Gays Denied Marriage: The Economic Cost

Mar 28, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WISW-AM Columbia

What is the cost to gay people of not being allowed to marry? A University of Massachusetts economist believes the lifetime cost averages $500,000 per couple.

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Lacez wrote:
Yeah, on second thought, I'm done here.
I'd be more entertained with actual discussion.
Go talk to this girl:
“Engaged to the love of my life”
I already feel sorry for her.

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Lacez wrote:
Yeah, on second thought, I'm done here.
I'd be more entertained with actual discussion.
It would appear that someone's posts are disappearing. I wonder why that would be?

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Limbaugh is talking about polygamy on his show right now, so don't try to tell me that the liberal freakshow ends with gay "marriage".
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Sneaky Pete wrote:
Limbaugh is talking about polygamy on his show right now, so don't try to tell me that the liberal freakshow ends with gay "marriage".
well, there's your problem. you're listening to rush limbaugh.

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heartandmind wrote:
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well, there's your problem. you're listening to rush limbaugh.
There's YOUR problem... you don't. You could learn something. I suppose the tens of millions of his listeners have a "problem" too, eh?
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Sneaky Pete wrote:
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There's YOUR problem... you don't. You could learn something. I suppose the tens of millions of his listeners have a "problem" too, eh?
sorry, i don't listen to drug adicted bigots that spout half truths at best.

have you ever run any fact checks on what the fat boy spouts? probably not?

1. "It has not been proven that nicotine is addictive, the same with cigarettes causing emphysema [and other diseases]." (Radio show, 4/29/94)

2. LIMBAUGH: On the Republicans' "Contract With America": "The New York Times never ran anything on the contract 'til after the election. The rest of the news media hardly talked about it at all." (TV, 4/6/95)

REALITY: In the 42 days between the announcement of the "Contract with America" and the Nov. 8, 1994 election, the New York Times published 45 articles that mentioned the contract--more than one a day. The Nexis computer database reports that more than 1400 pieces mentioning the contract were published before the election.

3. LIMBAUGH: "Banks take the risks in issuing student loans and they are entitled to the profits." (Radio show, quoted in FRQ, Summer/93)

REALITY: Banks take no risks in issuing student loans, which are federally insured.

4. LIMBAUGH: Comparing the 1950s with the present: "And I might point out that poverty and economic disparities between the lower and upper classes were greater during the former period." (Told You So, p. 84)

REALITY: Income inequality, as measured by the U.S. Census Bureau, fell from the 1940s to the late 1960s, and then began rising. Inequality surpassed the 1950 level in 1982 and rose steadily to all-time highs in 1992.(Census Bureau's "Money Income of Households, Families and Persons in the United States")

5. LIMBAUGH: "Oh, how they relished blaming Reagan administration policies, including the mythical reductions in HUD's budget for public housing, for creating all of the homeless! Budget cuts? There were no budget cuts! The budget figures show that actual construction of public housing increased during the Reagan years." (Ought to Be, p. 242-243)

REALITY: In 1980, 20,900 low-income public housing units were under construction; in 1988, 9,700, a decline of 54 percent ;Statistical Abstracts of the U.S).In terms of 1993 dollars, the HUD budget for the construction of new public housing was slashed from $6.3 billion in 1980 to $683 million in 1988. "We're getting out of the housing business. Period," a Reagan HUD official declared in 1985.

6. LIMBAUGH: "There's no such thing as an implied contract." (Radio show, quoted in FRQ, Spring/93)

REALITY: Every first-year law student knows there is.

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Lacez wrote:
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Yes, I am a Canadian, but then the rest of the stuff you said only proves how ignorant and uneducated you are.
Whatever...lol.
You attacked my posts.
You lied about things I didn't say claiming I said them.
You equated me to Mitt making a personal declaration by your prejudgement of me with prejudices based on your bigotry that I also was a right wing conservative that's against same sex marriage.
The truly ignorant/uneducated points existing are yours about me because you had to lie to make negative points about me. And nice job :)

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Found a way to make this particular troll drop dead in their track. Like Wondering, this is a pot stirring troll. Pot stirrers will not speak unless spoken to. If you don't respond, they don't post.
However, if you want to give them a venue to continue their diarrhea of the keyboard, by all means do. It is both intensely amusing in its childlike reasoning, and it also prevents them (by waste of their time) from trolling elsewhere.
Remember, only you can stop topix trolls.
Have you tried you're medicine on yourself? Have you stopped your Topix trolling? You did troll well over a dozen times demanding proof of an argument for proof that doesn't exist. Did you stop that trolling or have you continued to demand proof for your circular reasoning? Hmmm?

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It would appear that someone's posts are disappearing. I wonder why that would be?
You're trolling fallacy posts...this is the fallacy statement you posted over and over especially at me. And I never once said there was any justified legal interest to deny same sex marriage.

363... You have just proven my point, because absent such an interest, laws denying same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry are unconstitutional.
349...and it is against equal protection, which is constitutionally guaranteed.
348...our constitution specifies that states must provide all persons within their jurisdiction equal protection of the laws..we wrote a constitution, and we have since amended it to address various issue, such as equal protection...Unless you can grow up an indicate a legitimate state interest served by denying same sex couples equal protection of the law..
338...You've not indicated a rational basis for your opposition to equality under the law for same sex couples to marry, much less a compelling state interest.
333...Feel free to actually indicate a legitimate state interest served by denying same sex couples the right to marry.
295...You have NO valid argument against equal protection of the law for same sex couples to marry;
284...no one has been able to articulate a rational basis to deny equal protection of the laws for all.
238...You present no compelling state interest to limit the legal protections of marriage to being between a man and a woman...You've yet to indicate any a rational basis to limit it to being between a man and a woman, just as you have failed to show a compelling state interest served by excluding same sex couples.
237...doing so would have to serve a legitimate state interest in order to satisfy strict scrutiny. Of course, you offered no reason in particular that such a restriction could withstand a rational basis test.
225...Nothing that you have said would rise to the level of a legitimate state interest to exclude same sex couples from the legal protections of marriage,
222...the problem with your theory is that laws limiting marriage to being between a man and a woman unconstitutionally abridge the right of same sex couples to marry. Unless doing so serves a legitimate state interest, that exclusion is unconstitutional...
Feel free to indicate any such interest. If you are able. I won't hold my breath.
221...You have yet to offer any legitimate state interest served by excluding same sex couples from equal protection.
213...They have everything to do with equality under the law, which is constitutionally mandated, and that you seem to lack a rational argument against regarding same sex marriage.
204...Can you indicate even so much as a rational basis to deny equal protection for same sex couples to marry?
187...You cannot, and have not, illustrate any legitimate state interest served by denying same sex couples the right to marry.
184...but only when doing so serves a legitimate state interest. You have failed to indicate any such interest served by denying same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry.
181...and you are incapable of articulating any reason why same sex couples should be denied equal protection.
174...You've yet to be able to provide a legitimate state interest served otherwise.
172... and indicate a legitimate state interest served by EXCLUDING same sex marriage, then it protection "same sex marriage".
166...Can you indicate any legitimate state interest served by denying same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry?
160...You have consistently failed to indicate any such interest to deny same sex couples the right to marry
155...when you can't make a single on topic argument against gay marriage that satisfies the lowest level of judicial scrutiny?
150...have been utterly incapable of indicating any such interest served by denying same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry.

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sorry, i don't listen to drug adicted bigots that spout half truths at best.
You've obviously never listened to the show if that's your opinion. If you listen enough, he might even change the mind of a braindead numbskull like yourself.

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You've obviously never listened to the show if that's your opinion. If you listen enough, he might even change the mind of a braindead numbskull like yourself.
Actually, I HAVE listened to the show. What is clear is that he is frequently, demonstrably, incorrect, and that he caters to the paranoid. I'm sure to a true believer (i.e. half-wit) the show is like a drug.
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Actually, I HAVE listened to the show. What is clear is that he is frequently, demonstrably, incorrect, and that he caters to the paranoid. I'm sure to a true believer (i.e. half-wit) the show is like a drug.
How about getting on topic, troll.
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You've obviously never listened to the show if that's your opinion. If you listen enough, he might even change the mind of a braindead numbskull like yourself.
LOL. he's lied and been caught lieing to the public.

guess lieing meaning nothing to a brain dead idiot that accepts being lied to.

good luck with that chum.

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How can equality change the U.S. for the worse?
The same reason that you weirdos see no problem with some pervert using the girls bathroom because he's got an "identity crisis". You're turning this country into a freakshow in the name of "equality". That's how...

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