Trull 'retires' as superintendent and...

Trull 'retires' as superintendent and is rehired as a...

There are 70 comments on the EParis Extra story from Dec 8, 2011, titled Trull 'retires' as superintendent and is rehired as a.... In it, EParis Extra reports that:

In an agreement described as a "win-win" for both Paris ISD superintendent Paul Trull and the school system, Trull retired in August and was immediately rehired by the board of trustees to continue working in the same capacity as a full-time consultant.

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Jim Crow

Kennedale, TX

#1 Dec 8, 2011
What the hell? Paul Trull retires but gets to continue being paid 125 thousand dollars a year as the "consultant". The district will no longer have a superintendent but old uncle tom Robert High will continue being the "assistant superintendent" Trull gets 400 dollars a year for joining clubs and 800 dollars a year for "personal growth" Lol. If that shit isn't wellfare, I don't know what is. That bastard certainly hasn't experienced any personal growth since his ass was selected.
Sunrise

Euless, TX

#2 Dec 8, 2011
Jim Crow wrote:
What the hell? Paul Trull retires but gets to continue being paid 125 thousand dollars a year as the "consultant". The district will no longer have a superintendent but old uncle tom Robert High will continue being the "assistant superintendent" Trull gets 400 dollars a year for joining clubs and 800 dollars a year for "personal growth" Lol. If that shit isn't wellfare, I don't know what is. That bastard certainly hasn't experienced any personal growth since his ass was selected.
I don't normally agree with you, Jim, but I agree on this except for the offensive words. You could have left those words out and still got your point across.
Why Not

Sulphur, OK

#3 Dec 8, 2011
Jim Crow wrote:
What the hell? Paul Trull retires but gets to continue being paid 125 thousand dollars a year as the "consultant". The district will no longer have a superintendent but old uncle tom Robert High will continue being the "assistant superintendent" Trull gets 400 dollars a year for joining clubs and 800 dollars a year for "personal growth" Lol. If that shit isn't wellfare, I don't know what is. That bastard certainly hasn't experienced any personal growth since his ass was selected.
Agreed. Looks like he will be double dipping. Since he is now a "consultant" he will get Social Security on these earnings and he will get a nice retirement from the teachers retirement fund too.

I don't live in the district (even though one of the buses goes by here every school day) so I don't have any influence. But, maybe, just maybe, the people that elect the school board ought to be the ones ousting the people that have come up with such a ridiculous plan so they can say "we reduced the school employees" for whatever reason must be acceptable.
somethings wrong

Paris, TX

#4 Dec 8, 2011
OMG!!!!

What's next ???
interested citizen

Tyler, TX

#5 Dec 8, 2011
Seems to me that everyone should check out the facts before making a judgement. I know for fact (read the minutes of their board meetings) that Mr. Trull retired at the end of June. Charles Richards and eParis don't have all their facts straight.
Sunrise

Euless, TX

#6 Dec 8, 2011
interested citizen wrote:
Seems to me that everyone should check out the facts before making a judgement. I know for fact (read the minutes of their board meetings) that Mr. Trull retired at the end of June. Charles Richards and eParis don't have all their facts straight.
OK. So he retired in June instead of August. When he retired is not the issue. The issue is that taypayers are still paying him $125,000 even though he retired.
overtherainbow

Paris, TX

#7 Dec 8, 2011
Doesn't matter what month he retiredd, PISD,Paul Trull are both scumbuckets for letting the double dip go on. NOW instead of PISD footing the bill they created, it's the EVERY AMERICAN THAT WORKS AND PAYS TAXES THAT'S GETTING SCREWED!
OldWhitey

Paris, TX

#8 Dec 8, 2011
Ok I read the article. Trull was an employee and is now a consultant. The move saves the district $44K over the next two years. This is due to no longer providing any further TRS pension contributions, insurance, and other benefits. The district will not have to pay social security on his wages or even withhold taxes. He will be responsible or the company the contract is paid to that pays Trull. He may be eligible for social security if he works enough quarters. This is no different than if he had already worked under social security or was hired by someone else. His social security benefits can be reduced due to his TRS pension. This is covered by government pension offset (gpo) or windfall elimination provision (wep).

This appears to be a sound financial move by the district. I'd question more why he had 4 years left on a contract while the district continues to fail state testing.
Sunrise

Euless, TX

#9 Dec 8, 2011
OldWhitey wrote:
I'd question more why he had 4 years left on a contract while the district continues to fail state testing.
That os a great question. Do you have any idea who we could get to answer it?
OldWhitey

Paris, TX

#10 Dec 8, 2011
Sunrise wrote:
<quoted text>That os a great question. Do you have any idea who we could get to answer it?
School Board. Should they not provide an adequate answer there is always an election...
maybe this

Fort Worth, TX

#11 Dec 8, 2011
Maybe this article by Senator Ratliff explains the testing scores.
Later this month, the Texas Education Agency (TEA) will release the "accountability" ratings for Texas public schools. The reason I put the word accountability in quotation marks is simple. I don't believe these ratings come anywhere close to telling the whole story to the local communities, taxpayers, parents or voters. Therefore they offer little in the way of true accountability.
Let me explain.
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Many people across the state are familiar with the terms exemplary, recognized, academically acceptable or academically unacceptable when reading about our public schools. Unfortunately, the vast majority of people have no idea what those words really mean or don't mean.
The TEA assigns these one or two-word descriptions to entire campuses and entire school districts in an attempt to provide the public with a general indication of how that campus or district is performing academically. The problem is, they don't. In fact, these rankings only tell the public how the lowest performing sub-group is doing. Yes, you read that right, the lowest.
What are the subgroups? Caucasian, African American, Hispanic, Economically Disadvantaged and Special Needs students are the sub-groups TEA tracks. So, at your local district, four out of five sub-groups could be doing great while one is struggling, and the whole campus or district gets the low ranking. The analogy I like to use is a high school track team. If the whole track team ran races every month of the year and at the end of the year EVERY team member received the worst time of the slowest runner, THAT'S our accountability rating system. Does that sound fair or accountable to you?
Me either.
People love to talk about government being run like a business. Tell me any business that issues press releases only about how the weakest part of their organization is doing. They don't do it. They tell you how the ENTIRE business is doing, the good and the bad. We should demand the same from TEA when they tell us about OUR local schools. We need a system that gives the customers (parents, students and local employers), the investors (taxpayers and voters), and the regulators (TEA and the Texas Legislature) a complete and accurate picture of the health of the entire education organization. While one or two word descriptions are easy and convenient to talk about, or for Realtors to use when selling homes, we need more information to gauge the performance of our schools.
I understand the need and support the concept of tracking different sub-groups to ensure no group of students is being ignored or falling through the cracks. But like so many government programs, anything worth doing is worth over-doing.
Why do I bring this up now? Well, earlier this year, the TEA changed the way it reports accountability ratings to the public. Without going into the weeds on the Texas Performance Measurement (TPM) system and it's flaws, let's just suffice it to say the previous system wasn't entirely accurate and tried to compensate for reporting on the lowest performing group of kids. After taking a considerable amount of flak from the Texas Legislature (which was right on target), the TEA abandoned the TPM.
What does all this mean to the average Texan? A lot of campuses and districts will drop in the ratings this year compared to last. In fact, some campuses or districts may have BETTER overall performance on the TAKS test but end up with a LOWER rating from Austin. Does this make sense to anyone? This is yet another reason why I keep saying, "It's time to tell Austin and Washington that we want our local schools back!"
My message is simple. When you see the new accountability ratings come out later this month, don't let the one word Wizard of Oz fool you. Look behind the curtain and find out what is really happening at your local school district. Don't let one adjective describe hundreds or even thousands of kids. It just can't do it.
Knucky

United States

#12 Dec 8, 2011
Usually when a Supt. retires it makes news,especially one that has been there that long. Cant tell me the Paris News didnt smell this thing a mile away and then sit on it. I saw it(blip) on the agenda back last summer and thought it was odd. Not much sun light shined on this move by the board,seems like that was the intention. This is not about moving the school district forward it's about drawing his retirment (which he deserves) but also another salary through a backroom contract deal with the board. It may save the district some money but it dosent look right nor was it handled above board like public/taxpayer business should be conducted for this position. Dont think it will be recieved well by the rank in file who are some of the lowest paid teachers in NE Texas. This is not about TAKS scores dont side track the issue...I wonder if the district would afford anyone eles this opporunity if the situation arose. I doubt it.
anon

Paris, TX

#13 Dec 8, 2011
It's pretty simple. Paul Trull turned 65 in September and is now on Medicare. He no longer needs the school district to pick up the tab for his insurance so he calculated a way that he could make more money without being encumbered by being a full time employee since he no longer needed the insurance.
Knucky

Florence, AL

#14 Dec 8, 2011
This is not about medicare. It's about drawing 100% of his retirement because of years experience and then getting paid about 100k from the district through a contracted service company. I imagine he has to pay them a percentage to keep this legal. Great move if you can pull it off. Looks like he did. Just wasnt handled right. I expect the board new this would be very controversial so it was handled the way it was.
Sunrise

Euless, TX

#15 Dec 9, 2011
Knucky wrote:
Usually when a Supt. retires it makes news,especially one that has been there that long. Cant tell me the Paris News didnt smell this thing a mile away and then sit on it. I saw it(blip) on the agenda back last summer and thought it was odd. Not much sun light shined on this move by the board,seems like that was the intention. This is not about moving the school district forward it's about drawing his retirment (which he deserves) but also another salary through a backroom contract deal with the board. It may save the district some money but it dosent look right nor was it handled above board like public/taxpayer business should be conducted for this position. Dont think it will be recieved well by the rank in file who are some of the lowest paid teachers in NE Texas. This is not about TAKS scores dont side track the issue...I wonder if the district would afford anyone eles this opporunity if the situation arose. I doubt it.
What kind of consultations will he be providing and how often? Who will he consult? What kind of advise will he give?
Sunrise

Euless, TX

#16 Dec 9, 2011
anon wrote:
It's pretty simple. Paul Trull turned 65 in September and is now on Medicare. He no longer needs the school district to pick up the tab for his insurance so he calculated a way that he could make more money without being encumbered by being a full time employee since he no longer needed the insurance.
And you think that should be the taxpayer's concern? Is that the only reason we were paying him $125,000?
OldWhitey

Paris, TX

#17 Dec 9, 2011
Sunrise wrote:
<quoted text>What kind of consultations will he be providing and how often? Who will he consult? What kind of advise will he give?
He will do exactly what he is doing now.
Jim Crow

Kennedale, TX

#18 Dec 9, 2011
OldWhitey wrote:
<quoted text>He will do exactly what he is doing now.
Which is nothing. Maybe as a consultant, he can get those school ratings up to passing. Too bad the school board doesn't spend as much time on educating the students as they do on scamming the government and saving money. If they wanted to save money, Trull wouldn't have had that multi-million dollar school built. I guess he wanted the kids to fail in an expensive environment.
crowbait

Paris, TX

#19 Dec 9, 2011
Jim Crow wrote:
<quoted text>
Which is nothing. Maybe as a consultant, he can get those school ratings up to passing. Too bad the school board doesn't spend as much time on educating the students as they do on scamming the government and saving money. If they wanted to save money, Trull wouldn't have had that multi-million dollar school built. I guess he wanted the kids to fail in an expensive environment.
Hey ole' jim!
You knows, I hates to say it but ..... I believe you is right!

Ballad did it, Trull is doing it, and his "yes man" Preston will be next. Trull pushed the new school down people's throat so he could always have his name in lights at everyone else's expense. Funny how the old High School was deemed to old, too worn out, too outdated, too costly, and unfit to use or repair as it was but after the new one was approved all of a sudden that very same building with a little work became a Jr. High School.
Jim Crow

Kennedale, TX

#20 Dec 10, 2011
OldWhitey wrote:
Ok I read the article. Trull was an employee and is now a consultant. The move saves the district $44K over the next two years. This is due to no longer providing any further TRS pension contributions, insurance, and other benefits. The district will not have to pay social security on his wages or even withhold taxes. He will be responsible or the company the contract is paid to that pays Trull. He may be eligible for social security if he works enough quarters. This is no different than if he had already worked under social security or was hired by someone else. His social security benefits can be reduced due to his TRS pension. This is covered by government pension offset (gpo) or windfall elimination provision (wep).
This appears to be a sound financial move by the district. I'd question more why he had 4 years left on a contract while the district continues to fail state testing.
Don't you pretty much support everything that the public officials do in Paris no matter what it is? If they said they were going to spend a billion dollars on shit balls for a shit ball throwing contest, you'd support that.

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