Veteran LIRR official arrested in pen...

Veteran LIRR official arrested in pension scandal

There are 13 comments on the Newsday story from Nov 18, 2008, titled Veteran LIRR official arrested in pension scandal. In it, Newsday reports that:

A veteran Long Island Rail Road official was arrested yesterday on charges of illegally helping employees to obtain disability pensions, according to state Attorney General Andrew Cuomo.

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#2 Nov 18, 2008
Ethics training for all empoloyees. Hahaha. I mean really, only 90% are collecting disability, and some of those must be legitimate...so maybe ethics training for 80%. Listen, they knew it was wrong and did it anyway. Train all you want, you can't teach morality to grown up people. They're fully formed and chose to steal.
Michael

Pleasanton, CA

#3 Nov 18, 2008
I have read several times of people being sentenced to 4 years in jail for workers compensation fraud on Long Island in other jobs that were not connected to the LIRR.
So why not at least 4 years in jail in these cases also? To be able to retire at 50 years old with full free medical insurance coverage and free riding for life on the LIRR and then also get about 8 thousand a month or more with some of it tax free is better than winning the Lotto and that is what all those LIRR retirees who committed fraud are now getting. They should all be investigated and prosecuted if and when it is proven to be fraud.

Also, we must not forget about the scamming of AFLAC insurance which paid all their expenses for their phony disability such as but not limited to credit card payments, car loans, mortgage, etc. Since AFLAC does not seem to care, this should still be investigated.

They paid people to fill out their forms and then had one of 5 doctors rubberstamp their phony disability.
They made sure they had private disability insurance to get even more money for their fraud.
Anybody doubting any of this should go back and read all the newsapaper articles on the NY Times and Newsday websites links to all those articles
over the last few months about the LIRR and all the fraud and corruption there.
Louie

Pleasanton, CA

#4 Nov 18, 2008
Please Spare Me wrote:
Ethics training for all empoloyees. Hahaha. I mean really, only 90% are collecting disability, and some of those must be legitimate...so maybe ethics training for 80%. Listen, they knew it was wrong and did it anyway. Train all you want, you can't teach morality to grown up people. They're fully formed and chose to steal.
98% not 90% chose to commit fraud and scam the system and make a fortune doing it retiring young
when they should still be working like the rest of us. Their excuse of "everybody else is doing it" is no excuse and they should be prosecuted if they committed fraud. Attorney General Cuomo should spare no expense in continuing to investigate this and prosecute where fraud existed
just like any other fraud is prosecuted.
Blame New York State

Newark, NJ

#5 Nov 21, 2008
The retired LIRR employees completed the Parks Dept. application and forwarded the required documentation. It was the New York State Dept of Parks that approved the applications.
Apparently, the State of New York was asleep at the switch, not the LIRR employees!
Frank

Pleasanton, CA

#6 Nov 21, 2008
Blame New York State wrote:
The retired LIRR employees completed the Parks Dept. application and forwarded the required documentation. It was the New York State Dept of Parks that approved the applications.
Apparently, the State of New York was asleep at the switch, not the LIRR employees!
I guess when somebody robs a store it is the stores fault and not the person that committed the crime.
Or better yet when there are hundreds or thousands of people robbing a store then it is still the stores fault for not having better security there. It is great to not blame the person who committed the crime if it happens to be you that did it or somebody you know, just blame somebody else.
Blame The Government

Newark, NJ

#8 Nov 21, 2008
No matter, what the newspapers, lawyers, and officals say, there is no fraud! Because of the different collective bargaining agreements, that are already, in place, some LIRR employees are able to retire as young as 50 years old. Once retired, they are then, eligible by FEDERAL LAW to apply for a Rail Road Retirement (RRB)Disability. The law requires them to be retired before they can apply. These rules and conditions are already, in place, and have been so for the last 50 years. It was the United States Government, not the LIRR employee, who established the occupational disability process for the benefit of retired rail road employees. The RRB approves a disability based on the LIRR's own job position descriptions and on the medical documentation(Xrays, MRI's, etc. supplied by the retired rail road employee.
So, blame the system, not the retired LIRR employees.
Hey, if you are jealous, maybe, you are simply working for the wrong employer! Go work for a railroad! Then, you, too, can work on the trains, and on the tracks, at all hours of the day and night, week day, weekend, holidays, in all kinds of weather conditions, and in all temperatures, and then, after twenty five-thirty years of being shaken, rattered and rolled around by moving equipment, you, too, will surely, be disabled! All your joints will be shot! And after dealing with "on time performance", the MTA, the LIRR's top management, the LIRR Commuter Council, and even some of the commuters, your nerves will be shot, too!
Attention Steve

Newark, NJ

#9 Nov 21, 2008
Yes, replace the conductors and then, you will see rapes, fights and mugging onboard. Conductors are not only there to collect tickets, but they are there to repair the trains enroute and for your security. They are there to keep the animals, in check.
The Law

Newark, NJ

#10 Nov 21, 2008
Who's stealing? Read "Blame The State and Blame The System."
The Law

Newark, NJ

#11 Nov 21, 2008
The LIRR employees followed the rules established by federal law. No laws were broken.
Louie

Newark, NJ

#12 Nov 21, 2008
If you want to retire young, go work for a railroader. No one is making you work for your current employer.
Stevie

Newark, NJ

#13 Nov 21, 2008
Without train conductors, remember, once you leave Penn, Brooklyn or Jamaica, if your train suddenly dies on the track, nobody on your train and nobody on all the following trains on your same track, will get home, either!
justhefactsmaam

Wayne, NJ

#14 Nov 22, 2008
Commuter advocates care to know little about the subjects on which they commnet,and Mr. Bringmann is no exception. Mr. Krueder's job, for most of his career, was to council employees moving from employment to retiree. He was paid to help people get all the benefits to which they were entitled. That included management. The complicated contracts were mirrored by management on issues regarding pensions. The hippocrats at Newsday and other media outlets refer to these contracts as antiquated, although the contracts the media employees enjoy are just as confusing as those at the LIRR. It appears that Mr. Kreuder offered advice about what is required to obtain a RR disability. I find it interesting that on this very page I see advertisments for information about obtaining Social Security benefits. The only difference is Mr. Kreuder used his office computer to help his fellow worker. BIG DEAL. Ms. Williams and Mr. Cuomo are making a federal case out of almost nothing, and like sheep Mr. Bringmann is following along.....The one question I have for Mr. Bringmann is : Have you or any of your constituants ever used an office computer for something other than offical business?
Huh What

Marlboro, NJ

#15 Dec 23, 2008
f uck , f uck , f uck , f uck , f uck

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