Federal shutdown staring to ripple th...

Federal shutdown staring to ripple through states

There are 65 comments on the WBTV story from Oct 12, 2013, titled Federal shutdown staring to ripple through states. In it, WBTV reports that:

The federal government shutdown that has idled hundreds of thousands of workers is starting to ripple through states, which are now laying off employees and warning of thousands of additional furloughs if the budget stalemate is not resolved soon.

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SGT Rock101

Harvey, LA

#49 Oct 15, 2013
That's their stated goals. Much like mom, apple pie, and the girl I left behind. EVERYBODY believes that stuff. It's the unstated goals they harbor of anarchy, racism, bigotry, a return to 1783 mentality and a free lunch for the TEA Party members. Instead of dropping off the grid like so many millions of others that want what they state, they seek to impose their childish views on others. Does that help answer your question of who are they from an independent verifiable viewpoint?
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
You give the Tea Party so much free publicity.[no such thing as 'bad' publicity]
Many know that T.E.A. stands for Taxed Enough Already. That's about all I knew about them.
You ranting about them so much caused me to look into this 'bad a*s' party.
"The Tea Party Movement is a grassroots movement of millions of like-­&#8208;minded Americans from all backgrounds. Tea Party members share similar core principles supporting the United States Constitution as the Founders intended, such as:
&#9632;Limited Federal Government
&#9632;Individual freedoms
&#9632;Personal responsibility
&#9632;Free markets
&#9632;Returning political power to the states and the people
http://www.theteaparty.net/about/
Seems un-American to be so nasty to a group that seems to want to make the country better.
Thanks for all the publicity, Patticakes!!
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#50 Oct 15, 2013
SGT Rock101 wrote:
That's their stated goals. Much like mom, apple pie, and the girl I left behind. EVERYBODY believes that stuff. It's the unstated goals they harbor of anarchy, racism, bigotry, a return to 1783 mentality and a free lunch for the TEA Party members. Instead of dropping off the grid like so many millions of others that want what they state, they seek to impose their childish views on others. Does that help answer your question of who are they from an independent verifiable viewpoint?<quoted text>
I had no idea the TEA Party was like that (anarchy, racism, bigotry).

Which people in Congress support the Tea Party?
sam the ripper

Jeannette, PA

#51 Oct 15, 2013
SO WHO CARES .when sam garnishes everybody saving accounts to pay the bills. then maybe the real meaning of "MEANS TESTED"will sink in...but fools and idiots cant see past why "THE I.R.S. will be running health care.its all about ability TO PAY.
Splitsville

Philadelphia, PA

#53 Oct 15, 2013
If the Federal Government shutdown continues through the month of October, then states, both blue and red, should seriously consider the unthinkable---secession.
SGT Rock101

Harvey, LA

#54 Oct 15, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
I had no idea the TEA Party was like that (anarchy, racism, bigotry).
Which people in Congress support the Tea Party?
To start, the entire Louisiana and Mississippi delegation save two.
SGT Rock101

Harvey, LA

#55 Oct 15, 2013
Splitsville wrote:
If the Federal Government shutdown continues through the month of October, then states, both blue and red, should seriously consider the unthinkable---secession.
That issue tried and failed with the death of over 600,000 lives and millions wounded.
Bigfoot

United States

#56 Oct 16, 2013
If a company can't pay it's bills, shouldn't it shut down ?
If our governmaent would pay it's bills and make cuts that it can't afford, we wouldn't be in this situation. People say we need all these programs. Maybe so; If we can't afford them, you can't have them.
Can't have ice cream with your cake, because you can't afford it, matter of fact you could probably do without the cake too. We need to learn to be alittle less dependent on the government for our personal needs.
Don Joe

Saint Paul, MN

#57 Oct 16, 2013
Bigfoot wrote:
If a company can't pay it's bills, shouldn't it shut down ?
If our governmaent would pay it's bills and make cuts that it can't afford, we wouldn't be in this situation. People say we need all these programs. Maybe so; If we can't afford them, you can't have them.
Can't have ice cream with your cake, because you can't afford it, matter of fact you could probably do without the cake too. We need to learn to be alittle less dependent on the government for our personal needs.
There is indeed a big part of the problem. I would suggest that most people on both the right and the left would dramatically cut spending if allowed to pick which programs should be cut. For example, you suggest people should not rely on the government to help with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, because as you say, they should not be dependent for personal needs. I on the other hand see no need to spend 17 times more on the military than the rest of the world combined. I don't know why I am taxed to pay for military bases in countries where we have no business being. From my point of view, you are asking people not to eat so you can have more guns than anyone else in the world. In the past this debate has been referred to as guns or butter.

The big problem from my perspective is we have lobbyists from corporations making guns (and other weapons) who donate to make sure their "candidate" wins, then they hire lobbyists to write the laws. They own the media and design it to scare the populace into thinking guns are more important that butter. They walk away with billions of our dollars and you then suggest people should not be allowed to eat cake.
Bigfoot

United States

#58 Oct 16, 2013
Don Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
There is indeed a big part of the problem. I would suggest that most people on both the right and the left would dramatically cut spending if allowed to pick which programs should be cut. For example, you suggest people should not rely on the government to help with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, because as you say, they should not be dependent for personal needs. I on the other hand see no need to spend 17 times more on the military than the rest of the world combined. I don't know why I am taxed to pay for military bases in countries where we have no business being. From my point of view, you are asking people not to eat so you can have more guns than anyone else in the world. In the past this debate has been referred to as guns or butter.
The big problem from my perspective is we have lobbyists from corporations making guns (and other weapons) who donate to make sure their "candidate" wins, then they hire lobbyists to write the laws. They own the media and design it to scare the populace into thinking guns are more important that butter. They walk away with billions of our dollars and you then suggest people should not be allowed to eat cake.
I didn't suggest pepole should not be allowed to eat cake. Learn to read and understand. While your at it, teach Pelosi too. If you can't afford it don't buy it. My tax dollars shouldn't be spent on people spending money on something they don't need. Cake was just an example like your guns and that butter.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#59 Oct 16, 2013
Splitsville wrote:
If the Federal Government shutdown continues through the month of October, then states, both blue and red, should seriously consider the unthinkable---secession.
That was already tried. You didn't learn much history in your one room inbred schoolhouse.
Splitsville

Berwyn, PA

#60 Oct 16, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>That was already tried. You didn't learn much history in your one room inbred schoolhouse.
That was over 150 years ago over various issues, but a non-functioning Federal Government was NOT one of them.
Don Joe

Saint Paul, MN

#62 Oct 16, 2013
Bigfoot wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't suggest pepole should not be allowed to eat cake. Learn to read and understand. While your at it, teach Pelosi too. If you can't afford it don't buy it. My tax dollars shouldn't be spent on people spending money on something they don't need. Cake was just an example like your guns and that butter.
Your cake comments are much like Marie Antoinette in instigation of the French revolution, "Let them eat cake." It shows the same callousness to the needs of others.

As to Pelosi, for her refusal to even allow minor investigations into the rampant criminality of the bush administration, she should be considered complicit in his crimes and should go to prison along with bush.

So if you didn't mean they shouldn't be allowed, then do you oppose the robber barons and their stealing everything? Do you oppose those who help set up the system where the fruit of all labor goes to a few families, and everyone else is moving to abject poverty? When in poverty, how do you get cake?

So are you serious about solving the debt problem, or just parroting the republican talking points with no serious attempt at solving the problem, instead using it to do damage to others so you can feel better about yourself?

“My Commander-in-Chi ef!”

Since: Jun 07

Obama got Osama!

#63 Oct 16, 2013
WE WON!!!!!!!!!!

Obama is smarter and his will is stronger than the tea-baggers.

NEVER BET AGAINST BLACK!

IT WAS A COMPLETE SURRENDER BY THE RIGHT…
Justin

United States

#65 Oct 16, 2013
Bank Of China wrote:
WE WON!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is smarter and his will is stronger than the tea-baggers.
NEVER BET AGAINST BLACK!
IT WAS A COMPLETE SURRENDER BY THE RIGHT…
Eventually we'll reach the point where the United States government will no longer be extended a line of credit to fund our yearly $1,000 Billion budget deficits.

Then who will have the last laugh: the Right, the Left, Social Security Recipients, China ...?

It will be dooms day for everyone involved.

Yea! The park is open again. Yea! Yea!

Let's go visit the Lincoln memorial and tell him the good news:
WE CAN BORROW AGAIN!!! THANK GOD AND BARACK OBAMA!!!
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#66 Oct 16, 2013
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
WE WON!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is smarter and his will is stronger than the tea-baggers.
NEVER BET AGAINST BLACK!
IT WAS A COMPLETE SURRENDER BY THE RIGHT…
Its was/is never about betting against a black. Believe me, I knew enough that gambled much of their weekly salaries quite often therefore betting against themselves. Of course this was my experience and not what others have had. Its about trusting a person. Not betting on him. How about a tax cut and/or tax rebate. Come on. Be for the people like you always promote. Can't do that. Special interests come first. So people will join the special interests.
SGT Rock101

Harvey, LA

#67 Oct 16, 2013
Obama killed America wrote:
<quoted text>He ain't black. He is a mulatto. Half honkey and all donkey.
Apparently the part that's black just pooped all over you.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#68 Oct 17, 2013
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
WE WON!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is smarter and his will is stronger than the tea-baggers.
NEVER BET AGAINST BLACK!
IT WAS A COMPLETE SURRENDER BY THE RIGHT…
America loses!!

The burden of debt being carried by the government is UNSUSTAINABLE.

The government needs to cut back on spending!!

No one bothered talking about the GIAGANTIC DEBT elephant in the room!
Hey

Huntsville, AL

#69 Oct 17, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
America loses!!
The burden of debt being carried by the government is UNSUSTAINABLE.
The government needs to cut back on spending!!
No one bothered talking about the GIAGANTIC DEBT elephant in the room!
dope, default would have immediately raised the actual debt. Our was mostly caused by putting 2 wars on the credit card while giving tax cuts to the rich. Debt was also increased by the economic impact of the teabaggers shutdown and the job losses and reduction in economic activity caused by the sequester cuts. At this point we need economic activity and a targeted plan to deal with debt in the long-term - not stupid slogans, extreme cuts and brinkmanship.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#70 Oct 17, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
dope, default would have immediately raised the actual debt. Our was mostly caused by putting 2 wars on the credit card while giving tax cuts to the rich. Debt was also increased by the economic impact of the teabaggers shutdown and the job losses and reduction in economic activity caused by the sequester cuts. At this point we need economic activity and a targeted plan to deal with debt in the long-term - not stupid slogans, extreme cuts and brinkmanship.
That is correct.

The actual SIZE of the debt needs to be addressed in a RESPONSIBLE manner.

We need to stop POINTING fingers at each party.

We need to point the finger at CONGRESS and say, let's get our FINANCIAL HOUSE IN ORDER!!

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#71 Oct 17, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
dope, default would have immediately raised the actual debt. Our was mostly caused by putting 2 wars on the credit card while giving tax cuts to the rich. Debt was also increased by the economic impact of the teabaggers shutdown and the job losses and reduction in economic activity caused by the sequester cuts. At this point we need economic activity and a targeted plan to deal with debt in the long-term - not stupid slogans, extreme cuts and brinkmanship.
too true.. Now we will see if the republican party and the House Speaker has learned anything from this debacle. If not then we will have a repeat of this insanity.

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