In first, Poland to pay pensions to Shoah survivors abroad

May 28, 2014 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Times of Israel

A Holocaust survivor seen during a ceremony Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland.

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Ginge

London, UK

#1 May 28, 2014
Not sure that Poland has a very good pension scheme for its own.It;s Not like the survivors put and money into the system. Many jews worked grey market and these ones wouldn't have been old enough to work legally.

This isn't a pension; this is begging and stealing. If the US want to bumlick Israel with charity that's fine but Poland needs to spend its money own their own elderly.

The EU should not give Poland money if they are only going to give it away to non-Europeans
OnlyPatchWork

Carmel, NY

#2 May 28, 2014
Ginge wrote:
Not sure that Poland has a very good pension scheme for its own.It;s Not like the survivors put and money into the system. Many jews worked grey market and these ones wouldn't have been old enough to work legally.
This isn't a pension; this is begging and stealing. If the US want to bumlick Israel with charity that's fine but Poland needs to spend its money own their own elderly.
The EU should not give Poland money if they are only going to give it away to non-Europeans
I am sure that most Polish people are against this.

As a Polish American this makes my stomach cringe.

I was born in the U.S.A.

This tribe is of a bunch of blood sucking vampires.

“Slovak,Ukrainian &Polish power ”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#3 May 28, 2014
This is just another shake down by Holocaust Industry Jews against Polish Christians.

Why should Polish taxpayers pay for the WWII victimization of Jews or Poles when Berlin and Moscow started WWII and Polish taxpayers today had nothing to do with WWII?

If these Jews want compensation they should stop trying to shakedown people who weren't responsible for WWII and should send the bill to Berlin and Moscow since Berlin and Moscow collaborated in starting WWII together.
Zioni

Kfar Saba, Israel

#4 May 28, 2014
Mr Slovak wrote:
This is just another shake down by Holocaust Industry Jews against Polish Christians.
Why should Polish taxpayers pay for the WWII victimization of Jews or Poles when Berlin and Moscow started WWII and Polish taxpayers today had nothing to do with WWII?
If these Jews want compensation they should stop trying to shakedown people who weren't responsible for WWII and should send the bill to Berlin and Moscow since Berlin and Moscow collaborated in starting WWII together.
It was Polish who stole my families property in Poland and not the Germans. Easy to blame others but my family has not received shit from them.

Poland is known for its antisemitism although so are many other places today. When I visited Poland as a teenager our group had security and we were attacked three times. Twice Neo-Nazis attacked us with one injury and a mass police arrival. Once they tried to run us over in a car-park and than followed us until we called the police.

You really try to simplify things. Why should I go to Russia or Germany to get my family property back from Poland?? It is the Polish who stole it.
OnlyPatchWork

Carmel, NY

#5 May 28, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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It was Polish who stole my families property in Poland and not the Germans. Easy to blame others but my family has not received shit from them.
Poland is known for its antisemitism although so are many other places today. When I visited Poland as a teenager our group had security and we were attacked three times. Twice Neo-Nazis attacked us with one injury and a mass police arrival. Once they tried to run us over in a car-park and than followed us until we called the police.
You really try to simplify things. Why should I go to Russia or Germany to get my family property back from Poland?? It is the Polish who stole it.
The Soviet state of Poland stole property from all Polish citizens.

You Jews should have thought about property rights when Jewish Bolsheviks were terrorizing Russia in creating the Soviet Union in Russia, including full Jew Trotsky, and partial Jew Lenin, with a long list of Jewish Bolsheviks who made up the majority of the Bolshevik government..

You Jews should have thought about property rights when Jewish Soviets terrorizing Poland to setup Soviet Poland, such as Jakub Berman, Salomon Morel, Hilary Minc, Roman Zambrowski, Roman Romkowski, Jozef Rozanski, Pawel Finder, Helena Wolinska-Brus etc.

A lot of Polish, Jews, Germans, and Ukrainians lost their property rights under Soviet Poland which the Jews disproportionately helped to create.

Maybe Jews should pay Poland compensation pensions for Jews turning concentration camps into Soviet torture slave labour camps?

Such as in the case of the Zgoda Labour Camop where Jew Salomon Morel created this camp to enslave, and torture Polish, and Germans.

Such as is the case of the Central Labour Camp in Jaworzno , where the UB ( Urzad Bezpieczenstwa) run by Jew Jakub Berman setup this camp, and this camp was run by that Jew Salomon Morel.
Rusian Assssssss

Hamilton, Canada

#6 May 28, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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It was Polish who stole my families property in Poland and not the Germans. Easy to blame others but my family has not received shit from them.
Poland is known for its antisemitism although so are many other places today. When I visited Poland as a teenager our group had security and we were attacked three times. Twice Neo-Nazis attacked us with one injury and a mass police arrival. Once they tried to run us over in a car-park and than followed us until we called the police.
You really try to simplify things. Why should I go to Russia or Germany to get my family property back from Poland?? It is the Polish who stole it.
Listen vermin! My family didn't get anything for their lost property either. What, you think only the stinking Jews had their property seised? Cry me a river bud. Btw. You "people" are the biggest thiefes, sucking money from your holocaust industry. Every big money scam in all the big corporations had a Jew be the thief. Ps Why don't you cut your jew locks off and change the scarecrow look, than people wont try to run you over :D What a piece of shit you are for that lie.
OnlyPatchWork

Carmel, NY

#7 May 28, 2014
Mr Slovak wrote:
This is just another shake down by Holocaust Industry Jews against Polish Christians.
Why should Polish taxpayers pay for the WWII victimization of Jews or Poles when Berlin and Moscow started WWII and Polish taxpayers today had nothing to do with WWII?
If these Jews want compensation they should stop trying to shakedown people who weren't responsible for WWII and should send the bill to Berlin and Moscow since Berlin and Moscow collaborated in starting WWII together.
AbeUG. If you are really Polish American as you claim.

Are you willing to orchestrate a Polish American protest of this in Greenpoint Brooklyn?
Zioni

Kfar Saba, Israel

#8 May 28, 2014
OnlyPatchWork wrote:
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The Soviet state of Poland stole property from all Polish citizens.
You Jews should have thought about property rights when Jewish Bolsheviks were terrorizing Russia in creating the Soviet Union in Russia, including full Jew Trotsky, and partial Jew Lenin, with a long list of Jewish Bolsheviks who made up the majority of the Bolshevik government..
You Jews should have thought about property rights when Jewish Soviets terrorizing Poland to setup Soviet Poland, such as Jakub Berman, Salomon Morel, Hilary Minc, Roman Zambrowski, Roman Romkowski, Jozef Rozanski, Pawel Finder, Helena Wolinska-Brus etc.
A lot of Polish, Jews, Germans, and Ukrainians lost their property rights under Soviet Poland which the Jews disproportionately helped to create.
Maybe Jews should pay Poland compensation pensions for Jews turning concentration camps into Soviet torture slave labour camps?
Such as in the case of the Zgoda Labour Camop where Jew Salomon Morel created this camp to enslave, and torture Polish, and Germans.
Such as is the case of the Central Labour Camp in Jaworzno , where the UB ( Urzad Bezpieczenstwa) run by Jew Jakub Berman setup this camp, and this camp was run by that Jew Salomon Morel.
I am not all Jews. I am a single Jew who has nothing to do with Russian Jewry. Or do you not believe in individual rights when it comes to Jews???
Zioni

Kfar Saba, Israel

#9 May 28, 2014
Rusian Assssssss wrote:
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Listen vermin! My family didn't get anything for their lost property either. What, you think only the stinking Jews had their property seised? Cry me a river bud. Btw. You "people" are the biggest thiefes, sucking money from your holocaust industry. Every big money scam in all the big corporations had a Jew be the thief. Ps Why don't you cut your jew locks off and change the scarecrow look, than people wont try to run you over :D What a piece of shit you are for that lie.
My family nor any I know has received reparations from this fund.

There are many scams which have nothing to do with Jews. Now you don't only sound antisemitic but also ignorant. What about that Pakistani Guy 1997, Mexican dude and another lebanese guy. Search yourself you bigot.

I am an atheist and don't believe in religion so go F yourself.
I wonder if you are Christian?
OnlyPatchWork

Carmel, NY

#10 May 28, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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I am not all Jews. I am a single Jew who has nothing to do with Russian Jewry. Or do you not believe in individual rights when it comes to Jews???
Do, you not believe in individual rights when it comes to Polish?

Or do you just seem Polish as a collective money bank to cash in on?

Almost all Polish people have nothing to do with seizing land from Polish, Jews, Ukrainians, Germans etc.

But, a disproportionately amount of Polish citizens who did seize land in Soviet Poland, were actually Jews.

In fact, it seems that the Soviet government that seized property from Polish citizens was actually run almost completely by Jews.

http://translate.google.com/translate...

According to Lebedev: "Bierut was completely isolated by Berman, Minc and Zambrowski who actually wielded power to make those key decisions."
OnlyPatchWork

Carmel, NY

#11 May 28, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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My family nor any I know has received reparations from this fund.
There are many scams which have nothing to do with Jews. Now you don't only sound antisemitic but also ignorant. What about that Pakistani Guy 1997, Mexican dude and another lebanese guy. Search yourself you bigot.
I am an atheist and don't believe in religion so go F yourself.
I wonder if you are Christian?
'

There are many scams which have nothing to do with Jews?

Why is it all about the Jews?

When, the Soviet state of Poland had been seized land from Polish, Ukrainians, Germans, and Jews.
OnlyPatchWork

Carmel, NY

#12 May 28, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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My family nor any I know has received reparations from this fund.
There are many scams which have nothing to do with Jews. Now you don't only sound antisemitic but also ignorant. What about that Pakistani Guy 1997, Mexican dude and another lebanese guy. Search yourself you bigot.
I am an atheist and don't believe in religion so go F yourself.
I wonder if you are Christian?
When are Israeli Jews going to pay reparations to Palestinians for all of the land they have stolen?
Zioni

Kfar Saba, Israel

#13 May 28, 2014
OnlyPatchWork wrote:
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Do, you not believe in individual rights when it comes to Polish?
Or do you just seem Polish as a collective money bank to cash in on?
Almost all Polish people have nothing to do with seizing land from Polish, Jews, Ukrainians, Germans etc.
when did I say that? You don't think if a Polish person is living in my families home in Poland we should get it back? They never bought it legally it was stolen from my family.
Zioni

Kfar Saba, Israel

#14 May 28, 2014
OnlyPatchWork wrote:
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When are Israeli Jews going to pay reparations to Palestinians for all of the land they have stolen?
Most of the land was not owned by Palestine Arabs and i believe those who lost their land in the war should be given it back or compensated. The fact is that Jews owned almost the same amount of land as Arabs here pre-Israel. The problem is when it comes to Jews people have a different rule. Basically a Jew who live pre-Israel in the West Bank on land they legally owned for centuries according to the world they have no right to it.

and you think Polish have issues.

When are the Arab countries going to pay reperations for the ethnic cleansing of their Jewish population who were very wealthy and had their property stolen???

“Slovak,Ukrainian &Polish power ”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#15 May 28, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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It was Polish who stole my families property in Poland and not the Germans. Easy to blame others but my family has not received shit from them.
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What property was this? Was it a house...a building? Does your family have a pre-war deed or documentation to this property?

And what do you mean by Polish stole your property? Do you know their names? What process has your family used to rectify this situation? Did they use the local courts?
Zioni wrote:
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It was Polish who stole my families property in Poland and not the Germans. Easy to blame others but my family has not received shit from them.
Poland is known for its antisemitism although so are many other places today. When I visited Poland as a teenager our group had security and we were attacked three times. Twice Neo-Nazis attacked us with one injury and a mass police arrival. Once they tried to run us over in a car-park and than followed us until we called the police.
You really try to simplify things. Why should I go to Russia or Germany to get my family property back from Poland?? It is the Polish who stole it.
So you say "Poland is known for its anti-Semitism" REALLY?

Although there is no doubt that there were/are bad Poles out there who are anti-Semitic....there are/were also many good Poles out there. Tell me......if Poland is/was as anti-Semitic as you say.....Don't you think Jews have to be the biggest idiots to CHOOSE to live in Poland for ONE THOUSAND YEARS? Explain that IRONY to me.
So you give some examples of bad Poles who did bad things to Jews so NOW you want to DEFINE ALL Poles by bad Poles? Isn't that called prejudice? Should we use that same mindset with Jews??????????

Do you want me to tell you about all the horrible things Jews did to Poles and Slavs.....according to JEWISH sources that I'm sure your Jewish family and friends never told you about????

Wow talk about simplifying things. For you and other Jews to SIMPLIFY and DEFINE ALL Poles by bad Poles shows you are a bigot. Should the world DEFINE Jews....like you define all Poles.....by the bad element within Jews??
And I ask you this question as somebody who has Polish Christian and Polish Jewish roots.
OnlyPatchWork

Carmel, NY

#16 May 29, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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when did I say that? You don't think if a Polish person is living in my families home in Poland we should get it back? They never bought it legally it was stolen from my family.
Soviet Poland had nationalized all property, and thus all property had been lost.

3 powerful Jews were largely in control of Poland behind this, of Jakub Berman, Hilary Minc, and Roman Zambrowski.

Many Polish lost their lands in Ukraine, Lithuania, Belarus etc as well as Polish who lost their land all over.

Many Germans lost their lands in Western Poland;.

Many Ukrainians lost their lands in Eastern Poland.

None of these people have gained their land back.
OnlyPatchWork

Carmel, NY

#17 May 29, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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when did I say that? You don't think if a Polish person is living in my families home in Poland we should get it back? They never bought it legally it was stolen from my family.
No, I don't think that your family should get back it's land, or get compensations for it.

Has your family been paying taxes on that property?

All the time when people die, the government seizes the property.
OnlyPatchWork

Carmel, NY

#18 May 29, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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Poland is known for its antisemitism although so are many other places today. When I visited Poland as a teenager our group had security and we were attacked three times. Twice Neo-Nazis attacked us with one injury and a mass police arrival. Once they tried to run us over in a car-park and than followed us until we called the police.
You really try to simplify things. Why should I go to Russia or Germany to get my family property back from Poland?? It is the Polish who stole it.
Here is an article about how Jews are prejudice against Poland.

http://ejewishphilanthropy.com/are-we-guilty-...

Are We Guilty of Gross Prejudice Towards Poland?

Mention Poland to most Jews and their immediate association is with Auschwitz, Treblinka, Majdanek and the brutal murder of some 6 million Jews. I have recently returned from two weeks in Poland attending the 24th International Nahum Goldmann Fellowship with a group of 40 young Jews from around the globe and I witnessed personally the deep psychological wounds that are still alive today in today’s generation of Jews. Even though these Jews are two or three generations removed from the horror of the Holocaust, members of the group broke down at various stages during the week-long conference, weighed down by the living, haunting memory of their families’ stories. Whenever something went wrong, if a computer crashed or a meal was late, the standing response was:“It’s Poland.” And behind this jocular response lies a real pathology. Poland has assumed a uniquely nefarious status in the collective Jewish psyche – Poland represents death, destruction, hate and unbridled, brutal antisemitism. It is seen as Jewish black hole.

Here is an article about how Israelis are a nuisance in Poland.

http://polishpress.wordpress.com/2007/05/11/i...

Israeli teenagers are a nuisance in Poland

The list of losses Israeli teenagers’ visits leave behind is long and costly. It begins with burned carpets in Polish hotels, and ends with Jewish teenagers’ trauma. But more and more often with local residents’ trauma too.

Roberto Lucchesini, originally from Tuscany, for several years now a resident of Krakow, hasn’t been sleeping well recently. Before he will be able to move his arms normally again, he will have to go through long rehab. All this because of how he was treated, in broad daylight in front of passers-by and several teenagers who were hermetically closed in their coach-buses. Israeli bodyguards, equipped with firearms, binded his arms behind his back over his head with handcuffs. In Krakow, in the middle of the street. A moment before, the Italian was trying to make coach drivers parking in front of his house turn their engines off.-‘Israelis handcuffed me, threw me on the ground, my face landed in dog excrement, and then they were kicking me’. After that the perpetrators were gone. Italian had to be freed by the Polish police.

Lucchesini moved to Kazimierz, a district of Kraków, that used to be a Jewish commune of which the only things left now are synagogues and memories, often painful. He found an apartment with a view on the synagogue.–‘Back then I had thought this was the most beautiful place on Earth’– he says –‘after some time I understood that the place is indeed beautiful, but not for its today’s residents’.

Kicking instead of answers

Another resident of Kazimierz, Beata W., office worker, is of similar opinion. Israeli security searched her handbag on one of the streets, without telling her why.
-‘When I asked what was this all about, they told me to shut up. I listened, I stopped talking, I was afraid they’d tell me to get undressed next’– she says annoyed.
A young polish Jew, who as usual in Sabbath, went to pray in his synagogue couple months ago, also didn’t get his answer. He only asked, why can’t he enter the temple. Instead of an answer, he got kicked.
Benjamin Disraeli

Podgorica, Montenegro

#19 May 29, 2014
Mr Slovak wrote:
This is just another shake down by Holocaust Industry Jews against Polish Christians.
Why should Polish taxpayers pay for the WWII victimization of Jews or Poles when Berlin and Moscow started WWII and Polish taxpayers today had nothing to do with WWII?
If these Jews want compensation they should stop trying to shakedown people who weren't responsible for WWII and should send the bill to Berlin and Moscow since Berlin and Moscow collaborated in starting WWII together.
The War started when Britain and France attack Germany in 1939,you moron.Moscow was not involved in first year and half,before 1941.
You should blame Polish government and there EU Boss for doing this.
Martix

Warsaw, Poland

#20 May 29, 2014
Don't you think that such war benefits should be paid by the invaders of Poland: Germany and Russia.

I understand that also criminals who formed criminal communist regime in Poland, oppressed Polish patriots and the Polish nation and then ran away to Israel without any punishment also can apply for such benefits from the money of Poles.

PS How about a pension for the people and their families who were murdered and persecuted in communist Poland, by the communist criminals who then escaped to Israeli and who are now protected by Israeli law? Shouldn't the Israeli nation compensate them?

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