Obamacare set to launch, shutdown or not

Obamacare set to launch, shutdown or not

There are 466 comments on the The Washington Post story from Sep 30, 2013, titled Obamacare set to launch, shutdown or not. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

Memphis Mayor A C Wharton encourages residents of his city to sign up for the Affordable Care Act during a rally Monday.

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too much

Roseville, MI

#369 Oct 19, 2013
imaginaryfriend wrote:
Shame on every repugnant House member that is stopping the clean C.R. bill to keep our government open.
Obamacare begins at midnight in any case!!
It's not Obama care goof. It's the affordable care act. Which the IRS is in charge of. You just love the IRS don't you?
too much

Roseville, MI

#370 Oct 19, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
Bush let 3,000 Americans die on 9/11 and sent 6,000 U.S. soldiers to their deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan but according to teapublicans, President Obama is the devil for what happened to 4 Americans in Benghazi.
Good thing they have their priorities in order.
It wasn't 3,000 Americas it was 3,000 people from all over.

Before you blame Bush you better look at Willy and the blue dress.

Where was his priorities?

He had the chance to capture Bin Laden and refused it.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

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#371 Oct 20, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Those people in Benghazi didn't have to die if the President had done the right thing, and ordered security for an Ambassador, and the others. That is the difference. Oh, but what difference does it make now anyway. We will see what difference it makes in 2016 when the former Secretary of State runs for President, and her credibility is questioned.
So if Hillary Clinton had ordered the embassy surrounded by extra soldiers and weaponry, you think the attack which used RPG's wouldn't have killed those 4 people? In fact, more people would have died. Didn't think that one out very well, did ya zippy?
It's amazing how you people argue with such little substance and you never come up with a solution, just endless criticism.

Criticize, politicize, and demonize.
That's all we hear coming from the right.
This is why teapublicans have a 24% approval rating.
Keep up the good work.

Hillary 2016

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

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#372 Oct 20, 2013
too much wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't 3,000 Americas it was 3,000 people from all over.
Before you blame Bush you better look at Willy and the blue dress.
Where was his priorities?
He had the chance to capture Bin Laden and refused it.
yawn.
Sorry FOXbot. Bill Clinton caught and imprisoned ALL the men responsible for the first WTC attacks and most, if not all of them are dead now. Clinton became so obsessed with killing Bin Laden that his staff convinced him to tone it down. Too bad they weren't as smart as him. He knew bin Laden was a threat to our national security and he told Bush but Bush was too busy clearing brush and vacationing 879 days of his 8 year term, the most vacation days of any President in American history and worked more hours than any other modern day president. Clinton took the least vacation days and he left us with the strongest economy in decades. Bush left us with a recession and he gave up on finding bin Laden. Thank goodness President Obama had the balls to avenge the 3,000 dead Americans (and foreigners) that Bush felt weren't worth the trouble.

So in conclusion, blow job vs 9/11.

Of course you sexually repressed conservaturds think a blow job is worse that 3,000 dead. You don't live in the same reality as the rest of us. Your 24% approval rating is proof of that, isn't it?
Cat74

United States

#377 Oct 20, 2013
Nothing is ever Obama's fault. It is as though he sits at his desk, all these failures take place, and he is clean. Well, the Buck stops at his desk. He hired all those people. They are all like him, women, gays, and blacks. All affirmative Action people. None experienced for the jobs they hold. His former Press Secretary was excoriating him yesterday. His name is Gibbs. He lied for the President for years.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#378 Oct 20, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Nothing is ever Obama's fault. It is as though he sits at his desk, all these failures take place, and he is clean. Well, the Buck stops at his desk. He hired all those people. They are all like him, women, gays, and blacks. All affirmative Action people. None experienced for the jobs they hold. His former Press Secretary was excoriating him yesterday. His name is Gibbs. He lied for the President for years.
Yes, we all like him and he's not going anywhere. Put your big girl pants on and shut the fuckup with the endless whining, bitching and moaning already. GET A LIFE!
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#380 Oct 20, 2013
No murders in NYC in a week...

Tulsa Murder Rate Soars Past 2012 Total

tulsa: 1 murder per 8208 residents

NY: 1 murder per 32566 residents

More okie quality of life courtesy of mattress mary fallin.
Cat74

United States

#381 Oct 20, 2013
Sorry, Sweetcakes, but Obama hasn't taken away freedom of speech yet so I can expound on my theories until dooms day. So Obama launched his healthcare registration, and it was a total failure. The Democrats made it mandatory that you register, then made it impossible to get it done. They are so funny, and so stupid. The Americans haven't been this disgusted with their government since Nixon was President.
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#383 Oct 21, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
One fake-french loser posting about a society of fake-french losers. Too funny.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#384 Oct 21, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Nothing is ever Obama's fault.. s.
Catboy, it looks like the republicants were at fault for the shutdown, according to the polls.
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#385 Oct 21, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Catboy, it looks like the republicants were at fault for the shutdown, according to the polls.
scat has been bloviating about how they voted the way their constituents wanted them to vote. teahadists own the $24 billion it cost the economy, but yet, they were the biggest crybabies about services, parks and government facilities that were shutdown. Take their candy away and it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

hahahahahahahahaha
lolol

Rio Rancho, NM

#386 Oct 21, 2013
the perils of 'premature launchulation'
CBOW

Dover, PA

#389 Oct 21, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>The roll out sucked.
They blew it but what have republicans or teatards done?
Crickets
Currently, Americans enjoy:
Obesity-record # of Americans are 33lbs overweight or morbidly obese
Diabetes-highest # of recorded cases
Heart Disease-"
Juvenile Diabetes-"
Cancer-"
(psst, the last four listed are often a result of poor eating habits, smoking and obesity).
We are the fattest, most unhealthy country in the world and as our incomes decline, our insurance rates and hospital bills go through the roof.
The republicans solution to stem the tide of inflated medical care that has already bankrupted 65% of American households ?
Nothing. Crickets. 0. Nada. Zilch.
Great plan. In the meant time, 3rd world countries have better and cheaper healthcare than the so-called Greatest country in the world. We certainly are not #1 in education or medical care but we are the #1 fatasses of the world! Yay!
I don't disagree with one thing you stated. My question was, how is the ACA mandate fixing the problems with unaffordability? How about fraud and waste? How about unnecessary tests? How about paying for illegals? Apparently the answer is always just throw more money at it. That IS ALWAYS the answer. Don't fix the problems, just blanket them in CASH!

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#390 Oct 21, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Go back to the trailer park by the prison peaches and raise your income again till daddy dies.
Project much, Le Ghettorat?

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#391 Oct 21, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't disagree with one thing you stated. My question was, how is the ACA mandate fixing the problems with unaffordability? How about fraud and waste? How about unnecessary tests? How about paying for illegals? Apparently the answer is always just throw more money at it. That IS ALWAYS the answer. Don't fix the problems, just blanket them in CASH!
Healthcare is unaffordable and for the average American with an average income, a long hospital stay is unsustainable. In most cases, it bankrupts families across the country.

When more people pay into the pool, prices are easier to control and the cost of uninsured people using the ER won't be passed on to those of us who are paying insurance premiums.

Fraud? Yes. Waste? Yes. We have that in SS, Medicare, Disability and Medicaid. Fraud is not something invented by President Obama. You should watch the 60 minutes episode from last week that addressed the huge increase in disability applications from 2 million to 10 million people filing for disability. Republican Senator Tom Coburn is leading the charge and investigating what seems to be millions of fraudulent applications, many of which were approved. Unbelievable.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#392 Oct 21, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
5 million lines of software code needs to be rewritten...
'Credibility death spiral'...
Three years to get it right..........another Obama clusterf-ck.
Schadenfreude.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#393 Oct 21, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>Healthcare is unaffordable and for the average American with an average income, a long hospital stay is unsustainable. In most cases, it bankrupts families across the country.
When more people pay into the pool, prices are easier to control and the cost of uninsured people using the ER won't be passed on to those of us who are paying insurance premiums.
Fraud? Yes. Waste? Yes. We have that in SS, Medicare, Disability and Medicaid. Fraud is not something invented by President Obama. You should watch the 60 minutes episode from last week that addressed the huge increase in disability applications from 2 million to 10 million people filing for disability. Republican Senator Tom Coburn is leading the charge and investigating what seems to be millions of fraudulent applications, many of which were approved. Unbelievable.
Indeed. What do you suppose is the driver for aspirins costing $50.00 a piece? What is the driver for an x-ray costing $2,550.00 and a tech to read it for another $1,500.00? It's not insurance that's the problem, it's the whole medical industry. From hospitals to medical device manufacturers to the doctors themselves. Actually, the insurers have always been the problem. Physicians Insurance company had a huge agency about 10 miles from me. The building rivaled some of the buildings in Washington. Too, much is squandered on BS and doesn't actually get used for medical payouts. Then we have FDA abuses allowing drugs onto the market that kill people, then followed by huge lawsuits with structured settlements. Disability is definitely the fastest growing avenue for fraud, due to the fact that we have an aging populace and with that comes added burdens on the agencies that sign people up. The biggest legal offender is Binder and Binder. A law firm that does noohing other than advocate for those trying to get disability. I love the 220 pound guy parked int he handicapped spot at Walmart walking out with a 50 lb bag of dog food on his shoulder. Bloody Hell.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#394 Oct 21, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed. What do you suppose is the driver for aspirins costing $50.00 a piece? What is the driver for an x-ray costing $2,550.00 and a tech to read it for another $1,500.00? It's not insurance that's the problem, it's the whole medical industry. From hospitals to medical device manufacturers to the doctors themselves. Actually, the insurers have always been the problem. Physicians Insurance company had a huge agency about 10 miles from me. The building rivaled some of the buildings in Washington. Too, much is squandered on BS and doesn't actually get used for medical payouts. Then we have FDA abuses allowing drugs onto the market that kill people, then followed by huge lawsuits with structured settlements. Disability is definitely the fastest growing avenue for fraud, due to the fact that we have an aging populace and with that comes added burdens on the agencies that sign people up. The biggest legal offender is Binder and Binder. A law firm that does noohing other than advocate for those trying to get disability. I love the 220 pound guy parked int he handicapped spot at Walmart walking out with a 50 lb bag of dog food on his shoulder. Bloody Hell.
Lawyers are a huge problem in America. You are right about that. Many times, they are helping real victims but America has turned lawsuits into a source of income instead of working for a living. People will do anything to collect a check and not have to work and lawyers are only too happy to oblige. Why would they care about contributing to soaring healthcare costs? They make $300 an hour and have great healthcare not to mention, they own state legislatures and Congress. You know how I feel about insurance companies. They are the scum of the earth and hospitals are only too happy to play along, especially high priced doctors who are also in bed with big pharm.

I know ACA is flawed. I'm not beholden to President Obama as being perfect, he is far from it but I do think he has good intentions and we are facing a shitstorm as obesity continues to run rampant along with the diseases it accelerates like diabetes, heart disease and cancer.

ACA has done one thing. It's forced all hospitals to look at budgets of successful hospitals like Cleveland Clinic and hopefully they will start to follow their lead and stop the waste they have enjoyed for years. They have no answer for the question "Why is heart surgery $6000 in Ireland but $100,000 in the U.S."? There is no answer other than greed and lack of oversight.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#395 Oct 21, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>Lawyers are a huge problem in America. You are right about that. Many times, they are helping real victims but America has turned lawsuits into a source of income instead of working for a living. People will do anything to collect a check and not have to work and lawyers are only too happy to oblige. Why would they care about contributing to soaring healthcare costs? They make $300 an hour and have great healthcare not to mention, they own state legislatures and Congress. You know how I feel about insurance companies. They are the scum of the earth and hospitals are only too happy to play along, especially high priced doctors who are also in bed with big pharm.
I know ACA is flawed. I'm not beholden to President Obama as being perfect, he is far from it but I do think he has good intentions and we are facing a shitstorm as obesity continues to run rampant along with the diseases it accelerates like diabetes, heart disease and cancer.
ACA has done one thing. It's forced all hospitals to look at budgets of successful hospitals like Cleveland Clinic and hopefully they will start to follow their lead and stop the waste they have enjoyed for years. They have no answer for the question "Why is heart surgery $6000 in Ireland but $100,000 in the U.S."? There is no answer other than greed and lack of oversight.
Exactly. One of the reasons that heart surgery is $6,000.00 and ours is A$100,000.00 is because in America, we have used the medical "industry" as a major source of investment, leading back to your statement that "people will do anything to collect a check and not work for it". The stats are that the medical industry, including insurance and pharmaceuticals, therapists, and billing and coding make up 1/6th of our economy. That in itself is disturbing. Banking on the ill-health of an entire nation. I have never been against a revised healthcare sector, I am just troubled by how it's allegedly being revised.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#399 Oct 21, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>All it did is make Insurance companies make policies that cover things they never covered, hense the large premium increases. If the young don't sign up, people will either be bankrupted to pay the penalties or the whole thing will collapse when the Republican are elected in 2014 and 2016.
I was talking to a liberal dem on Saturday. According to him, the fine/tax/penalty for not having insurance places you on Medicare, if you should have a medical issue. I don't know how true this is, but if the youth know that, what is the incentive to purchase policies with huge deductibles, co-pays and giant premiums?

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