What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immi...

What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immigration?

There are 1502 comments on the WCTV Tallahassee story from Jul 4, 2012, titled What Is The True Cost Of Illegal Immigration?. In it, WCTV Tallahassee reports that:

Research shows Florida and Georgia taxpayers lose tens of millions of dollars every year due to illegal immigration, and billions nationwide.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at WCTV Tallahassee.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#23 Jul 6, 2012
t clms wrote:
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Don't try andtell me the majority of Agricultural workers/pickers are US workers...
I never made that claim...I see that reading comp isn't your forte. I said that a small percentage off illegals actually are working agricultural jobs. "The number of illegal immigrants in the United States has grown to nearly 12 million, according to a new report by the Pew Hispanic Center. Pew says that illegal immigrants make up nearly five percent of the labor force. About 20 percent of that population works in construction, and four percent is employed in agriculture."

Twenty two million American workers produce, process, sell and trade the nation's food and fiber. But only 4.6 million of those people live on the farms-- slightly less than 2 percent of the total U.S. Population.

http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/CollegeRelations/AGR...
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#25 Jul 6, 2012
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text> I never made that claim...I see that reading comp isn't your forte. I said that a small percentage off illegals actually are working agricultural jobs. "The number of illegal immigrants in the United States has grown to nearly 12 million, according to a new report by the Pew Hispanic Center. Pew says that illegal immigrants make up nearly five percent of the labor force. About 20 percent of that population works in construction, and four percent is employed in agriculture."
Twenty two million American workers produce, process, sell and trade the nation's food and fiber. But only 4.6 million of those people live on the farms-- slightly less than 2 percent of the total U.S. Population.
http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/CollegeRelations/AGR...
The implication was,not many worked in the fields....

You have no info about how many foreign people actually do the work...
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#26 Jul 6, 2012
juan still a slimeball wrote:
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They deserve "nothing", zip, zilch, nada with the exception of deportation along with their illegal tax suking criminal parents. Nothing is free jaunita, somebody somewhere has to pay for it. They didn't "earn" it by merely being here. We taxpayers are fed up with paying for your little parasites that do nothing with the exception of suk the country dry. GFY juan. Get that bugout bag ready their juan, your time is growing very short.
The biggest parasites on the planet are Americans who have been ripping off the rest of the world for decades. Robbing countries of their resources and depressing local agriculture and industry.

The least you can do it pay back some of your thievery by accommodating some foreign workers: who are working harder than you, anyway...

You "taxpayers" are not paying enough for the wealth you enjoy, that you "sukked" from the rest of the world..l
Disgusted

United States

#29 Jul 6, 2012
t clms your stupid posts have been reported. I don't know what the hell you're trying to prove with your stupid posts, but all you're proving to me is you're an idiot.
Austinite

Austin, TX

#30 Jul 6, 2012
In Texas the Comptroller was instructed in 2006 to produce a report on the costs of illegal aliens to Texas taxpayers.
Comptroller was instructed to not include hospital or school costs.
The pecan shell conclusion was that illegal aliens contributed $1.58 billion in state revenues in the form of sales taxes, which exceeded the $1.16 billion in various state services they received.
The amount reached for sales tax revenue was presumptive in that illegal aliens were presumed to spend monies on the same level as the average Texan.
Losing the just under 2 million illegal aliens would cost the Texas economy almost $17 billion but made no mention of Texans or other legal residents taking those jobs and so on so that point is really moot.
The footnote to the report was that had education and hospital been included then the cost of illegal aliens to Texas taxpayers would have been an additional $1.93 billion.
Telmark

United States

#31 Jul 6, 2012
Many Arabs do not "wash" and/or wipe their rears at all (due to the fact that they have no water and/or other material to use). These Arabs just dump and go on with their 3rd world lives.

Other Arabs "wash" their rears with water that has been previously contaminated with fecal matter and/or other bacteria.

Very few Arabs have access to clean, non fecal matter contaminated, water and/or toilet paper.

The above is just part of what defines a "3rd world" country and/or region.

Predominantly Arab countries make up many, if not most, of the 3rd world regions on the planet.

The Western world has very few, if any, areas that are classified as being 3rd world regions.

No amount of Arab/Islamic propaganda can change the above facts.
Disgusted

United States

#32 Jul 6, 2012
Telmark wrote:
Many Arabs do not "wash" and/or wipe their rears at all (due to the fact that they have no water and/or other material to use). These Arabs just dump and go on with their 3rd world lives.
Other Arabs "wash" their rears with water that has been previously contaminated with fecal matter and/or other bacteria.
Very few Arabs have access to clean, non fecal matter contaminated, water and/or toilet paper.
The above is just part of what defines a "3rd world" country and/or region.
Predominantly Arab countries make up many, if not most, of the 3rd world regions on the planet.
The Western world has very few, if any, areas that are classified as being 3rd world regions.
No amount of Arab/Islamic propaganda can change the above facts.
Here is my experience with muslims in Iraq is as follows:

They also wipe their ares with their left hand, and sling whats left on their hand on the walls of the so called restrooms before washing their hand with a bottle of water.

The men stand to shyt and squat to pee.

If they offer you their left hand to shake that's an insult to you.

Now can we get back on the topic here.
good bye taco

Southampton, PA

#33 Jul 6, 2012
Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
The fkin illegal mexican scum are ruining this country. You're so full of bullchit,and someday someone is going to knock it out of you. Now STFU moron.
We will do it after the Nov election,when we take our country back from Demcrats and illegal alien Mexacans,just watch how fast we deport their sad a#ss back.What gets me is the way they put our country down when they wave their filty Mexican on American soil,we will give them a chance to wave it in Mexico.They will now for the first time in their lives have to work,no more Welfare.food stamps and free healthcare,although Obamacare took care of that for now,yes they will have to show proff of health insurence (He HE)Then we will take care of the Racist that run La Raza and boot them out since they help illegals get into our country they are breaking our laws,"We don't need no stinking badges") Hispanics don't have to obey our laws after all they are great people,they pick fruit and clean our toilets.
Anonymous

Nampa, ID

#34 Jul 6, 2012
teddyr4me wrote:
Get every school across the nation to tell you how many children of illegals they have sitting in their desks, also ask them how many eat free and reduced meeals....the numbers from just those two items would be enough reason to boot these interlopers. We haven't even touched the free social services and without that being added, the costs would still be astronomical. They are destroying this country from within.
Very well said!! Put out those numbers for the public to see and the public will want them out of here!!
Klaus666

Toronto, Canada

#35 Jul 6, 2012
Race war and revolution are the only solutions. Don't ask for a Romney when a Hitler or Vlad Tepes on steroids is required.

SIR LANCELOT

“I just hate stupid people”

Since: Apr 07

DEEP SOUTHERN ILLINOIS

#36 Jul 6, 2012
ima wrote:
<quoted text> You're right teddy, and thats their intention. All these pro-illegal advocates DON'T EVEN STOP TO REALIZE OR REFUSE TO THINK ABOUT IT......perhaps because they're illegals themselves. We try to bring up figures to prove our stand on this exremely important issue and they all throw in the "racist" card. Hell, I don't even think too many people know what being racist is!!
The illegal alien problem can be summed up easily and that is the fact the Democrat Party wants them as a new voting block.
The Democrat Party wants amnesty, the party will fight any attempt at border enforcement and will grant the illegals voting rights.
Deportation is never on thier agenda, only swelling thier ranks to ensure party survivability.
Face it, whites by a overwhelming majority reject the socialist/communist agenda of the left, blacks cannot pick up the slack so the Democrat Party needs the illegal aliens, largely hispanic.

They will give away your kids and grandkids birthright to this nation because the ends justify the means.

I've said it before, and i'll say it again: ILLEGAL ALIENS The Future of The Democrat Party.
Juan

Pearland, TX

#37 Jul 7, 2012
juan still a slimeball wrote:
<quoted text>
They deserve "nothing", zip, zilch, nada with the exception of deportation along with their illegal tax suking criminal parents. Nothing is free jaunita, somebody somewhere has to pay for it. They didn't "earn" it by merely being here. We taxpayers are fed up with paying for your little parasites that do nothing with the exception of suk the country dry. GFY juan. Get that bugout bag ready their juan, your time is growing very short.
One thing you fail to take into consideration, their children are citizens, just like you.
Juan

Pearland, TX

#38 Jul 7, 2012
ima wrote:
<quoted text> S---h--u--t u--p! you're an illegal alien, your thoughts and words don't matter. Hope they deport your illegal GF & THE ANCHOR both of you produced.
Ima......we may have to get you some prozac.....calm down.

Remember.....don't blame the children, they are citizens like you.
Juan

Pearland, TX

#39 Jul 7, 2012
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
With 10 million illegal kids in our schools at $10,000 per kid per year, that's $100 billion right there taken from the american people every year and given to people that aren't even allowed to be here.
How many aircraft carriers would that buy and how many innocent people could be killed.
Juan

Pearland, TX

#40 Jul 7, 2012
Telmark wrote:
Sorry t clms, but Arabs are well known for wiping their rear ends with their bare hands (and doing little other than to wipe their hands on anything nearby afterwards).
Btw, the very small number of Arabs who "wash themselves" often do so with filthy feces contaminated water, such as found in most regions of many Arab countries (this is, in part, why so many Arab countries are little more than 3rd world dumps).
This is not to mention that many Arabs have very little access to any water (let alone a clean source that they haven't already washed their rears in).
All this nasty talk about hygeine is beginning to make me feel sick.
Nobody cares

Houston, TX

#41 Jul 7, 2012
Juan wrote:
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One thing you fail to take into consideration, their children are citizens, just like you.
and you aren't. GFY you worthless POS troll.
Pando

Bullhead City, AZ

#42 Jul 7, 2012
Juan wrote:
Many of you fail to realized these children of immigrants are citizens and deserve the free meals, etc. etc.
The discussion is about ILLEGAL ALIENS not immigrants.

Care to share with us where it says the children of ILLEGAL ALIENS are citizens because they were born here?
Juan

Pearland, TX

#43 Jul 8, 2012
Pando wrote:
<quoted text>
The discussion is about ILLEGAL ALIENS not immigrants.
Care to share with us where it says the children of ILLEGAL ALIENS are citizens because they were born here?
14th amendment unless it's been changed in the last day or two.
juan is a dipchit

Houston, TX

#44 Jul 8, 2012
Juan wrote:
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All this nasty talk about hygeine is beginning to make me feel sick.
Good maybe sick enough to croak? One could only hope you do. Don't like the conversation? Change the channel and go crawl back under your slimy rock. You won't be missed that's for sure.
Pando

Bullhead City, AZ

#45 Jul 9, 2012
Juan wrote:
<quoted text>
14th amendment unless it's been changed in the last day or two.
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
~~~~~~~~~~

Here's some reading for you:

The Fourteenth Amendment excludes the children of aliens.(The Slaughterhouse Cases (83 U.S. 36 (1873))

The Supreme Court has never confirmed birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens, temporary workers, and tourists.(Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202, 211 n.10 (1982))

The Fourteenth Amendment draws a distinction between the children of aliens and children of citizens.(Minor v. Happersett (88 U.S. 162 (1874))

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction" requires "direct and immediate allegiance" to the United States, not just physical presence.(Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94 (1884))

In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard (co-author of the 14th amendment)wrote,“This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors, or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons." Senator Howard wrote the addition phrase specifically because he wanted to make it clear that the simple accident of birth in the US is not sufficient to justify citizenship.

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