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House GOP wants to cut food stamps in drive to protect Pentagon from big federal budget cuts

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16, 2012, file photo House Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., holds up a copy of President Barack Obama's fiscal 2013 federal budget during the budget committee's hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington.

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“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Trump 2016 and beyond

#857 Apr 28, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
A Phoenix Rising: Common-Good Conservatism
Friday, 27 April 2012 14:25
By Michael Stafford and D R Tucker, Truthout | Op-Ed
Note: After Mike Lofgren's seminal "Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult" comes a cry for a reinvented conservatism from two Republicans disillusioned with what their party has become and convinced that the conservative political tradition is salvageable. Truthout is posting this piece to stimulate a healthy dialogue about whether there is a conservative political tradition that can actually work with progressives. Or is that just naïve? We hope that you read and comment with your reaction.
In mythology, the phoenix is a beautiful bird that bursts into flames at the end of its life as it dies. From the ashes of the old, a new phoenix emerges. This cycle of birth, fiery death and rebirth, makes the phoenix a symbol of hope and renewal.
Today, American conservatism has degenerated into an intellectually and morally bankrupt ideology. It offers nothing more than bumper-sticker slogans that pander to the prejudices and ignorance of the lowest common denominator in order to enrich and empower an oligarchic elite. Angry, cruel and sneering, it is exemplified by the carnival barkers on talk radio and Fox News. High in volume, but devoid of substance, it has no long-term future because it lacks credible solutions to the range of very real problems American society is facing.
Indeed, what passes for "conservatism" today is actually nothing of the sort. Modern American conservatism has forgotten its rich legacy and betrayed its best traditions. It has become infected with a virulent strain of extreme libertarianism heavily influenced by the thinking of Ayn Rand.
Rand's disciples claim to champion liberty and freedom, but really care only about license - the notion that actions have no consequences and individuals have no broader responsibilities to anything or anyone but themselves. As George Monbiot has correctly noted, this brand of libertarianism, although often "dressed up as freedom," is in reality:
"a formula for oppression and bondage. It does nothing to address inequality, hardship or social exclusion. A transparently self-serving vision, it seeks to justify the greedy and selfish behaviour of those with wealth and power."
(Cont.)
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/8643-a-phoe...
Somehow I believe you are baiting me with the Philosophy of Ayn Rand........I have about 700 cords of wood lying on the ground and I have offered it for free to those families that have an able bodied Male in it who also get their fuel oil from HEAP....One winter has passed and no one has come to get it.....All of these families houses had wood furnaces in them...as well as oil furnaces...Go figure...
Gloria Again

Peoria, AZ

#858 Apr 28, 2012
NO EXCUSES wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you have some fudge to munch? You spend way too much time here. I think your husband misses you. Best go please him!!!
She has had 3 husbands and a disfunctional family that needs looking after - but she is here on Topix 24 hours a day telling people how to run their lives!

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Trump 2016 and beyond

#859 Apr 28, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
A Phoenix Rising: Common-Good Conservatism
Friday, 27 April 2012 14:25
By Michael Stafford and D R Tucker, Truthout | Op-Ed
Note: After Mike Lofgren's seminal "Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult" comes a cry for a reinvented conservatism from two Republicans disillusioned with what their party has become and convinced that the conservative political tradition is salvageable. Truthout is posting this piece to stimulate a healthy dialogue about whether there is a conservative political tradition that can actually work with progressives. Or is that just naïve? We hope that you read and comment with your reaction.
In mythology, the phoenix is a beautiful bird that bursts into flames at the end of its life as it dies. From the ashes of the old, a new phoenix emerges. This cycle of birth, fiery death and rebirth, makes the phoenix a symbol of hope and renewal.
Today, American conservatism has degenerated into an intellectually and morally bankrupt ideology. It offers nothing more than bumper-sticker slogans that pander to the prejudices and ignorance of the lowest common denominator in order to enrich and empower an oligarchic elite. Angry, cruel and sneering, it is exemplified by the carnival barkers on talk radio and Fox News. High in volume, but devoid of substance, it has no long-term future because it lacks credible solutions to the range of very real problems American society is facing.
Indeed, what passes for "conservatism" today is actually nothing of the sort. Modern American conservatism has forgotten its rich legacy and betrayed its best traditions. It has become infected with a virulent strain of extreme libertarianism heavily influenced by the thinking of Ayn Rand.
Rand's disciples claim to champion liberty and freedom, but really care only about license - the notion that actions have no consequences and individuals have no broader responsibilities to anything or anyone but themselves. As George Monbiot has correctly noted, this brand of libertarianism, although often "dressed up as freedom," is in reality:
"a formula for oppression and bondage. It does nothing to address inequality, hardship or social exclusion. A transparently self-serving vision, it seeks to justify the greedy and selfish behaviour of those with wealth and power."
(Cont.)
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/8643-a-phoe...
I believe Ayn rand is teaching our nation some lessons...I also agree with some of her philosophy....

REWBA

“RelaxEverythingW illBeAllright”

Since: Mar 11

United States

#860 Apr 28, 2012
Big Bone Boy wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong, dolt. Good people help others with OUT the interference of the government.
YES! The kinder, gentler approach. FU Bag Boy!
Big Bone Boy wrote:
<quoted text>You obviously do need someone to take care of you because you'd otherwise not be so willing to have your money taken. You're planning for failure not success.
You are the one demanding security without standing up for it yourself. Take care of me...I'm scared!...Fight the terror! I don't care how much it costs! You are a Puzzy!
Big Bone Boy wrote:
<quoted text>Personally, I do care who gets my money, and for what it's being used for. Pay for clean needle? Bullshit! I want clean streets. Pay for a useless and wasteful energy policy? Bullshit! I want proven home-grown energy developed. Let the energy companies spent their money, not the government spent mine. Pay for empty buildings? Bullshit! Rent or sell to small businesses. Pay for your condoms? Bullshit! Get a job!
Pay off warlords in Afghanistan? Buy airspace rights from terrorist supporters in Pakistan? Establish Islamic Republics in Iraq and Afghanistan? Buy both of them a well trained and equipped army and security police? Hand out American taxpayer money in no bid contracts with a blank spot where the total amount is supposed to be? Pay them for services never rendered? Refuse to investigate? Pay government regulators to look the other way? When the crooks are done robbing us, hand them a trillion dollars? Replace the most advanced war machines on the planet with more advanced war machines even though we've never even used up the old ones yet? The whole time giving the war machine salesmen an huge tax break?

Sure, your way is much better! LMAO

OBAMA 2012!!!

P.S. I'm still waiting...What was your military occupational specialty when you were fighting terrorists?

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#861 Apr 28, 2012
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
A lot of BS and spin in that one.
It is clearly noted in the header that this is an OP/ED piece - no attempt to disguise it as anything other than the opinions of two former Republican loyalists and their take. I happen to think they make valid points - just my opinion.

If you can't find a way to support the common good, and you have no modicum of consideration for the rights of others as well as your own self-interests, you risk alienating a segment of the base you need in order to win an election. It's time to push aside the extremists who refuse to budge one iota - even when they do major damage to the country and their party:

“Every man cannot have his way in all things. If his opinion prevails at some times, he should acquiesce on seeing that of others preponderate at other times. Without this mutual disposition we are disjointed individuals, but not a society."

Thomas Jefferson

Negotiation and compromise are not dirty words. The first is mandatory when perspectives conflict, and the second is essential to finding solutions to disparate points of view that would otherwise result in nothing but the status quo continuing which was unacceptable in the first place or there would have been no issue and no conflict. The difference in accomplishment between First World nations and Third World nations is mostly a function of lack of a central government. That lack is why a continent rich in natural resources, Africa, has languished and been exploited. Tribalism, myriad spoken languages, no central stabilizing government.

States rights aren't enacted in a vacumm. They aren't individual countries and they aren't walled off to prevent U.S. citizens of other states from passing through or relocating. For laws to be enforceable, there has to be some degree of standardization across the union, or we risk balkanizing the country - the other part of a formula guaranteed to foment conflict.

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#862 Apr 28, 2012
Gloria Again wrote:
<quoted text> She has had 3 husbands and a disfunctional family that needs looking after - but she is here on Topix 24 hours a day telling people how to run their lives!
My adult children are in their mid forties, mid thirties and the youngest is 26. They don't need "looking after". I looked after them from birth until they reached independence and self-sufficiency. I worked, and I mothered. I don't have to do that anymore. I'm old. I paid my dues, did my job. I earned the right to do any d*mned thing I feel like doing with my days, my nights, my weekends.

You're the creep who keeps talking about having a young child. Where is that young child, and why have you been here all day and all of last night IF you are one poster. Are you? If so, you're a very very sorry excuse for a parent. That's just a fact.
How Novel

Saint Louis, MO

#863 Apr 28, 2012
OMG, yet another novel by NTRPRNR1?

“Do be afraid”

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#864 Apr 28, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>It is clearly noted in the header that this is an OP/ED piece - no attempt to disguise it as anything other than the opinions of two former Republican loyalists and their take. I happen to think they make valid points - just my opinion.
If you can't find a way to support the common good, and you have no modicum of consideration for the rights of others as well as your own self-interests, you risk alienating a segment of the base you need in order to win an election. It's time to push aside the extremists who refuse to budge one iota - even when they do major damage to the country and their party:
“Every man cannot have his way in all things. If his opinion prevails at some times, he should acquiesce on seeing that of others preponderate at other times. Without this mutual disposition we are disjointed individuals, but not a society."
Thomas Jefferson
Negotiation and compromise are not dirty words. The first is mandatory when perspectives conflict, and the second is essential to finding solutions to disparate points of view that would otherwise result in nothing but the status quo continuing which was unacceptable in the first place or there would have been no issue and no conflict. The difference in accomplishment between First World nations and Third World nations is mostly a function of lack of a central government. That lack is why a continent rich in natural resources, Africa, has languished and been exploited. Tribalism, myriad spoken languages, no central stabilizing government.
States rights aren't enacted in a vacumm. They aren't individual countries and they aren't walled off to prevent U.S. citizens of other states from passing through or relocating. For laws to be enforceable, there has to be some degree of standardization across the union, or we risk balkanizing the country - the other part of a formula guaranteed to foment conflict.
"Negotiation and compromise are not dirty words."
It is unethical to do in the case of criminals but I know, you don't see a paoblem with it.

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#865 Apr 28, 2012
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>Somehow I believe you are baiting me with the Philosophy of Ayn Rand........I have about 700 cords of wood lying on the ground and I have offered it for free to those families that have an able bodied Male in it who also get their fuel oil from HEAP....One winter has passed and no one has come to get it.....All of these families houses had wood furnaces in them...as well as oil furnaces...Go figure...
If you live in a rural area where there is a need for firewood which you've offered for free and nobody came to claim it, I would suggest your neighbors find you creepy. I've had locals come and offer to take down dead trees for free for firewood. Yep. People need firewood, and they even pay for it. So, there's something not quite right about your story. You'll have to figure out what it is.

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#866 Apr 28, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>My adult children are in their mid forties, mid thirties and the youngest is 26. They don't need "looking after". I looked after them from birth until they reached independence and self-sufficiency. I worked, and I mothered. I don't have to do that anymore. I'm old. I paid my dues, did my job. I earned the right to do any d*mned thing I feel like doing with my days, my nights, my weekends.
You're the creep who keeps talking about having a young child. Where is that young child, and why have you been here all day and all of last night IF you are one poster. Are you? If so, you're a very very sorry excuse for a parent. That's just a fact.
Just a day or two ago ya told us all how you can't resist going to the store your son works at and speak to his co-workers about their respect for him.

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#867 Apr 28, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>If you live in a rural area where there is a need for firewood which you've offered for free and nobody came to claim it, I would suggest your neighbors find you creepy. I've had locals come and offer to take down dead trees for free for firewood. Yep. People need firewood, and they even pay for it. So, there's something not quite right about your story. You'll have to figure out what it is.
Just as with the trayvon case, you can "suggest anything you want but it doesn't make it true, just your opinion and few people care about that anymore.

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#868 Apr 28, 2012
Ralff wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a day or two ago ya told us all how you can't resist going to the store your son works at and speak to his co-workers about their respect for him.
You've become a first class liar. This is a case in point.
Gloria Again

Peoria, AZ

#869 Apr 28, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>My adult children are in their mid forties, mid thirties and the youngest is 26. They don't need "looking after". I looked after them from birth until they reached independence and self-sufficiency. I worked, and I mothered. I don't have to do that anymore. I'm old. I paid my dues, did my job. I earned the right to do any d*mned thing I feel like doing with my days, my nights, my weekends.
You're the creep who keeps talking about having a young child. Where is that young child, and why have you been here all day and all of last night IF you are one poster. Are you? If so, you're a very very sorry excuse for a parent. That's just a fact.
I write very short posts not lengthy disserations so how can I be here all day, troll?
Gloria Again

Peoria, AZ

#870 Apr 28, 2012
How Novel wrote:
OMG, yet another novel by NTRPRNR1?
With enough holes in the script to drive a 18 wheeler through! lol
Gloria Again

Peoria, AZ

#871 Apr 28, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>You've become a first class liar. This is a case in point.
You are a WORLD CLASS liar, troll!

“Try Reuters.”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#872 Apr 28, 2012
Gloria Again wrote:
<quoted text> You are a WORLD CLASS liar, troll!
Pour yourself a cup of coffee - if you don't think it might be too much with the meth you're on. You're the troll here. Notice your gray box existence? Pay attention. How did you come to be a gray box? That would be because of repeated violations of the TOS of Topix. Even the other gray box you were using was terminated by Topix, and you have found yet another work around to continue spamming the threads. See, troll, that's the way it works. You never get to keep a skin and a registered ID. That makes YOU the troll. No doubt about it.
Gloria Again

Peoria, AZ

#873 Apr 28, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Pour yourself a cup of coffee - if you don't think it might be too much with the meth you're on. You're the troll here. Notice your gray box existence? Pay attention. How did you come to be a gray box? That would be because of repeated violations of the TOS of Topix. Even the other gray box you were using was terminated by Topix, and you have found yet another work around to continue spamming the threads. See, troll, that's the way it works. You never get to keep a skin and a registered ID. That makes YOU the troll. No doubt about it.
I dont drink coffee.

I take allergy pills.

US Mail has been banned over 30 times - why should I care?

Troll...
Morgan Stanley

Monongahela, PA

#874 Apr 28, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>My adult children are in their mid forties, mid thirties and the youngest is 26. They don't need "looking after". I looked after them from birth until they reached independence and self-sufficiency. I worked, and I mothered. I don't have to do that anymore. I'm old. I paid my dues, did my job. I earned the right to do any d*mned thing I feel like doing with my days, my nights, my weekends.
You're the creep who keeps talking about having a young child. Where is that young child, and why have you been here all day and all of last night IF you are one poster. Are you? If so, you're a very very sorry excuse for a parent. That's just a fact.
Did you check with Obama? You have no rights old lady!
Morgan Stanley

Monongahela, PA

#875 Apr 28, 2012
Gloria Again wrote:
<quoted text>
I dont drink coffee.
I take allergy pills.
US Mail has been banned over 30 times - why should I care?
Troll...
WOW, she has a ton of bottled up hate. Let's send her a nice tall glass of STFU!
Morgan Stanley

Monongahela, PA

#876 Apr 28, 2012
Ralff wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a day or two ago ya told us all how you can't resist going to the store your son works at and speak to his co-workers about their respect for him.
I'd bet NTR is here on a green card living on welfare and typing on a 'hot' pc while she sucks on a camel and sips on cheap whiskey.

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