Obamacare set to launch, shutdown or not

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Memphis Mayor A C Wharton encourages residents of his city to sign up for the Affordable Care Act during a rally Monday.

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There is no comparison between Obama, and Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. None Obamacare will never work. Americans know it, and want no part of it.
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<quoted text>Lame attempt at back pedaling.
Could you be any dumber, bCOW?
Answer the question.
80 million uninsured Americans will get sick or injured and they will go to the ER without health insurance. Who will pay their bills?
Answer the question.
When did we go from 47 million uninsured people to 80 million? And of course, you realize that nearly half of those are illegal aliens?

And since you already knew that, you also know they still won't be insured through the ACA.

And according to the Dept of Health and Human Services's press release in late Sept., 11 million of those uninsured still won't be insured after the ACA in fully implemented.

Who will pay their bills?
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1) The Gov doesn't create jobs. Our free market is self-sustainable.
2) We do not have major unemployment. 7.9% is manageable and normal. Companies aren't hiring because downsizing proved they can make more money with less employees so they are raking in record profits and paying record low incomes.
3) Fuel currently is at it's lowest price in years and under President Obama, we are about to surpass Russia in energy production.
4) Housing starts and sales have increased every month and home values are going up considerably.
You should shut off hate radio and FOX spews. You sound like you are clueless to current events.
Where on earth did you get these stats?

7.9% unemployment is neither manageable or normal. Worse, the true number (U6) is at 13.5%. Those are the people whose benefits ran out and they are no longer counted in the U3 number (7.9%)

77% of all jobs created in the first half of this year are part time jobs.

Household income has dropped an average of over $5,000 per household since 2009.

Fuel prices aren't down...how old are you? When they bounced up as high as they are now under Bush, the whole country was in an uproar. But they were at about $1.72 a gallon when Obama took office.

Housing starts have been bumped up in a few areas, but sales are still down and some states (like my own, CT.) still haven't seen the bottom of the market yet. Property values are still declining.

Companies are not hiring because the economy is so bad. Retail sales are way down from where they were, and every time they predict how much they'll rise in a quarter, they consistently come in way under projected percentages. Worse, they then get revised even lower once they do more counting.

The ACA is making this worse, too. Companies are hiring part time so they don't have to provide (and pay for) insurance for their employees, or pay the fine for not providing it. So they hire 30 hours or less.

Maybe you should tune into FOX, or try reading the financial section of the NYT's, WashPo or the WSJ. You are woefully misinformed. Our economy is in the crapper.

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<quoted text>Right, it is just Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid which Favor Communism.
I understand your ignorance of the discussion material, however Social Security is mine with my money as well the others. Obama tax is extortion of my money for something that doesn't work nor is needed. It is a law of control not healthcare. If the young don't sigh up it will implode as it is now doing due to malfunctions.

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<quoted text>Where on earth did you get these stats?

7.9% unemployment is neither manageable or normal. Worse, the true number (U6) is at 13.5%. Those are the people whose benefits ran out and they are no longer counted in the U3 number (7.9%)

77% of all jobs created in the first half of this year are part time jobs.

Household income has dropped an average of over $5,000 per household since 2009.

Fuel prices aren't down...how old are you? When they bounced up as high as they are now under Bush, the whole country was in an uproar. But they were at about $1.72 a gallon when Obama took office.

Housing starts have been bumped up in a few areas, but sales are still down and some states (like my own, CT.) still haven't seen the bottom of the market yet. Property values are still declining.

Companies are not hiring because the economy is so bad. Retail sales are way down from where they were, and every time they predict how much they'll rise in a quarter, they consistently come in way under projected percentages. Worse, they then get revised even lower once they do more counting.

The ACA is making this worse, too. Companies are hiring part time so they don't have to provide (and pay for) insurance for their employees, or pay the fine for not providing it. So they hire 30 hours or less.

Maybe you should tune into FOX, or try reading the financial section of the NYT's, WashPo or the WSJ. You are woefully misinformed. Our economy is in the crapper.
U6 is actually 17,6--%

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I understand your ignorance of the discussion material, however Social Security is mine with my money as well the others. Obama tax is extortion of my money for something that doesn't work nor is needed. It is a law of control not healthcare. If the young don't sigh up it will implode as it is now doing due to malfunctions.
I understand your ignorance too of the discussion material that the Social Security Tax is not your money or my money because it is based on a tax and if you feel that way then you are for communism and you are a communist yourself like obama but both Social Security and Obamacare and designed to raise tax revenue for the Federal Government.

Social Security’s Sham Guarantee

By Michael D. Tanner

May 29, 2005

They are not guaranteed legally because workers have no contractual or property rights to any benefits whatsoever. In two landmark cases, Flemming v. Nestor and Helvering v. Davis, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Social Security taxes are not contributions or savings, but simply taxes, and that Social Security benefits are simply a government spending program, no different than, say, farm price supports. Congress and the president may change, reduce, or even eliminate benefits at any time.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/s...
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(CBS News) More than two weeks have passed since HealthCare.gov went live. Uninsured Americans are trying to sign up for coverage, but complaints are growing louder every day, especially from Congress.

It's still unknown how many Americans have been able to enroll and finding people who have enrolled difficult, CBS News correspondent Jan Crawford reported. And now, CBS News has learned members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee are launching an investigation into what has gone wrong.

The president now acknowledges the problems with HealthCare.gov are more serious than he initially led on. "The web site that was supposed to do this all in a seamless way has had way more glitches than I think are acceptable," Mr. Obama said Tuesday in an interview with KCCI-TV.

It was a different President Obama two weeks ago when he tried to compare the health care rollout to the launch of a new iPhone. He said on Oct. 1, 2013, "Within days, they found a glitch, so they fixed it. I don't remember anybody suggesting Apple should stop selling iPhones or iPads."

Except the problem with the web site is it hasn't been fixed. Even supporters, such as the president's former press secretary, Robert Gibbs, say someone should be fired. Gibbs didn't name names, but the head of the Republican Party is pointing straight to the top, calling on Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to go.

Sebelius isn't talking -- at least not since her interview on "The Daily Show" last week went viral after she fumbled her way through it.

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Our free market has been declining due to taxation and gubmint interference. Are you kidding, where did you get your info, a Cracker Jack box?
7.9% is a dream figure. More of the lefty propaganda designed to prop up the puppet Odumbo's ratings.
Fuel is not at it's lowest, you moron. I am still paying 3.99 a gallon for diesel. What a passel of BS.
Housing starts for high density because of renting. That isn't for single family dwellings. You are kidding me, you can't honestly believe your statements quantify Odumbo's actions. LOL!!!!
If you're stupid enough to buy a car that runs on diesel, you deserve to pay $3.99. I just paid $3.26. Maybe you should move or buy something other than a gas guzzler, dumbass.

Corporations have trillions in the bank.
They are doing better than at any other time in American history.
Why?
Cuz they are paying record low wages and running their businesses with less employees and it doesn't look like they are going to rehire those who lost their jobs during the economic crisis.

That's not President Obama's faulty, honey, but you knew that already. You just like the sound of your own voice.

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Where on earth did you get these stats?
7.9% unemployment is neither manageable or normal. Worse, the true number (U6) is at 13.5%. Those are the people whose benefits ran out and they are no longer counted in the U3 number (7.9%)
77% of all jobs created in the first half of this year are part time jobs.
Household income has dropped an average of over $5,000 per household since 2009.
Fuel prices aren't down...how old are you? When they bounced up as high as they are now under Bush, the whole country was in an uproar. But they were at about $1.72 a gallon when Obama took office.
Housing starts have been bumped up in a few areas, but sales are still down and some states (like my own, CT.) still haven't seen the bottom of the market yet. Property values are still declining.
Companies are not hiring because the economy is so bad. Retail sales are way down from where they were, and every time they predict how much they'll rise in a quarter, they consistently come in way under projected percentages. Worse, they then get revised even lower once they do more counting.
The ACA is making this worse, too. Companies are hiring part time so they don't have to provide (and pay for) insurance for their employees, or pay the fine for not providing it. So they hire 30 hours or less.
Maybe you should tune into FOX, or try reading the financial section of the NYT's, WashPo or the WSJ. You are woefully misinformed. Our economy is in the crapper.
When I started reading your post, I knew right away you were a FOXbot.

When you learn to think for yourself, get back to me.
Fox offers fiction because it's audience is either uneducated or poorly educated. You proved that point in spades.
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Scam artists have seemingly found a friend in ObamaCare.

Reports are emerging that shysters are using Tennessee residents’ relative lack of knowledge about the new health care law to defraud them.

Scam artists, for example, are making calls claiming they need Social Security numbers to sign people up for a new ObamaCare insurance card, according to a statement from the Tennessee Department of Commerce and Insurance.

“We’ve been made aware of one scam, in particular,” said TDCI spokeswoman Kate Abernathy.

“One of our navigator agencies let us know that there was an individual calling people saying that he or she could have walked him through the application process for $100 for a navigator certified application counselor service, but that information is completely incorrect. That is a free service that is supposed to remain free.”

The federal government, along with the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, began sending out advisories against possible fraud related to ObamaCare many months ago, Abernathy said. THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING.

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<quoted text>If you're stupid enough to buy a car that runs on diesel, you deserve to pay $3.99. I just paid $3.26. Maybe you should move or buy something other than a gas guzzler, dumbass.

Corporations have trillions in the bank.
They are doing better than at any other time in American history.
Why?
Cuz they are paying record low wages and running their businesses with less employees and it doesn't look like they are going to rehire those who lost their jobs during the economic crisis.

That's not President Obama's faulty, honey, but you knew that already. You just like the sound of your own voice.
Still waiting on daddy to die pookie.

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<quoted text>When I started reading your post, I knew right away you were a FOXbot.

When you learn to think for yourself, get back to me.
Fox offers fiction because it's audience is either uneducated or poorly educated. You proved that point in spades.
Yawn. Yes the people that watch fox are soooooooo bad because you loons can't baffle them with bullchit.

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Scam artists have seemingly found a friend in ObamaCare.

Reports are emerging that shysters are using Tennessee residentsÂ’ relative lack of knowledge about the new health care law to defraud them.

Scam artists, for example, are making calls claiming they need Social Security numbers to sign people up for a new ObamaCare insurance card, according to a statement from the Tennessee Department of Commerce and Insurance.

“We’ve been made aware of one scam, in particular,” said TDCI spokeswoman Kate Abernathy.

“One of our navigator agencies let us know that there was an individual calling people saying that he or she could have walked him through the application process for $100 for a navigator certified application counselor service, but that information is completely incorrect. That is a free service that is supposed to remain free.”

The federal government, along with the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, began sending out advisories against possible fraud related to ObamaCare many months ago, Abernathy said. THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING.
Just what you need more crime because of a failed plan.
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Just what you need more crime because of a failed plan.
Of course, it keeps those liberal lawyers in business. Truly, anyone who signs up on these exchanges without them being secure is a baffoon.
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financing of wars, coups and israel should be over and it will be money for all possible issues there.
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Cat74 wrote:
There is no comparison between Obama, and Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. None Obamacare will never work. Americans know it, and want no part of it.
so why does it work, and has worked over 8 years, in Mass? And for federal employees? And Medicare? And, well you get my point. Ignorance is a curable condition.

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so why does it work, and has worked over 8 years, in Mass? And for federal employees? And Medicare? And, well you get my point. Ignorance is a curable condition.
it don't work and I know people who live in Massachusetts.
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<quoted text>When I started reading your post, I knew right away you were a FOXbot.
When you learn to think for yourself, get back to me.
Fox offers fiction because it's audience is either uneducated or poorly educated. You proved that point in spades.
Well, you couldn't be more wrong. I'm not a FOXbot. In fact, I listed my sources. Perhaps if you go back, read it very slowly, maybe it will sink in the second time.

Bots are people who revert to the automatic default argument, very much like the one you posted.

Disagree with you? MUST BE A FOXBOT.

Since you will never think for yourself, don't get back to me.

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<quoted text>so why does it work, and has worked over 8 years, in Mass? And for federal employees? And Medicare? And, well you get my point. Ignorance is a curable condition.
Because it is not the same plan.
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That is the problem, we don't know what Obamacare really is. It is 1,000s of pages of restrictions on Americans, with 137 new taxes thrown in for Liberal measure. There is nothing American about it, because it was written by people who have no clue about what America is, or stands for, and we won't be a part of it. Doctors won't be a part of it. It will die on it's own. And all the time spent on Obamacare will have been time wasted.

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