairy industry is full of hormones, steroids, and poor animal treatment practices.
I'll stick to Canadian and European cheese. Thanks anyway...
None of that Indian cheese you brag of, eh? Just shows a bit more of your hypocrisy.

Don't forget the urine your people are so thirsty for!

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1438 Dec 8, 2012
YOu are a LIe, and Live it. You won't claim what COuntry you are on the run from, just like CD suggested! So much to brag of,<sarcasm, idiot> yet you know it is a dump- otherwise rich butt heads like you and yours would still be there...but instead you took what you could and fled there..
:)
Can't create a damn thing in your greed for what others have made. What a group yours must be indeed.So glad Canada has you...we have more than enough like you polluting California daily.
Run for the free world's handouts!! Then condemn and critize as you have created nothing in your Home Land. And too stupid to see the irony.
But you go beyond even this, claiming to be responsible for our wealth and work. You should be hit in the head with a shovel several times.Just sayin'. Stop pretending you know Indians on this continent as well. Talk about showing your ignorance off! The ONLY thing in common is the misnomer of the name Indian. As to the Original Americans you don't have the iota of a clue.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1439 Dec 8, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
No.. all my insults directed to you are specific to your stupidities. I have others that you may elicit.
No one else said they were jealous of Canada but you...
You are having difficulty remembering what you said. Are you drinking again..??.
LTIC
AH, NO>>>Buzz is NOT me, I am not Buzz. CS is NOT me, I am not CS. Have someone interpret for you for crying out loud you fool.
Or continue to drag your butt. LOL @ U !!!!

Perhaps go and find a sweat lodge and lock yourself in.

Your stupidity goes beyond WOrds even. A Climax of how idiotic you are pounding on your bare chest.

I can reply to any posts I want, as you are not in charge of your own existance, much less MINE. Keep pounding on your chest though, when not draggin your knuckles on the ground that is.
Not my problem you can't comprehend or keep up with your own stupidity. again....LOL @ U!!
Oh yeah, get another box of insults, this one is wet and worn out.

BoooRing....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Buzzcut

Arlington Heights, MA

#1440 Dec 8, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
So if that American born Japanese person, whom you consider essentially an Anglo American was to carry out a conversation in Japanese, in public, to his siblings, parents, or any other member of the Japanese ethnic group; would you still consider him/her an "assimilated" person?
If he HAS assimilated to those American (Anglo American) values provided by our founding fathers why yes indeed (and speaks and writes in English as an assimialted member of society). That he chooses to speak in Japanese to others of Japanes origin to maintain an ability to be multi-lingual is not a problem.

Stop trying to be cute. You are not and will never be.
Buzzcut

Arlington Heights, MA

#1441 Dec 8, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
That is the greatness, of the lie, of assimilation..
If you think Anglos think you are Anglo, you are nuts..You will always be NA
Why do you TRY to deny the obvious truth?
Buzzcut

Arlington Heights, MA

#1442 Dec 8, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
They enter legally?? like Viet Nam and " Eye Rack" Grenada
Americans usually rip off countries by stealing their resources.
Those are the differences, speaking of such....
You need to do some learning..and stop being a Republican talking-point puppet...
EG: "We are the greatest""' LOL
Ripping off rewources by paying them money?

Canada sells resources to China and the US and anybody else who will pay. Is CAnada getting ripped off by all the countries they VOLUNTARILY sell to?

What a silly twit you are!
Buzzcut

Arlington Heights, MA

#1443 Dec 8, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
You explain what you contribute to society first... go ahead..
Regarding European values.... Your whole mental consciousness is constructed by ideas from Europe. Your brain would be totally devoid of possible thought without them.
I love your sword analogy. You're spicy...
You always dodge this one don't you?

Ideas created by Europeans remained DORMANT in Europe. America actually took Anglo and European thoughts and brought them into REALITY, not just Theory!

That theory versus a useful reality is what also differentiates yourself (unproven theory)from me (reality that works).

Indeed I am SPICY.
Buzzcut

Arlington Heights, MA

#1444 Dec 8, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a member of the KKK, right?
No. The KKK would say that those others are genetically incapable of assimiliating to Anglo values.

Where in what I wrote is there anything UNTRUE or not self-evident?

How is the truth racist? Why are you so afraid to discuss it rationally?
Buzzcut

Arlington Heights, MA

#1445 Dec 8, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
Teddy Roosevelt has not been president in a very long time. Society evolves and the beauty of America is that we can be Americans without giving up our ancestry. A hyphenated American is no less of an American than anyone who chooses not to hyphenate. You have no superior rights to those of a Korean-American, or a Polish-American, or any other hyphenated American. The U.S. Constitution does not differentiate in the language of the 14th Amendment. If you wish it did, run for office, get elected, then get a majority to vote for a re-write of it.
Otherwise, shut the f&ck up about it.
<quoted text>
Our country's founding values were those of the Native Americans who were here first. The immigrants who are referred to as the "founding fathers," brought values from their country of origin to their founded, and adoptive country, the U.S.A. So tell me again how is it that our Country is not great because of immigration?
<quoted text>
Apples and oranges pinhead. You're suggesting that values alone make the nation when values are intrinsic to, and co-dependent on the people that make up the nation. The U.S.A.'s values are those of its immigrant founders and the mere fact that some other nations in this hemisphere are not as "desirable" as the U.S., has no bearing at all on the values of those nations.
<quoted text>
Blacks are not of the Anglosaxon race pinhead. What they may have done, do, or will do, will never make them "Anglo Black men."
Get a refill on your meds.
The values of America were NOT the values of the Native American Indians. Our immigrant colonist Pilgrim (and others) ancestors created English Colonies in North America. It was our native born Founding Fathers who created the USA, again expanding on Anglo Saxon Protestant values. Religious freedom in the Christian worldcame from Mrtin Luther and the Protestant Reformation, with "Every man a Priest". There is no real theological need for religious freedom in the one holy apostolic universal catholic church. There the priests make the rules. Political and to a less unique extent economic freedom came from the English. America expanded upon those values and bestowed them on every citizen as a right given by God. As these values worked others noticed and wanted to join them. They came here and over time assimilated to the values of our Founding Fathers. But that assimilation was not perfect and the values of independence HAVE been weakened over time.

I am quite surprised that someone who has been through law shcool would be such a fool about hypenated Americans. You need to take a look at what Rooselvelt wrote and WHY. You really have your head in the sand with legal technicalities while ignoring basic realities. I think you can get what I am saying but are determined not to and then make excuses for that.

The truths I have spoken are basically self evident or at least evident to anyone who looks at them with an unbiased eye. Obviously you are just trying to score petty legal points but they do not diminish what I have written.

I guess I would not expect much from a lawyer who uses manipulating government laws as a way to enrich himself at society's expense. I look upon you as an ACLiarsU member and your military service like I look upon Benedict ARnold and his military service. He did a great job for America (more than you AND your father even) as a military man, yet then sold out his country.

I look upon you EXACTLY the same way. You did your service, then went to Law School, then joined the ACLiarsU , and then became nothing more than a PARASITE upon American society.

You were right about one thing, that values are co-dependent upon citizens who embrace them. Unlike you I am a citizen who embraces those American values while you have partly abandoned them and in the future will continue to further abandon them unless you change.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1446 Dec 9, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
I have the best; I'm associated with the best political party; my Country is the best, and it has the best President; why would I be jealous of a third world country?
Sounds to me the jealous one is you, because you can't call the soil under your feet your Country like I can mine.
Why don't you post your address and I'll have my friend, and client, Irene Rosenfeld send you a year's supply of American cheese so you can have it with your whine?
I can't find the right post of yours. It is the one above that buzz responded to. I would like to know what NA Values you are speaking of that your America was founded on. Other than the Iroquois being held hostage to write your constitution that also excluded us for how many years of even being citizens of our land?
FOunded on NA beliefs? Out fng Rageous!
ima

United States

#1447 Dec 9, 2012
Nijoni wrote:
<quoted text>
Then point it out COwboy idiot. You forget who people are. Calling a WASP a NA, etc. You are not worth the space. BoooRING foolish infant.
Never did I say this or anything about CHeese. You are too stupid to even consort or insult. You don't know a NA from any other, You brag of nonsense.. You have nothin'. Loser alcoholic one must assume is you in your Racist ignorance. Hiding in Canada, claiming to be from there, then saying you are not an immigrant or from there. Liar by the English. Probably your drugs affect your memory as well. If you were so prooud of your India, you would claim it.
Instead you Cower under another land and bash others in your stupidity.
I agree Nijoni, this character NEEDS TO TAKE A HIKE FROM THESE FORUMS. All we hear is insults after insults to all Americans in general. His life is nothing but a swirling negative abyss, he, it or she will never rise out of it and continues to sling nothing but nasties at everyone as he, she or it darkly drowns in his own dark hatred. What a miser, I'm glad I don't know anyone like this. Also this character has posted as others with the same type misery in his posts but one knows it's ONLY HIMSELF portraying another personality, he underestimates the general population's IQ.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1448 Dec 9, 2012
ima wrote:
<quoted text> I agree Nijoni, this character NEEDS TO TAKE A HIKE FROM THESE FORUMS. All we hear is insults after insults to all Americans in general. His life is nothing but a swirling negative abyss, he, it or she will never rise out of it and continues to sling nothing but nasties at everyone as he, she or it darkly drowns in his own dark hatred. What a miser, I'm glad I don't know anyone like this. Also this character has posted as others with the same type misery in his posts but one knows it's ONLY HIMSELF portraying another personality, he underestimates the general population's IQ.
Good points ima. I have a shovel around here somewhere.
:)

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1449 Dec 9, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
I respond to the quoted text. I assume the person to whom it was directed is the poster.
Are you too lazy to have a conversation of your own.... Don't interrupt others
I am not interested in clarifying to you where I am from. I am everywhere and from everywhere that there is electricity: read Marshall McLuhan
Yes, India is a great country. They make a lot of good cheese there too.
Only respond to your own conversations dummy... or are they drying up.??.. no wants to respond to your comments any more....
You are foolish, boring, and have nothing to say. You are a typical propagandized person living in America. You live and think in a fog..
You cannot/ will not do anything to wake up from your cult dream prison.
And you actually think you live in the land of "Liberty and Freedom".
Just go away and do something useful, if you are such a free person.. Go ahead, make a million,
buy a Mercedes, build a new fancy house, start a business. build a new Band Centre
Get going on it.
Be a successful American.... with freedom, equality, everyone can do it, Get rich,...etc. bla bla...
Do it. At least finally prove to yourself that all this crap is true.
I dare you to prove it to yourself.........
You can't..
You live a lie.... LTIC
It only makes sense, on a blog like this, where other fools reinforce your delusions...
If you lie together, you keep believing together.
Prove me wrong... Be the great success you can be... "Liberty, Liberty, Freedom, Equality for All""
Why would I, a NA, want your Imperialistic advice or values?

A car would be a bribe for you, obviously. You are quite the materialistic alien. Your markers only work for ones like yourself. Full of greed and lusts for what others have. Again, you really show off your ignorance with arrogance.

Why not just sit around singing Kumbayah and nail some jell to evergreen trees?

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1450 Dec 9, 2012
Jell-O*, Jello...Jello
an American treat.

What have yours contributed, invented or hepled us with?
Being on our dole doesn't count.

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#1451 Dec 9, 2012
Buzzcut wrote:
<quoted text>
The values of America were NOT the values of the Native American Indians. Our immigrant colonist Pilgrim (and others) ancestors created English Colonies in North America. It was our native born Founding Fathers who created the USA, again expanding on Anglo Saxon Protestant values. Religious freedom in the Christian worldcame from Mrtin Luther and the Protestant Reformation, with "Every man a Priest". There is no real theological need for religious freedom in the one holy apostolic universal catholic church. There the priests make the rules. Political and to a less unique extent economic freedom came from the English. America expanded upon those values and bestowed them on every citizen as a right given by God. As these values worked others noticed and wanted to join them. They came here and over time assimilated to the values of our Founding Fathers. But that assimilation was not perfect and the values of independence HAVE been weakened over time.
I am quite surprised that someone who has been through law shcool would be such a fool about hypenated Americans. You need to take a look at what Rooselvelt wrote and WHY. You really have your head in the sand with legal technicalities while ignoring basic realities. I think you can get what I am saying but are determined not to and then make excuses for that.
The truths I have spoken are basically self evident or at least evident to anyone who looks at them with an unbiased eye. Obviously you are just trying to score petty legal points but they do not diminish what I have written.
I guess I would not expect much from a lawyer who uses manipulating government laws as a way to enrich himself at society's expense. I look upon you as an ACLiarsU member and your military service like I look upon Benedict ARnold and his military service. He did a great job for America (more than you AND your father even) as a military man, yet then sold out his country.
I look upon you EXACTLY the same way. You did your service, then went to Law School, then joined the ACLiarsU , and then became nothing more than a PARASITE upon American society.
You were right about one thing, that values are co-dependent upon citizens who embrace them. Unlike you I am a citizen who embraces those American values while you have partly abandoned them and in the future will continue to further abandon them unless you change.
What an insightful summation. I look on him as a quisling.
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1452 Dec 9, 2012
Nijoni wrote:
<quoted text>
What an insightful summation. I look on him as a quisling.
Your little cabal of right-wing whiners have to support each other's insecurities
by repeating the Fox News talking points in unison so that you can reaffirm your own foolish ideas.

Your friend's connection with Martin Luther to American politics is a good example of exactly what one of your problems is. Protestanism is only one sector of religious affiliation in the US.

The US state is supposed to be separate from religion...but, Most Americans are always mixing the two.

Southern Baptists particularly, connect their values with the Republican party.

They are happy to support the American Military Complex because it bombs and kills non Christians, usually non-whites through out the world, While Baptists and religious nuts complain about Muslim extremists and burn Qurans

American Christians have killed more people than Muslims through the agency of the government they elect. All the while feeling self satisfied, and thinking they are honourable people.

You are not.

I am sure you understand the contradictions in your ideology and the reality of life in American society.. You are hypocrites. This disconnection between your ideas and reality will eventually cause you to become mentally unstable. I think it is happening to you now.
..but. keep telling yourselves how great you are.
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1453 Dec 9, 2012
ima wrote:
<quoted text> I agree Nijoni, this character NEEDS TO TAKE A HIKE FROM THESE FORUMS. All we hear is insults after insults to all Americans in general. His life is nothing but a swirling negative abyss, he, it or she will never rise out of it and continues to sling nothing but nasties at everyone as he, she or it darkly drowns in his own dark hatred. What a miser, I'm glad I don't know anyone like this. Also this character has posted as others with the same type misery in his posts but one knows it's ONLY HIMSELF portraying another personality, he underestimates the general population's IQ.
Ok.. you are correct about this! After Obama won the election, I have a greater respect for the IQ of the American "general population"...

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