Has the 'Gay-Rights Movement' been Hi...

Has the 'Gay-Rights Movement' been Hijacked by The Fight For Marriage Equality?

There are 7 comments on the Daily Kos story from May 6, 2013, titled Has the 'Gay-Rights Movement' been Hijacked by The Fight For Marriage Equality?. In it, Daily Kos reports that:

Recently, the state of Rhode Island became the 10th state to support same-sex marriage which has been seen as a huge win for the gay-rights movement.

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MrC

UK

#1 May 6, 2013
...I was under the impression that the fight for marriage equality was the fight for a gay right?

Stupid question.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#2 May 6, 2013
MrC wrote:
...I was under the impression that the fight for marriage equality was the fight for a gay right?
Stupid question.
I agree.

The fight for marriage equality IS part of the "Gay-Rights Movement".

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#3 May 6, 2013
The article seems to be oblivious to the accelerated progress of all these other gay issues during the progress of the same-sex marriage movement. More states, counties, and cities are granting rights to same-sex couples, even in bright red states. More governments are granting protections in public accommodations, government employment, and government contracting.

Is marriage equality the be-all and end-all? Not quite. But it IS the most important measure we have of social acceptance. It only makes sense that, with social acceptance written into law, discriminatory practices will subside.

And the homophobes are right about one thing: Going forward, same-sex marriage will have to be discussed objectively in health and civics classes. In grade school, children will be more aware that the other woman is another mother, not an aunt or baby sitter.

It's no wonder the homophobes are panicking. They hate the idea of objective information about gays!

Will contributions to gay advocacy groups subside after marriage equality is one? Yes. And so it should. We should all have better ways to spend our charitable dollars. I am looking forward to never having to fund another state battle against a constitutional amendment or other ballot initiative.

Gay rights advocates should begin thinking about how they can put their knowledge to use for broader initiatives. It's highly unrealistic to expect the high levels of contributions that have been made during the DADT and same-sex marriage battles to continue.

But pity the groups like NOM whose only reason to exist was fighting a battle they lost.

“Greetings!”

Since: Dec 06

Tampa, FL

#4 May 7, 2013
The author, Alex Forgue, is SO off base on this article.

Ask any of us who have been fighting for equal rights for gays and lesbians and we'll tell you that we KNOW all the individual issues listed in this article are important. But we also learned very quickly that it was much better to focus on the MARRIAGE issue than to try to fight for equal rights regarding mental health, employment, or "spousal abuse," just to name a few.

And there's a VERY good reason for that decision. Because WHEN marriage equality IS the law of the land, the 1,300+ rights and benefits that come with that recognition, THEN many of those very issues listed in the article will quickly fall aside!

For example, on employment rights. If a man gets fired for taking time off work to marry his male partner - THAT would break the law - even in a "at will" work state. Why try to fight 50 state battles over "employment rights" when gay marriage being legal will inevitably place sexual orientation into employee rights. The same goes for physical/spousal abuse, taxes and mental health issues.

Gay marriage IS the hub of the spoke of hundreds of rights and will queue changes to tens-of-thousands of laws and regulations in every city and town in the USA.

Marriage rights IS the Achilles Heal of gay discrimination!

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#5 May 7, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
The article seems to be oblivious to the accelerated progress of all these other gay issues during the progress of the same-sex marriage movement. More states, counties, and cities are granting rights to same-sex couples, even in bright red states. More governments are granting protections in public accommodations, government employment, and government contracting.
Is marriage equality the be-all and end-all? Not quite. But it IS the most important measure we have of social acceptance. It only makes sense that, with social acceptance written into law, discriminatory practices will subside.
And the homophobes are right about one thing: Going forward, same-sex marriage will have to be discussed objectively in health and civics classes. In grade school, children will be more aware that the other woman is another mother, not an aunt or baby sitter.
It's no wonder the homophobes are panicking. They hate the idea of objective information about gays!
Will contributions to gay advocacy groups subside after marriage equality is one? Yes. And so it should. We should all have better ways to spend our charitable dollars. I am looking forward to never having to fund another state battle against a constitutional amendment or other ballot initiative.
Gay rights advocates should begin thinking about how they can put their knowledge to use for broader initiatives. It's highly unrealistic to expect the high levels of contributions that have been made during the DADT and same-sex marriage battles to continue.
But pity the groups like NOM whose only reason to exist was fighting a battle they lost.
Jeff,

A good number of years ago I was asked to participate in a leadership development program for my community.

I was the first openly gay person ever to participate in the program. My group was amazed when I stood up and asked the assistant Attorney General of the state of Texas if I was indeed a criminal I my own home state because I was an openly practicing homosexual. He, of course had to answer yes.

The highly educated members of my group were astounded. Not one of the knew of the antisodomy law in Texas.

Quite simply you are misleading people. These issues are very, very important.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#6 May 8, 2013
It's one of the most glaring denials of a civil right, and so is receiving the most attention at this point, but not the only one.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#7 May 8, 2013
TomInElPaso wrote:
<quoted text>
Jeff,
A good number of years ago I was asked to participate in a leadership development program for my community.
I was the first openly gay person ever to participate in the program. My group was amazed when I stood up and asked the assistant Attorney General of the state of Texas if I was indeed a criminal I my own home state because I was an openly practicing homosexual. He, of course had to answer yes.
The highly educated members of my group were astounded. Not one of the knew of the antisodomy law in Texas.
Quite simply you are misleading people. These issues are very, very important.
I never said they weren't important. I said that they're getting resolved faster now. This is correlated with the gay marriage progress--whether causative, resultant, or synergistic.(I believe the latter.) The prominence of marriage equality will accelerate acceptance generally.

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