White House asks Supreme Court to ove...

White House asks Supreme Court to overturn gay marriage ban

There are 55 comments on the CBS News story from Feb 23, 2013, titled White House asks Supreme Court to overturn gay marriage ban. In it, CBS News reports that:

The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to declare unconstitutional a section of federal law that only recognizes male-female marriages.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at CBS News.

“The Sky Is Falling!”

Since: Apr 07

Chicago, IL

#23 Feb 28, 2013
DENG wrote:
WHY GIVE SHITEATERS RIGHTS AS IT'S A DISEASE.
DENG DONG!!

Sorry to hear that you ATESHIT and became DISEASED.

Sniff, sniff....

“The Sky Is Falling!”

Since: Apr 07

Chicago, IL

#25 Feb 28, 2013
RayOne wrote:
Where is the love?
Character was the fundamental change.
Drunk again, old man?
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#26 Feb 28, 2013
Jeff Brightone wrote:
The Mozlem Brother scholar Obama pushes new anti-American and immoral ideas that could undermine the pillars of the traditional American family and society. Why would any American who has a family with children support the destruction of the American family with Sodom and Gemmorah doggy anal culture? During more than 5000 years humanity rejected the idea of doggy style behavior of people that creates futile society of singles with no children leading to the slow death of society without new generation? GOP RINO Jon Huntsman proved to follow the Obama worst ideas for America and he continue to go blind after the self destruction policies of Obama that will convert America to failed dying society of the third word.
Mozlem? Really?
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#28 Feb 28, 2013
Cfoote wrote:
Here is an idea.. Obama stay out of it. Major Corporations stay out of it.. GOP and DEMS.. stay out of it. Hollywood stay out of it...
Supreme Court. listen to what 33 states have said.. and that is NO
Uphold Prop 8 and the voice of the people. Stop believing that the "vast Majority" of America wants gay marriage.. It doesn't , if it did there would not be 33 states with laws and amendments banning it.
State legislators stop forcing it down your voters throats and not allow thme to speak via referrendum
Let get back to what the Preamble says "We the People"
Not a select few, or a minority.
While not the best reference this applies:
Spock's dying words"
"The needs of the MANY outweigh the needs of the Few"
Kirk "or the One"
The many have spoken in 33 states
DOMA is unconstitutional. The federal government has no business telling the States whose marriages they will recognize and whose they won't recognize.

“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#29 Feb 28, 2013
XXX13 wrote:
Doesn't this clown Obummer have anything constructive to do?
Half the country is out of work and he's worried about who marries who?
You've got it all wrong. Half the country is out of work, and YOU are worried about who marries who.

Don't YOU have something constructive to do besides sitting at your computer and attacking other persons' Constitutional rights?
Rrrrrr

Plymouth, MN

#30 Feb 28, 2013
Work by Cornell University psychologist Michael Dunning and Robert Kruger found a direct correlation between anti-gay sentiments and the individuals who have them: the more anti-gay an individual, the more strongly he/she harbored homosexual tendencies.

“Typically,” Dunning wrote,“such individuals were desperately suppressing their own homosexual desires. The human psyche is incapable of maintaining the pressure of active suppression and manifests itself in any number of ways, from physical ailments, such as obesity to make one’s self unattractive to the same sex, or becoming overly macho as a way to demonstrate that they are the opposite of the stereotypical homosexual, to anger against homosexuality. Simply put, the more anti-homosexual one is, the strong their urge to be homosexual.”
King Rodman

Nha Trang, Vietnam

#31 Feb 28, 2013
eyeful wrote:
<quoted text>
Drunk again, old man?
do U hacking into Bill Gay softwear PC!! ;-00

Since: Jun 09

Schenectady, NY

#32 Mar 1, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Dear, you really should have paid better attention in 8th grade Civics when you were taught what the role of the Supreme Court is. It isn't their job to listen to the states, their job is to listen to the Constitution and if the states have done something which violates even one individual's constitutional rights, what the states have done cannot be allowed to stand. When the Supreme Court essentially overturned the death penalty in 1972 in Furman v Georgia, the Court told the 49 states with such a law on the books, they had gotten it wrong. Thanks for playing, but I suggest you start working on your coping skills. Lesbians and gays will soon have equality in marriage in every state, maybe as soon as June of this year, whether you or the states agree or not.
So by a 5-4 vote this squeaked by at the Federal Level.. Hmm last I looked 33 states still have the death penalty.. Wow just like the same number of states with amendments banning SSM.. Sorry the Constitution no where says marriage is a right. A right needs no permisssion. No permission needed in the right to remain silent, With marriage you need permission from the state, thus not a right at all. The SCOTUS will let this go back to the states, they aren't going to religion, or marriage that results in children, they will vote is marriage a right for either hetro or homosexuals and its not

Since: Jun 09

Schenectady, NY

#33 Mar 1, 2013
Rrrrrr wrote:
Work by Cornell University psychologist Michael Dunning and Robert Kruger found a direct correlation between anti-gay sentiments and the individuals who have them: the more anti-gay an individual, the more strongly he/she harbored homosexual tendencies.
“Typically,” Dunning wrote,“such individuals were desperately suppressing their own homosexual desires. The human psyche is incapable of maintaining the pressure of active suppression and manifests itself in any number of ways, from physical ailments, such as obesity to make one’s self unattractive to the same sex, or becoming overly macho as a way to demonstrate that they are the opposite of the stereotypical homosexual, to anger against homosexuality. Simply put, the more anti-homosexual one is, the strong their urge to be homosexual.”
Wow if we go by that logic, the more guns we own, we should be serial killers, the more cars we own, we should be driving in NASCAR events and the more children we have we should run orphanages
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#34 Mar 1, 2013
Cfoote wrote:
<quoted text>
So by a 5-4 vote this squeaked by at the Federal Level.. Hmm last I looked 33 states still have the death penalty.. Wow just like the same number of states with amendments banning SSM.. Sorry the Constitution no where says marriage is a right. A right needs no permisssion. No permission needed in the right to remain silent, With marriage you need permission from the state, thus not a right at all. The SCOTUS will let this go back to the states, they aren't going to religion, or marriage that results in children, they will vote is marriage a right for either hetro or homosexuals and its not
Considering SCOTUS has ruled several times that marriage is a civil right, you may wish to re-evaluate your statement. If it comes down to you or SCOTUS, I'll believe SCOTUS. Their rulings are law, yours are not.
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#35 Mar 1, 2013
Cfoote wrote:
<quoted text> Wow if we go by that logic, the more guns we own, we should be serial killers, the more cars we own, we should be driving in NASCAR events and the more children we have we should run orphanages
Not too good at making cogent analogies, are ya?
Pok Guy

Plymouth, MN

#36 Mar 1, 2013
Cfoote wrote:
<quoted text> Wow if we go by that logic, the more guns we own, we should be serial killers, the more cars we own, we should be driving in NASCAR events and the more children we have we should run orphanages
No. All they’re saying is that suppressing what one believes to be “bad” will just pop up somewhere else, typically, as behavior to over compensate for the suppressed feelings.

To use a less controversial example, freighted individuals over compensate for their lack of courage by turning into thugs, or more constructively, into courageous individuals.

Your examples, I’m afraid, don’t make any sense. Is that what passes for logic on Venus?
Pok Guy

Plymouth, MN

#37 Mar 1, 2013
Cfoote wrote:
<quoted text>
So by a 5-4 vote this squeaked by at the Federal Level.. Hmm last I looked 33 states still have the death penalty.. Wow just like the same number of states with amendments banning SSM.. Sorry the Constitution no where says marriage is a right. A right needs no permisssion. No permission needed in the right to remain silent, With marriage you need permission from the state, thus not a right at all. The SCOTUS will let this go back to the states, they aren't going to religion, or marriage that results in children, they will vote is marriage a right for either hetro or homosexuals and its not
“A right needs no permission.” Really? Try holding a parade—exercise of 1st Amen--at rush hour in any major city, or shouting “fire”—exercise of 1st Amen—in a crowded theater. Or, more relevantly, one can get married without a state’s permission, as in common law states or as the Supreme Ct has ruled, one cannot otherwise be denied the right to marriage. In fact, that’s what the whole argument is about.

A legal scholar you are not.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#38 Mar 1, 2013
Cfoote wrote:
Here is an idea.. Obama stay out of it. Major Corporations stay out of it.. GOP and DEMS.. stay out of it. Hollywood stay out of it...
Supreme Court. listen to what 33 states have said.. and that is NO
Uphold Prop 8 and the voice of the people. Stop believing that the "vast Majority" of America wants gay marriage.. It doesn't , if it did there would not be 33 states with laws and amendments banning it.
State legislators stop forcing it down your voters throats and not allow thme to speak via referrendum
Let get back to what the Preamble says "We the People"
Not a select few, or a minority.
While not the best reference this applies:
Spock's dying words"
"The needs of the MANY outweigh the needs of the Few"
Kirk "or the One"
The many have spoken in 33 states
The court is going to go by the constitution and none of the things you have mentioned. If SCOTUS always went by popular vote then segregation would have been legal for a few more decades and so would bans on interracial marriage and women would still lack rights. SCOTUS has to be free of the influence of the people and politicians when making their decisions.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#39 Mar 1, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Dear, you really should have paid better attention in 8th grade Civics when you were taught what the role of the Supreme Court is. It isn't their job to listen to the states, their job is to listen to the Constitution and if the states have done something which violates even one individual's constitutional rights, what the states have done cannot be allowed to stand. When the Supreme Court essentially overturned the death penalty in 1972 in Furman v Georgia, the Court told the 49 states with such a law on the books, they had gotten it wrong. Thanks for playing, but I suggest you start working on your coping skills. Lesbians and gays will soon have equality in marriage in every state, maybe as soon as June of this year, whether you or the states agree or not.
Rick, while I agree with you in this reply to that person I have to say while I'm optimistic the court will rule in our favor I'm not getting my hopes up either. I have absolutely no idea how SCOTUS will rule on this issue and if it will be on just Prop. 8 and also DOMA and also the issue of same-sex marriage itself. I haven't forgotten that it is a conservative slanted court and that if they don't rule in our favor we may have to wait decades for a ruling in our favor but hopefully by that time that the people would strike DOMA down without the help of the court, the people will be more fair minded in the near future with the new generations in power.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#40 Mar 1, 2013
Cfoote wrote:
<quoted text>
So by a 5-4 vote this squeaked by at the Federal Level.. Hmm last I looked 33 states still have the death penalty.. Wow just like the same number of states with amendments banning SSM.. Sorry the Constitution no where says marriage is a right. A right needs no permisssion. No permission needed in the right to remain silent, With marriage you need permission from the state, thus not a right at all. The SCOTUS will let this go back to the states, they aren't going to religion, or marriage that results in children, they will vote is marriage a right for either hetro or homosexuals and its not
Even if marriage isn't a right which it has been ruled a constitutional right by supreme courts in the past there is the full faith and credit clause. I don't know how all the laws work but if marriage rights are given to opposite sex couples they may legally have to be given to same-sex couples too. What if laws were passed that only lesbian couples could marry and not straight or male-male couples? Do you think that would fly long especially when it discriminates on both gender and sexual orientation? There are a lot of things not mentioned in the constitution but that doesn't mean they cannot be interpreted as civil rights.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#41 Mar 1, 2013
Cfoote wrote:
Here is an idea.. Obama stay out of it. Major Corporations stay out of it.. GOP and DEMS.. stay out of it. Hollywood stay out of it...
Supreme Court. listen to what 33 states have said.. and that is NO
Uphold Prop 8 and the voice of the people. Stop believing that the "vast Majority" of America wants gay marriage.. It doesn't , if it did there would not be 33 states with laws and amendments banning it.
State legislators stop forcing it down your voters throats and not allow thme to speak via referrendum
Let get back to what the Preamble says "We the People"
Not a select few, or a minority.
While not the best reference this applies:
Spock's dying words"
"The needs of the MANY outweigh the needs of the Few"
Kirk "or the One"
The many have spoken in 33 states
How is it a need to deny another couple the right to marry? How does that affect other marriages? There are checks and balances. There has to be in order to keep minorities from becoming victims of tyranny of the majority. If the majority gets to put civil rights up to a popular vote no one would have any rights and what would be the purpose of having the United States Supreme Court.

“The Sky Is Falling!”

Since: Apr 07

Chicago, IL

#42 Mar 1, 2013
King Rodman wrote:
<quoted text>
do U hacking into Bill Gay softwear PC!! ;-00
HanANNOYING.

Uve

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#43 Mar 1, 2013
Cfoote wrote:
Here is an idea.. Obama stay out of it. Major Corporations stay out of it.. GOP and DEMS.. stay out of it. Hollywood stay out of it...
Supreme Court. listen to what 33 states have said.. and that is NO
Uphold Prop 8 and the voice of the people. Stop believing that the "vast Majority" of America wants gay marriage.. It doesn't , if it did there would not be 33 states with laws and amendments banning it.
State legislators stop forcing it down your voters throats and not allow thme to speak via referrendum
Let get back to what the Preamble says "We the People"
Not a select few, or a minority.
While not the best reference this applies:
Spock's dying words"
"The needs of the MANY outweigh the needs of the Few"
Kirk "or the One"
The many have spoken in 33 states
You watch too much TV..I know moron, let's put your marriage up for a vote. Then we'll see how you feel about the 'needs of the many' POS

Uve

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#44 Mar 1, 2013
Cfoote wrote:
<quoted text> Wow if we go by that logic, the more guns we own, we should be serial killers, the more cars we own, we should be driving in NASCAR events and the more children we have we should run orphanages
Actually, that is whats happening..There are MORE serial killers, there are More orphans and if you drive in LA you ARE driving in NASCAR....

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