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The days of easy credit are taking its toll on the most sacred of borrowers. Hundreds of churches are in foreclosure or fighting off foreclosure proceedings. Full Story
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E HOWARD

United States

#1 Feb 22, 2010
THESE CHURCHES NEED TO COMBINE AND POSSIBLY BEGAN FUNCTIONING LIKE AN MEGA CHURCH YOUR STRONGER TOGEHTER
A Nonymous

United States

#2 Feb 22, 2010
GREED is one of the 7 deadly sins; NO ONE is IMMUNE!!! I KNOW that one church was headed by a husband & wife whose MANSION looked bigger than the church itself!!!(it was SHOWCASED in a local magazine about a yr. or 2 ago) If the doors of the church have / are closing, do the pastor & 1st lady STILL live in the SAME museum - sized house??? What about their members who must SURELY be just that much closer to despair than ever; have they tried to help THEM?? A steady & vigorous display of wealth in the face of poor people you SWEAR you LOVE is VULGAR, & God WILL NOT be mocked!!
Happybooker

Senatobia, MS

#3 Feb 22, 2010
Why is it unChristian for the credit union to expect the churches to pay them like they promised they would?
ICE

Collierville, TN

#4 Feb 22, 2010
GOD WILL MAKE AWAY.
Kevin

Memphis, TN

#5 Feb 23, 2010
I saw the story and I feel for the members. The only thing I have seen the Non-Denominational Church do, is make the Pastor rich.

I can't feel sorry for Bill and Tonya Anderson because a large part of their income is about to fade away with the loss of his Church, or should I say his wife's Church...(Read on)...I'm sure it was a good ride while it lasted. I just hope she didn't put the Dental Practice up as collateral when Tonya Lyons-Anderson and Theodore Lyons signed for that $2.9 million dollar loan that the story is talking about, thats right Pastor Anderson didn't sign for that loan. He did sign for the $800,000 bond deal that was paid off, and he did secure a 1 million dollar loan that was refinanced in the 2.9 million dollar deal his wife signed for, and he and his wife did buy the $400,000 home in Collierville that they sold after they bought the $2.2 million dollar home they live in now in Germantown. See why I can't feel sorry for the Preacher Man living high on the hog off him members offerings. I know his wife has a good Dental Practice, but the Church was paying for most of their high living. I hope they had a plan B.
A Nonymous

United States

#6 Feb 23, 2010
VERY Enlightening Kevin! While I'm a firm beleiver that God's children CAN & SHOULD be prosperous, it should not be to the deficit of his OTHER children / the children He's placed under their care. I can't say that I feel sorry for them either. As far as dental practices go, doesn't unemployment & poverty affect health benefits? The math on THIS deal is KINDA scary....
Disgusted

Horn Lake, MS

#8 Feb 23, 2010
I think pastors often become ego and money driven. They make members feel guilty if they don't tithe. I've seen some of them in their expensive cars, and big houses. One guess who's paying for these things. It's average people who gave to the church before paying their mortgage or buying food for their families.
Investigate this Apostle

Cordova, TN

#9 Feb 23, 2010
Solid Rock Pastor is a joke and God is not happy with the lies. The bottom line is what did this man do with all the money? He needs to investigated by the bank as well as the IRS. If he was asked to present a list of the members that lost their jobs and stop tithing he could'nt do that, why, because he is lying, this man membership is the same with a very exceptions, none lost jobs and all continued to tithe, but where is the money? Pull those books and make some stuff happen, hold him accountable and don't let this man walk away and blame it on the economy. Solid Rock has now filed a Chapter 11 to restructure their loan, but if you are saying that the members don't have jobs to tithe then how are you going to pay the bankrupt note? There is a whole lot to this Solid Rock story that needs to be uncovered and then maybe we can find out where the money is. Last year in the spring his wife was diagnosed with breast cancer, followed by her husband Pastor Anderson leaving her and their two children and moving into his own apartment, but then he realized oh she got money coming from her short term disability as to which she never took off work, another fradulant case, but received thousand of dollars. Again this Pastor has misappropiated church funds and trying to lie his way out of it and it needs to be investigated. He is a liar and will look you in your eyes and just lie, there has never in the history of banks loaning money that I have ever heard of a bank just up and decide they want their money back. Pastor Anderson told the church the note on the new building was $38,000 a month and the utilities were $3,000 a month, he said that the note at the old church is $17,000 a month and utilities $1500 a month. He said last night on the news the church note is $22,000. Investigate this Pastor if you are really on the community side. He has gotten in the waer so deep he is drowning himself.
Memphis Guy

Cordova, TN

#10 Feb 23, 2010
Churchin is a business and maybe business isn't so good right now. Everybody thinks starting up a church is an easy way to make a buck.
Too many churches in this city already. Why do we need anymore?
Snake

Hernando, MS

#11 Feb 23, 2010
Kevin wrote:
I saw the story and I feel for the members. The only thing I have seen the Non-Denominational Church do, is make the Pastor rich.
I can't feel sorry for Bill and Tonya Anderson because a large part of their income is about to fade away with the loss of his Church, or should I say his wife's Church...(Read on)...I'm sure it was a good ride while it lasted. I just hope she didn't put the Dental Practice up as collateral when Tonya Lyons-Anderson and Theodore Lyons signed for that $2.9 million dollar loan that the story is talking about, thats right Pastor Anderson didn't sign for that loan. He did sign for the $800,000 bond deal that was paid off, and he did secure a 1 million dollar loan that was refinanced in the 2.9 million dollar deal his wife signed for, and he and his wife did buy the $400,000 home in Collierville that they sold after they bought the $2.2 million dollar home they live in now in Germantown. See why I can't feel sorry for the Preacher Man living high on the hog off him members offerings. I know his wife has a good Dental Practice, but the Church was paying for most of their high living. I hope they had a plan B.
Good follow-up info Kev.

Bad timing--(recession)--to rely on the congregation to keep the churches afloat. The Lord helps those that helps themselves. Most are just happy to keep food on the table and their own roof over their head.

Shame on Anderson if all the info you provided is true...but the Lords house has many rooms --- and once he shows up there I bet his is in the basement!
The Truth is its own Test

Memphis, TN

#12 Feb 23, 2010
It's funny how people outside of a situation love to lie, go on what they think, and never really want the truth. ECCU has done this same thing to many churches across the country including one of the largest ministries in Florida (Without Walls Church), that was started by Randy & Paula White. Before you speak about anything, research it! ECCU was in a cash crunch and even went to the Federal Reserve for help, but then withdrew its request. I wonder why? Suddenly they started strong arm tactics on churches. They asked churches to sign one-sided modifications, sign over all their intellectual assets(that means, books, videos etc.), and of course foreclosure and resale. They don't necessarily lose in a foreclosure, particularly when they have received payments, and withheld construction payments.
Enough about ECCU. Apostle Anderson & Dr. Anderson, took $60k of their own money to start that church. They have 2 thriving dental practices that has paid for every home they have ever owned. Neither of them takes a salary or even a love offering from Solid Rock (I've been there when he has actually given it back when the people tried to give it to him). As an Apostle, he believes like Apostle Paul: God will bless your secular business you don't have to accept payment from the church (even though the Bible says it is OK). He chooses not to burden the church. Why would any sane person that owns their own business do what some of you are suggesting, use those assets to buy the church? No. Real Christians trust God, try reach the lost,tithe & keep fighting lies & the world. This is one of the few churches that I know of in this city where they are always giving and not taking. They have the largest backpack drive in the city for kids every fall 5k-10k free backpacks, they give clothes to the needy, visit the shut-in, and even feed families of ICU patients at hospitals. What other "ministry" is really ministering like this to the least of us. Final word: judge not lest ye be judged.
Retired Submariner

Memphis, TN

#13 Feb 23, 2010
With all these churches in Memphis, someone please enlighten me as to WHY we have so much poverty, crime and lack of education ?

Why is that, Mr Preacher Man ?

No, I simply cannot feel even a tad bit sad for you.

Seems to me Jesus did an awful lot of good without a physical structure to preach from inside.

Get your collective azzes out in the community and DO SOMETHING.
Lynne

United States

#14 Feb 23, 2010
I know my comment isn't going to be met with favor, but when did having a multi-million dollar building(s) become a necessity for worship? Church services can be held under a tree. Outdoor worship services have existed throughout time. No, it’s not necessarily convenient or practical but neither is foreclosure.

I really hate to hear that so many churches are in danger of foreclosure or have already been foreclosed on, but maybe they should practice the concept of living BENEATH their means that way when times are hard they'll be better prepared to weather the storm.

You don’t need a multi-million dollar house of worship to prove your devotion to your faith.
Lynne

United States

#15 Feb 23, 2010
Memphis Guy wrote:
Churchin is a business and maybe business isn't so good right now. Everybody thinks starting up a church is an easy way to make a buck.
Too many churches in this city already. Why do we need anymore?
I think you make an excellent point. Maybe the problem is that there are simply too many churches and not enough people to attend and support their existence.
3rd party

Memphis, TN

#16 Feb 23, 2010
It had a lot more to do w/ collection rather than preaching
Investigate this Apostle

Cordova, TN

#17 Feb 23, 2010
The Truth is its own Test wrote:
It's funny how people outside of a situation love to lie, go on what they think, and never really want the truth. ECCU has done this same thing to many churches across the country including one of the largest ministries in Florida (Without Walls Church), that was started by Randy & Paula White. Before you speak about anything, research it! ECCU was in a cash crunch and even went to the Federal Reserve for help, but then withdrew its request. I wonder why? Suddenly they started strong arm tactics on churches. They asked churches to sign one-sided modifications, sign over all their intellectual assets(that means, books, videos etc.), and of course foreclosure and resale. They don't necessarily lose in a foreclosure, particularly when they have received payments, and withheld construction payments.
Enough about ECCU. Apostle Anderson & Dr. Anderson, took $60k of their own money to start that church. They have 2 thriving dental practices that has paid for every home they have ever owned. Neither of them takes a salary or even a love offering from Solid Rock (I've been there when he has actually given it back when the people tried to give it to him). As an Apostle, he believes like Apostle Paul: God will bless your secular business you don't have to accept payment from the church (even though the Bible says it is OK). He chooses not to burden the church. Why would any sane person that owns their own business do what some of you are suggesting, use those assets to buy the church? No. Real Christians trust God, try reach the lost,tithe & keep fighting lies & the world. This is one of the few churches that I know of in this city where they are always giving and not taking. They have the largest backpack drive in the city for kids every fall 5k-10k free backpacks, they give clothes to the needy, visit the shut-in, and even feed families of ICU patients at hospitals. What other "ministry" is really ministering like this to the least of us. Final word: judge not lest ye be judged.
Too many people got their trust in the wrong places, persons and things. Why take a salary when you have full control of all monies? Where did all the money go? Where is the proof of the montly mortgage payments to the bank? The backpack drive that you speak of is held at Solid Rock Church but the materials and actual backpacks are donated from Blue Cross Blue Shield, do we need to get clarity on the back pack drive because yes Solid rock do donate a few school items but majority funded is through BCBS or is this your way of opening up yet another can of worms with the GRANT MONIES that are suppose to be used for that purpose. Then the sad part about your Back Pack Drive is that all of the community that shows up have to provide their children social security numbers and tenn care information. What is that for? I say again investigate this Apostle and you are going to find out that his lavish lifestyle is not just funded by New Image Family Dentistry but Solid Rock tithers. Judge not less ye be judged is correct, this is not an judging issue this is the truth shall set you free. There was no need to build a church for members that you do not have but because everybody wants to be known for having the biggest church, this is what got the church landed in foreclosure and now a chapter 11 bankruptcy. If you don't have the tithe coming in now, how you gonna pay a chapter 11 note monthly? or is it that like I stated earlier that the members and their money never left the Apostle just misappropriated the funds to leave his sick cancer fighting wife with 2 children and move to an upscale apartment and live single with the tithers money or do you even know?
Lynne

United States

#18 Feb 23, 2010
"It's supposed to be a Christian credit union but when money gets bad, people who are Christian aren't really Christian"

I don't think that's a fair statement.

This credit union is a business. They're in the business of making loans and expecting them to be repaid. They are no different than any other lender.

If you default on a loan you should expect consequences.

What was this lender expected to do when the churhes defaulted?
Lady Elle

Butler, IL

#19 Feb 23, 2010
I was surprised to hear Spirit of Life Healing Wings International Church was being foreclosed....this makes the second time this has happened the first time they got forclosed on was when their church was on Dellwood in Frayser and now they are getting foreclosed again...my,my, my what's really going on?
Lady Elle

Butler, IL

#20 Feb 23, 2010
As for Solid Rock I had a house over in that area. My backyard faced the Solid Rock land (across the street from the church)...we complained several times to them that they needed to mow their grass and trim the bushes, trees so that they wouldn't be in our backyards (keep in mind our fences were tall wooden fences)....our calls and pleas never got answered.
Anonymous

Collierville, TN

#21 Feb 23, 2010
I would suggest that all of you that are running your mouths about Solid Rock and it's pastors to be very careful. If you don't know what is happening at the church then shut up!!! Look in a mirror and check yourself. It sounds to me like a bunch of jealous haters couldn't wait to get on here and start trying to scandalize a ministry and its leaders. What is the purpose of that? Is your life so petty that you take pleasure in trying to rake others over the coals. Surely you can't proclaim to love God and be a Christian and out of the same mouth spew such venom. A lot of you are the very reason that people don't go to church. Everything that goes wrong in a church isn't always the Pastor. You know how I know-because a bunch of you go to church. Christian people pray for others even when they don't know what's going on instead of trying to kick people. You better take heed to the word of God-"touch not my annointed..." I thank God that He is God and not any of you!!! If God was like man, the world would be a much worse place to be. Apostle & Dr. Anderson and Solid Rock-hold your heads up because God will get the glory in this. The ones that are trying to rejoice in what they deem to be your downfall will soon be praying for God's grace and mercy.

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