Gun Patriotism or Hypocrisy?

Dec 13, 2012 Full story: OpEdNews 26

Puzzling me for a long time is the inconsistency between two claims by gun and Second Amendment supporters.

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Santa Fe, NM

#1 Dec 13, 2012
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“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#2 Dec 14, 2012
1. Soap Box
2. Ballot Box
3. Jury Box
4. Cartridge Box

We haven't got to step #4 yet.
We are slowly gaining rights back through step #3.

Another question would be......why is the author of this piece so anxious to see a civil war in this country???
Better

Santa Fe, NM

#3 Dec 14, 2012
Armed Veteran wrote:
1. Soap Box
2. Ballot Box
3. Jury Box
4. Cartridge Box
We haven't got to step #4 yet.
We are slowly gaining rights back through step #3.
Another question would be......why is the author of this piece so anxious to see a civil war in this country???
question is why traitors like you hate America and want a civil war?

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#4 Dec 14, 2012
Better wrote:
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question is why traitors like you hate America and want a civil war?
Still making it up as you go along. Pretty pathetic.

I have NEVER said that I hate this country. In fact, the truth is quite the contrary. Nor have I ever said I wish to see a civil war here. Where do you come up with this shit???
why

Santa Fe, NM

#5 Dec 14, 2012
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
Still making it up as you go along. Pretty pathetic.
I have NEVER said that I hate this country. In fact, the truth is quite the contrary. Nor have I ever said I wish to see a civil war here. Where do you come up with this shit???
would you even suggest it? That shows a profound disrespect for America.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#6 Dec 14, 2012
why wrote:
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would you even suggest it? That shows a profound disrespect for America.
Did you even read the article this thread is on??

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#7 Dec 14, 2012
why wrote:
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would you even suggest it? That shows a profound disrespect for America.
And I have a very profound respect for my country. What I don't have is a very high respect for our government. BIIIIIG difference.
Hibernian

Cromwell, CT

#8 Dec 14, 2012
Shooting at school in CT. Batten down the hatches. Here come the gun haters.
Where

Watseka, IL

#9 Dec 16, 2012
The gun grabber looneys like this kind of stuff because it furthers their plans to grab guns.
They howl and cry crocodile tears but secretly they love it when stuff like this happens.

Bunch of sick muffux.

If I want to whack a bunch of people I don't need a gun - I'd just use my car.
Pick a crowded sidewalk, run down a hundred or so - then hit the gas and escape.
Better outlaw them cars!

Gun grabbers are enemies of the constitution.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#10 Dec 17, 2012
Hibernian wrote:
Shooting at school in CT. Batten down the hatches. Here come the gun haters.
Already happening. Diane Feinstein (spit) has already said she is introducing assault weapon ban legislation. Heard it this morning.
Man

Hernando, FL

#11 Dec 18, 2012
I hope the rinos and democrats embrace the political suicide of gun control - please do it!
First Take Jobs-Then Guns

Monrovia, CA

#12 Dec 18, 2012
http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.rss

Alex Jones brought up a good point on his December 17, 2012 show that most people won't talk about. Listen to the first hour of the podcasted show.

Why are hard leftist and national spotlighted politicians like Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schummer, and Michael Bloomberg -all part of the Israeli lobby in America- trying to disarm America.

They are by far the loudest voices going after the second ammendmant right now in America but openly lobby for US taxpayers to arm Israelis so they can defend themselves. And yes, Israel has a right to defend itself but so do Americans.

http://www.infowars.com/feinstein-targets-gun...

http://planet.infowars.com/guns/eric-holder-w...

The Connetecuit shootings were a horrific tragedy but going after the second ammendmant is not the answer.

These mass shootings always happen where there are strict gun control laws and the public is disarmed -remember criminals will always find access to guns whether they are outlawed or not and innocent civilians are usually the victims of mass shootings.

The answer to these mass shootings is to train and arm responsable US civilians including trusted school faculty on how to defend students from any crazies that show up until cops arrive. We need less guns in the hands of criminals and more guns in the hands of innocent law abiding citizens who are trained how to responsibly own and use firearms.

Isnt't it wierd how after the election all of a sudden all these shootings take place and now gun control is at the top of the headlines. You have the NFL (Bob Costas), news media figures, and national politicians now engaging in a full court press for gun control.

Look how the corporate media is promoting that guns be taken away so Americans citizens can't defend themselves from all forms of criminality.

The media is being absolutely transparent in its attempt to brainwash Americans into believeing that we don't have the right to defend ourselves with the second ammendmant. This should alarm all American citizens given the fact our government has been seized by Communist revolutionaries backed with offshore corporate fascist money.

These bought out political revolutionaries within our illegitimiate federal government are now aggitating the rest of the world and garnering hatred against America from countries like Russia, China, South America, and the Middle East.

The type of facism that is now being pushed in America was used in Stalanist Russia, Cuba, Nazi Germany, Fascist Argentina, Corrupt Mexico, to name a few examples. It's the same gameplan now being used on America.

And every time a country was destroyed and remade into a failed state/dictatorship it started by disarming the general public so people could get bullied by the tyrants into further authoritarianism with no way to fight back.

Now is not the time to disarm America. Pull your money out of the major banks so they can't create derivatives with it and put it in local credit unions or small banks. Call out/ vote out politicians that want to disarm America and boycott the corporate media by turning to non corporate news.

If these politicians want gun control why don't they get rid of their personal entourage of taxpayer paid for armed security/bodygaurds. They want gun control for citizens, not themselves.

Americans can put a stop to this tyrany as most people are now waking up from their trances because the tyranny is so in your face.

The New World Order lackeys must be nuts to think this gameplan will work in America for very long being this blatant. Americans of all political persuasion will never disarm -we are not stupid. Liberal or conserative we just love our freedom too damn much.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...
news flash

United States

#13 Dec 18, 2012
The true hypocrisy comes from a media that has spawned copycat after copycat by creating instant celebrities from shooters. All the while they blame guns and ignore their huge part in creating all these killers.
Thank God

Watseka, IL

#14 Dec 19, 2012
The gun-grabbers have gone NUTSO and are handing us the issue that can ruin the democrats.
The MEDIA FRENZY has touched off copycats across the country and it's like they yelled fire in a crowded theater!
The gun-grabbers are making BOGUS threats to schools - even my local elementary school was shut down by one today!

The crazies are running the democrat asylum and it is becoming glaringly obvious.
Patriot

Longmont, CO

#15 Dec 19, 2012
China Demands

The official Chinese government news agency, Xinhua, has demanded the US immediately adopt stricter gun control measures to reduce the number of firearms the US populace is permitted to possess.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/12/18...

Surprised? To the United Nations, totalitarian China is considered the model state for the future.

http://globalistagenda.org/elitebeliefs.htm

I wonder if the Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama usurper will hang his Mao ornament this Christmas....
Patriot

Longmont, CO

#16 Dec 19, 2012
Another Fast and Furious Gun Found at Mexican Murder Scene

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-5755980...
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#17 Dec 19, 2012
First Take Jobs-Then Guns wrote:
http://rss.infowars.com/Alex.r ss
Alex Jones brought up a good point on his December 17, 2012 show that most people won't talk about. Listen to the first hour of the podcasted show.
Why are hard leftist and national spotlighted politicians like Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schummer, and Michael Bloomberg -all part of the Israeli lobby in America- trying to disarm America.
They are by far the loudest voices going after the second ammendmant right now in America but openly lobby for US taxpayers to arm Israelis so they can defend themselves. And yes, Israel has a right to defend itself but so do Americans.
Considering that we have as many as 250 million cars on the road every single day (not counting trucks) with an average of fatal accidents of 150 per day is remarkable. The very reason this is possible, besides seat belts and air bags, is strict rules and regulations supported by strict enforcement. Clearly, the very same concept can be applied to safe and responsible private gun ownership.
If we were serious, for even a second, to truly consider the intentions of James Madison when he wrote the Second Amendment, one must reconstruct the environment in which he conceived it and recognize that it was a very, very different time, with very different circumstances, and very different weapons – the Musket! To put it in simple terms, all that is needed is restricting privately owned guns to ‘single shot’ and the entire controversy will disappear over night.
While hunters and gun collectors may complain about the decrease in speed and variety of weapons, no person’s sport is worth another person's man’s life. There is no logical reason that anyone should have to fire dozens of shots without reloading – unless intending to deprive that many people of life and limb. The US government must make the distinction between a weapon of war, and one that could be legitimately used for sport or self-defense.
Chief Justice Warren Burger, a conservative Republican and strict judicial constructionist, said that the concept of a constitutionally-protected individual right to bear arms was, quote:“one of the biggest pieces of fraud perpetrated on the American public by a special interest group that I have seen in my lifetime.”
When it comes to protecting freedom, Americans, including those on the Supreme Court, recognize that personal liberties must often be modified for the safety and protection of others. Yet today’s gun rights advocates routinely cite the Second Amendment of the constitution ‘the right to bear arms’ when threatened by commonsense proposals to limit, but not eliminate, modern-day weaponry. Constitutionally protected freedoms are routinely curtailed in the name of public safety, morality, or even convenience.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#18 Dec 19, 2012
This bears repeating:

Chief Justice Warren Burger, a CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN and STRICT judicial constructionist"

"...the concept of a constitutionally-protected individual right to bear arms was, quote,“one of the BIGGEST PIECES OF FRAUD PERPETRATED ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC BY A SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP that I have seen in my lifetime.”

Thank God for people brave enough to tell the truth, whether or not it is politically expedient.
Patriot

Longmont, CO

#19 Dec 19, 2012
Senator Jay Rockefeller Calls for Gun Control and More Psychoactive Drugs

http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/19/senator-jay...

Psychiatry goes insane: Every human emotion now classified as a mental disorder in new psychiatric manual DSM-5

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038322_DSM-5_psych...
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#20 Dec 19, 2012
Patriot wrote:
Senator Jay Rockefeller Calls for Gun Control and More Psychoactive Drugs
http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/19/senator-jay...
Psychiatry goes insane: Every human emotion now classified as a mental disorder in new psychiatric manual DSM-5
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038322_DSM-5_psych...
Apparently you don't know what a credible source is.

"After rapidly expanding through grassroots platforms such as BLOGtv and BLOGTALKRADIO as well as developing a loyal initial following, theintelhub.com begin to make ground in the "FREEDOM MOVEMENT..." through exclusive reporting, including on the ground information during the entire BP Oil Spill.

"This eventually lead to Shepard Ambellas’ Radio Show being picked up on various popular PARTIOT TALK RADIO stations"

That's the very definition of a biased source.

Credible sources are not part of anybody's "movement."

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