Obama, GOP Each Pitch to Business

Dec 5, 2012 Full story: Wall Street Journal 41

President Obama addresses big-company CEOs on Wednesday in Washington to promote a tax-rate increase as part of the fiscal-cliff negotiations.

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realist

Greensboro, NC

#24 Dec 7, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Let's do it first...then we'll see.....
Would you also supply alcohol to a alcoholic ? Same deal, Give the liberal govt. a little and as everyone knows it will not be and never will be enough to satisfy the liberal need. Obama knows it will just be a very little, little bit of what he needs to fund his fairness programs. Next, he will be coming after the middle class since that was his goal from the get go.
Ratliff

Orlando, FL

#25 Dec 7, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Your lying home boy is playing games with million of peoples peace of mind and bank accounts.
McConnell Offers To Vote On Obama's Fiscal Cliff Plan, Reid Objects...sure, Obama wants the cliff. It's what his first four years was all about. Distruction.
The dumber the state the more likely they are a red state. On the other hand, Obama won Florida which has only 23% college graduates.
"According to a state-by-state breakdown by the Census Bureau, here are the top 15 states with the best college completion rates as of 2010. All of them have at least 43 percent of its young residents holding a college degree, but only two states have over 50 percent. D.C., which was included in the study, beat out all of the states with an impressive 68.8 percent.
Blue - Massachusetts 54.3% of the population
Red - North Dakota 50.8% of the population
Blue - Minnesota 49.8% of the population
Blue - New York 49.6% of the population 47.2% of the population
Blue - New Jersey 47.2% of the population
Blue - New Hampshire 46.0% of the population
Blue - Connecticut 45.9% of the population
Blue - Iowa 45.5% of the population
Blue - Maryland 45.5% of the population
Blue- llinois 45.3% of the population
Blue - Virginia 44.6% of the population
Blue - Vermont 44.5% of the population
Red - Nebraska 44.2% of the population
Blue - Pennsylvania 43.9% of the population"
So out of the fifteen states with the highest percentages of college graduates, twelve voted for Obama. And as for the nonsense some have proposed about liberalism being "cyclical", republicans have gotten the majority of the white vote in every presidential race since 1964.

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#26 Dec 7, 2012
The Battling Boys of Benghazi
.
We're the Battling Boys of Benghazi,
no fame, no glory, no paparazzi.
Just a fiery death in a blazing hell,
defending the country we loved so well.
.
It wasn't our job but we answered the call,
fought to the consulate, and scaled the wall.
We pulled twenty countrymen from the jaws of fate,
Led them to safety, and stood at the gate.
.
Just the two of us, and foes by the score,
but we stood fast to bar the door.
Three calls for reinforcement, but all were denied,
So we fought and we fought, and we fought till we died.
.
But we gave our all for Uncle Sam,
but Barack Obama didn't give a damn.
Just two dead SEALs, who carried the load,
no thanks to us, we're just "bumps in the road."
realist

Greensboro, NC

#27 Dec 8, 2012
Ratliff wrote:
<quoted text>
The dumber the state the more likely they are a red state. On the other hand, Obama won Florida which has only 23% college graduates.
"According to a state-by-state breakdown by the Census Bureau, here are the top 15 states with the best college completion rates as of 2010. All of them have at least 43 percent of its young residents holding a college degree, but only two states have over 50 percent. D.C., which was included in the study, beat out all of the states with an impressive 68.8 percent.
Blue - Massachusetts 54.3% of the population
Red - North Dakota 50.8% of the population
Blue - Minnesota 49.8% of the population
Blue - New York 49.6% of the population 47.2% of the population
Blue - New Jersey 47.2% of the population
Blue - New Hampshire 46.0% of the population
Blue - Connecticut 45.9% of the population
Blue - Iowa 45.5% of the population
Blue - Maryland 45.5% of the population
Blue- llinois 45.3% of the population
Blue - Virginia 44.6% of the population
Blue - Vermont 44.5% of the population
Red - Nebraska 44.2% of the population
Blue - Pennsylvania 43.9% of the population"
So out of the fifteen states with the highest percentages of college graduates, twelve voted for Obama. And as for the nonsense some have proposed about liberalism being "cyclical", republicans have gotten the majority of the white vote in every presidential race since 1964.
Oh my, stats are something to behold especially when key data is left out to make them more revealing. Try placing minority population and union membership ratios within those states and you might find another interesting stat. In which states exist the greatest number of union and minorities ? It's a given that the minority population in the south definitely skews the educational level since the drop out rate from the educational system is extremely high among that segment.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#28 Dec 8, 2012
RACISM, alive and well in Greensboro, NC.....

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#29 Dec 8, 2012
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Business now sides with President Obama. They realize that the path the President is taking is not only good for the country but it is good for business as well. Just like the military strongly supporting their Commander-in-Chief during the campaign, the business community came around and gave money to Obama as they rebuked the GOP.
Is that why we are having to borrow 4.6 billion a day, so he can go on his four million dollar outing and continue to campaign. He don't have the balls to take the hard questions with out his training wheels.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#30 Dec 8, 2012
Ratliff wrote:
<quoted text>
The dumber the state the more likely they are a red state. On the other hand, Obama won Florida which has only 23% college graduates.
"According to a state-by-state breakdown by the Census Bureau, here are the top 15 states with the best college completion rates as of 2010. All of them have at least 43 percent of its young residents holding a college degree, but only two states have over 50 percent. D.C., which was included in the study, beat out all of the states with an impressive 68.8 percent.
Blue - Massachusetts 54.3% of the population
Red - North Dakota 50.8% of the population
Blue - Minnesota 49.8% of the population
Blue - New York 49.6% of the population 47.2% of the population
Blue - New Jersey 47.2% of the population
Blue - New Hampshire 46.0% of the population
Blue - Connecticut 45.9% of the population
Blue - Iowa 45.5% of the population
Blue - Maryland 45.5% of the population
Blue- llinois 45.3% of the population
Blue - Virginia 44.6% of the population
Blue - Vermont 44.5% of the population
Red - Nebraska 44.2% of the population
Blue - Pennsylvania 43.9% of the population"
So out of the fifteen states with the highest percentages of college graduates, twelve voted for Obama. And as for the nonsense some have proposed about liberalism being "cyclical", republicans have gotten the majority of the white vote in every presidential race since 1964.
You must get your satistics the same place Obama does for unemployment. Fuzzy math won't convenience your gerbil pookie.
realist

Greensboro, NC

#31 Dec 8, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
RACISM, alive and well in Greensboro, NC.....
Nope, that's not racism. The truth is the second largest minority populations has the highest drop out rate in the educational system, the highest incarceration rate in the prison system, the highest number of children born in single parent homes, the highest number of children born out of wedlock, the largest percent drawing on social services, etc, etc,. Looks like pampering this segment of the population only increases the numbers that continues those negatives.
Want to debate the truth or do you want to continue your denials and claim it's due to racism ?

racism ?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#32 Dec 8, 2012
...Yeah, it's never you, is it?....lol.....
realist

Greensboro, NC

#33 Dec 8, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
...Yeah, it's never you, is it?....lol.....
Hey Blue, why are you afraid to address the issue of whether the black population is advancing or retreating under all the government programs that are designed to help those that want to get advance in life ? Do you think that the second largest minority population is better off today as being able to fend for themselves or still in need of massive govt. assistance ? Why are they more dependent today on the govt than four years ago ?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#34 Dec 8, 2012
I think the flawed social engineering that Section 8 housing has become, has actually done more harm than good to many areas of the country...I think, generational welfare has become a great burden for our society and it's taxpayers....I think forced busing was likely a mistake, and was partially responsible for the decline in our educational systems, compared to other countries....I think the foodstamp program has become filled with fraud, corruption and laziness, among the partisapants.....I think your claim of higher dependency, is only due to and resulting from the Bush recession, that started way before this administration.....and i believe...MUCH OF THE HATRED AND DIVISIVENESS DISPLAYED BY THOSE ON THE RIGHT, HAD IT'S ROOTS IN FOX AND PEOPLE LIKE LIMBAUGH, HANNITY AND BECK AND THE TEA PARTY HOUSE REPUBLICAN'S AND IS A VEILED RACIAL PROTEST AT THE FACT THAT A BLACK MAN WON THE PRESIDENCY...AND NOW TWICE, DESPITE CONGRESSIONAL OBSTRUCTION, SO BAD...THAT SOME INSTIGATORS SHOULD BE HORSEWHIPPED......TO SAY THAT ALL THIS VENOMOUS PROTEST OF THIS PRESIDENT, ISN'T RACIST IS TO LIE, ENDLESSLY......
realist

Greensboro, NC

#37 Dec 8, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
I think the flawed social engineering that Section 8 housing has become, has actually done more harm than good to many areas of the country...I think, generational welfare has become a great burden for our society and it's taxpayers....I think forced busing was likely a mistake, and was partially responsible for the decline in our educational systems, compared to other countries....I think the foodstamp program has become filled with fraud, corruption and laziness, among the partisapants.....I think your claim of higher dependency, is only due to and resulting from the Bush recession, that started way before this administration.....and i believe...MUCH OF THE HATRED AND DIVISIVENESS DISPLAYED BY THOSE ON THE RIGHT, HAD IT'S ROOTS IN FOX AND PEOPLE LIKE LIMBAUGH, HANNITY AND BECK AND THE TEA PARTY HOUSE REPUBLICAN'S AND IS A VEILED RACIAL PROTEST AT THE FACT THAT A BLACK MAN WON THE PRESIDENCY...AND NOW TWICE, DESPITE CONGRESSIONAL OBSTRUCTION, SO BAD...THAT SOME INSTIGATORS SHOULD BE HORSEWHIPPED......TO SAY THAT ALL THIS VENOMOUS PROTEST OF THIS PRESIDENT, ISN'T RACIST IS TO LIE, ENDLESSLY......
I'm in agreement with a great deal of your comments. In disagreement with comments dealing with cause of increases in dependency. Yes, there is hate but it is a two way street. I don't see or believe it is a race issue but is employment driven. I detest lazy able to work people, but chose not to, regardless of race. Fox news or any of their people have nothing to do with shaping public opinion in dealing with day to day emotions. Obama being black has nothing to do with my dislike for his programs. Unemployment is high, debt is high, tensions are high all around the world, crime is rising, costs of social services are rising with no end in sight, etc, etc,.
Frankly, I cannot name one positive thing that has happened during his administration.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#38 Dec 9, 2012
..Osama Bin Laden....."Fox news or any of their people have nothing to do with shaping public opinion"...Quote of the Month....

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#40 Dec 9, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
I think the flawed social engineering that Section 8 housing has become, has actually done more harm than good to many areas of the country...I think, generational welfare has become a great burden for our society and it's taxpayers....I think forced busing was likely a mistake, and was partially responsible for the decline in our educational systems, compared to other countries....I think the foodstamp program has become filled with fraud, corruption and laziness, among the partisapants.....I think your claim of higher dependency, is only due to and resulting from the Bush recession, that started way before this administration.....and i believe...MUCH OF THE HATRED AND DIVISIVENESS DISPLAYED BY THOSE ON THE RIGHT, HAD IT'S ROOTS IN FOX AND PEOPLE LIKE LIMBAUGH, HANNITY AND BECK AND THE TEA PARTY HOUSE REPUBLICAN'S AND IS A VEILED RACIAL PROTEST AT THE FACT THAT A BLACK MAN WON THE PRESIDENCY...AND NOW TWICE, DESPITE CONGRESSIONAL OBSTRUCTION, SO BAD...THAT SOME INSTIGATORS SHOULD BE HORSEWHIPPED......TO SAY THAT ALL THIS VENOMOUS PROTEST OF THIS PRESIDENT, ISN'T RACIST IS TO LIE, ENDLESSLY......
Since the right gave you freedom in the first place and the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Act, list for us all the Divisiveness you claim. Get off the plantation and off your ass and take your culture of coruption and improve it or get the f--k out and go back to Africa.
conservative crapola

Allentown, PA

#41 Dec 9, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
Suggest you take your anti-American, teabooger ass back to the french-socialist embarrassment called france, lejimfraud. You're probably in exile. Wait until we ship your common ass back for you, teabooger.

hahahahahahahahahaha
realist

Greensboro, NC

#42 Dec 9, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
..Osama Bin Laden....."Fox news or any of their people have nothing to do with shaping public opinion"...Quote of the Month....
Yes, I watch Fox news and are able to listen to both liberals and conservatives present their talking points since they are given the opportunity to do so. I suspect that the majority of those that dislike the news programs are upset because they do provide both sides, and since they do not want to hear any comments that are opposite to their deeply held opinions.
Obama really had little to do with the death of Bin Laden, even thought he is taking credit away from the soldiers that were in the line of fire.
Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#44 Dec 10, 2012
realist wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I watch Fox news and are able to listen to both liberals and conservatives present their talking points since they are given the opportunity to do so. I suspect that the majority of those that dislike the news programs are upset because they do provide both sides, and since they do not want to hear any comments that are opposite to their deeply held opinions.
Obama really had little to do with the death of Bin Laden, even thought he is taking credit away from the soldiers that were in the line of fire.
LOL, actually defending Fox News? Let me give you a clue, there are no liberal points of view ever presented on Fox. Those who watch Fox end up knowing less about what is going on that those who know nothing, because those who know nothing are less misinformed.

One major problem watching Fox is that they have a great many buried assumptions. While they are open about lying to the public, they often bury the lies so that they become part of what you think you know, without ever being said.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#45 Dec 10, 2012
Don Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, actually defending Fox News? Let me give you a clue, there are no liberal points of view ever presented on Fox. Those who watch Fox end up knowing less about what is going on that those who know nothing, because those who know nothing are less misinformed.
One major problem watching Fox is that they have a great many buried assumptions. While they are open about lying to the public, they often bury the lies so that they become part of what you think you know, without ever being said.
Plus, we are beginning to see that the more intelligent in the GOP, are starting to weigh, whether Fox has had a positive or negative effect on their supporters...American's distaste for Fox's playing up the negativity over the tragedy in Benghazi, over the last two weeks of the campaign, in addition to the combonation of the President's quick response to Hurricane Sandy, along with Romney's insistance on not conceding he lied about Jeep and China...might have, very well tipped the balance....it certainly negated any momentum, Romney may have had....
Ratliff

Orlando, FL

#46 Dec 10, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Your lying home boy is playing games with million of peoples peace of mind and bank accounts.
McConnell Offers To Vote On Obama's Fiscal Cliff Plan, Reid Objects...sure, Obama wants the cliff. It's what his first four years was all about. Distruction.
Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives
Liberals think they’re more intelligent than conservatives because they are

It is difficult to define a whole school of political ideology precisely, but one may reasonably define liberalism (as opposed to conservatism) in the contemporary United States as the genuine concern for the welfare of genetically unrelated others and the willingness to contribute larger proportions of private resources for the welfare of such others. In the modern political and economic context, this willingness usually translates into paying higher proportions of individual incomes in taxes toward the government and its social welfare programs. Liberals usually support such social welfare programs and higher taxes to finance them, and conservatives usually oppose them.

Defined as such, liberalism is evolutionarily novel. Humans (like other species) are evolutionarily designed to be altruistic toward their genetic kin, their friends and allies, and members of their deme (a group of intermarrying individuals) or ethnic group. They are not designed to be altruistic toward an indefinite number of complete strangers whom they are not likely ever to meet or interact with. This is largely because our ancestors lived in a small band of 50-150 genetically related individuals, and large cities and nations with thousands and millions of people are themselves evolutionarily novel.

The examination of the 10-volume compendium The Encyclopedia of World Cultures, which describes all human cultures known to anthropology (more than 1,500) in great detail, as well as extensive primary ethnographies of traditional societies, reveals that liberalism as defined above is absent in these traditional cultures. While sharing of resources, especially food, is quite common and often mandatory among hunter-gatherer tribes, and while trade with neighboring tribes often takes place, there is no evidence that people in contemporary hunter-gatherer bands freely share resources with members of other tribes.

Because all members of a hunter-gatherer tribe are genetic kin or at the very least friends and allies for life, sharing resources among them does not qualify as an expression of liberalism as defined above. Given its absence in the contemporary hunter-gatherer tribes, which are often used as modern-day analogs of our ancestral life, it may be reasonable to infer that sharing of resources with total strangers that one has never met or is not likely ever to meet – that is, liberalism – was not part of our ancestral life. Liberalism may therefore be evolutionarily novel, and the Hypothesis would predict that more intelligent individuals are more likely than less intelligent individuals to espouse liberalism as a value.

Analyses of large representative samples, from both the United States and the United Kingdom, confirm this prediction. In both countries, more intelligent children are more likely to grow up to be liberals than less intelligent children. For example, among the American sample, those who identify themselves as “very liberal” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 106.4, whereas those who identify themselves as “very conservative” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 94.8.
Ratliff

Orlando, FL

#47 Dec 10, 2012
realist wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I watch Fox news and are able to listen to both liberals and conservatives present their talking points since they are given the opportunity to do so. I suspect that the majority of those that dislike the news programs are upset because they do provide both sides, and since they do not want to hear any comments that are opposite to their deeply held opinions.
Obama really had little to do with the death of Bin Laden, even thought he is taking credit away from the soldiers that were in the line of fire.
Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives
Liberals think they’re more intelligent than conservatives because they are

It is difficult to define a whole school of political ideology precisely, but one may reasonably define liberalism (as opposed to conservatism) in the contemporary United States as the genuine concern for the welfare of genetically unrelated others and the willingness to contribute larger proportions of private resources for the welfare of such others. In the modern political and economic context, this willingness usually translates into paying higher proportions of individual incomes in taxes toward the government and its social welfare programs. Liberals usually support such social welfare programs and higher taxes to finance them, and conservatives usually oppose them.

Defined as such, liberalism is evolutionarily novel. Humans (like other species) are evolutionarily designed to be altruistic toward their genetic kin, their friends and allies, and members of their deme (a group of intermarrying individuals) or ethnic group. They are not designed to be altruistic toward an indefinite number of complete strangers whom they are not likely ever to meet or interact with. This is largely because our ancestors lived in a small band of 50-150 genetically related individuals, and large cities and nations with thousands and millions of people are themselves evolutionarily novel.

The examination of the 10-volume compendium The Encyclopedia of World Cultures, which describes all human cultures known to anthropology (more than 1,500) in great detail, as well as extensive primary ethnographies of traditional societies, reveals that liberalism as defined above is absent in these traditional cultures. While sharing of resources, especially food, is quite common and often mandatory among hunter-gatherer tribes, and while trade with neighboring tribes often takes place, there is no evidence that people in contemporary hunter-gatherer bands freely share resources with members of other tribes.

Because all members of a hunter-gatherer tribe are genetic kin or at the very least friends and allies for life, sharing resources among them does not qualify as an expression of liberalism as defined above. Given its absence in the contemporary hunter-gatherer tribes, which are often used as modern-day analogs of our ancestral life, it may be reasonable to infer that sharing of resources with total strangers that one has never met or is not likely ever to meet – that is, liberalism – was not part of our ancestral life. Liberalism may therefore be evolutionarily novel, and the Hypothesis would predict that more intelligent individuals are more likely than less intelligent individuals to espouse liberalism as a value.

Analyses of large representative samples, from both the United States and the United Kingdom, confirm this prediction. In both countries, more intelligent children are more likely to grow up to be liberals than less intelligent children. For example, among the American sample, those who identify themselves as “very liberal” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 106.4, whereas those who identify themselves as “very conservative” in early adulthood have a mean childhood IQ of 94.8.

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