Pension plus salary add up

Pension plus salary add up

There are 21 comments on the Newsday story from Apr 24, 2008, titled Pension plus salary add up. In it, Newsday reports that:

Nassau's longtime Civil Service Commissioner Karl Kampe has joined the ranks of Long Island 's double-dippers, collecting both a public salary and public pension.

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Just wondering

Floral Park, NY

#1 Apr 24, 2008
"Scott Davis, who sits on the three-member civil service commission, said the county will actually save $30,000 a year "
Doesn't save me anything! Taxpayers still pay twice.
Who does this guy think he's fooling ?
East Meadow Taxpayer

Hempstead, NY

#2 Apr 24, 2008
This time, the salary is a bargain. There is no one more qualified for the job than Karl Kampe and it comes at a time when the County has out of state consultants focusing on eliminating job titles, consolidating departments, etc. If he stayed only another year, his salary would end up saving the County millions. He is an expert in Civil Service Law, rose through the ranks in 37 years and was never a 9-5 worker-more like 7 days a week and available at home as well. He is respected by all who know him.
And consider this- he's making half of most of the NUMC Executive Staff-and none of them have been there more than 6 years!!!!!! I wonder if Art Gianelli had a meeting with them and asked them to take a 10% pay cut to save the hospital.
Pfluger the Union Monkey

Boston, MA

#3 Apr 24, 2008
Just wondering wrote:
"Scott Davis, who sits on the three-member civil service commission, said the county will actually save $30,000 a year "
Doesn't save me anything! Taxpayers still pay twice.
Who does this guy think he's fooling ?
Union monkeys and government hacks practive alternative forms of math.
Pfluger the Union Monkey

Boston, MA

#4 Apr 24, 2008
"Scott Davis, who sits on the three-member civil service commission, said the county will actually save $30,000 a year because it no longer has to contribute to Kampe's pension, while it retains his professional expertise at a lower cost"

Hacks and liars. Compeletely ignores the amounts paid out thru the pension fund. Which will mean the county pays incrementally more into the pension fund, but they don't count that.

Union monkeys and politicians always treat the pensions as though its funny money, but tax dollars fund the pension (with some employee contributions).

What complete and utter dishonesty.
Pfluger the Union Monkey

Boston, MA

#5 Apr 24, 2008
Wow, over 200K per year. Yet another civil service millionaire.

You Long Islanders sure are generous. I needed to save some money for my own family and our retirement, so I had to move away.

Thanks to people like this man. And its all perfectly legal.
Government Donkey

Medford, NY

#6 Apr 24, 2008
Why look at the negative (i.e. double payments)?....Let's look at the positive, we are saving $30,000. Come on people, we are SAVING money. Are you stupid or something?
Gravedigger

Greenport, NY

#7 Apr 24, 2008
Unbelievable, Celeste Hadrick's article states, "Suozzi yesterday referred comment to his chief deputy Marilyn Gottlieb, who said the civil service commission hires or fires its director, not the county executive". Well, the civil service director is Karl Kampe. He hires and fires himself? What a great system. We should all have jobs like this! Also, thanks to KK for saving the taxpayers thousands of $$, maybe you can now give yourself a raise!
Ridiculous

Floral Park, NY

#8 Apr 24, 2008
East Meadow Taxpayer wrote:
This time, the salary is a bargain. There is no one more qualified for the job than Karl Kampe and it comes at a time when the County has out of state consultants focusing on eliminating job titles, consolidating departments, etc. If he stayed only another year, his salary would end up saving the County millions. He is an expert in Civil Service Law, rose through the ranks in 37 years and was never a 9-5 worker-more like 7 days a week and available at home as well. He is respected by all who know him.
And consider this- he's making half of most of the NUMC Executive Staff-and none of them have been there more than 6 years!!!!!! I wonder if Art Gianelli had a meeting with them and asked them to take a 10% pay cut to save the hospital.
Hello ?? If he only needs to stay another year - then stop the pension.
What are you - his lawyer nephew?
Taxpayers all over are getting fed up with public servants getting rich off public funding. I have to worry about $4 gas, over $4 oil, just got down-sized two weeks ago and this is SAVING money? In liew of the recent pension issues - you'd think he would know better anyway. You may think he deserves respect - but not after this.
anonymous

Bristol, CT

#9 Apr 24, 2008
Karl Kampe has dragged down the nassau county civil service commission from an agency that was highly respected statewide to a ludicrous laughingstock of crony ism.
East Meadow Taxpayer

Hempstead, NY

#10 Apr 24, 2008
Ridiculous wrote:
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Hello ?? If he only needs to stay another year - then stop the pension.
What are you - his lawyer nephew?
Taxpayers all over are getting fed up with public servants getting rich off public funding. I have to worry about $4 gas, over $4 oil, just got down-sized two weeks ago and this is SAVING money? In liew of the recent pension issues - you'd think he would know better anyway. You may think he deserves respect - but not after this.
No I am not his lawyer nephew. I am just a taxpayer familiar with the pension system. Karl Kampe was retiring-he is eligble for his pension. Since the County couldn't stop him-they offered him his salary to stay. He's only supposed to be allowed to make $30,000 if he stays with the County after he retires-but an exception was made due to his knowledge.
Phenomenal

Floral Park, NY

#11 Apr 24, 2008
"We think that Karl Kampe is the most highly qualified person available for the job," said Davis,"
Yeah - how many other people were interviewed?
Or even considered?
Let me guess.......... NONE !
"I think I have the right to work and quite honestly I could have worked other places for more money than I'm getting here," Kampe said. "I don't consider myself a double-dipper"
No, but you are! Your salary just went up by $100G. Two different paychecks with the same source - hence - a double dipper.
You obviously live by the civil servant motto: I swear to.......... screw the public whenever I can.
If you are a true civil servnt with a conscience - you'll get out now, or give up the pension until really retire.
Despicable!
Outraged

Floral Park, NY

#12 Apr 24, 2008
East Meadow Taxpayer wrote:
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No I am not his lawyer nephew. I am just a taxpayer familiar with the pension system. Karl Kampe was retiring-he is eligble for his pension. Since the County couldn't stop him-they offered him his salary to stay. He's only supposed to be allowed to make $30,000 if he stays with the County after he retires-but an exception was made due to his knowledge.
Obviously the nys pension sytem needs to be seriously overhauled.
And who approved the exception?
County Exec Suozzi? Governor Paterson?
Are any gov't officials out there listening? This guy got a $100K raise in one day and you're actually defending the move?
Suozzi

Jamaica, NY

#13 Apr 24, 2008
Gravedigger wrote:
Unbelievable, Celeste Hadrick's article states, "Suozzi yesterday referred comment to his chief deputy Marilyn Gottlieb, who said the civil service commission hires or fires its director, not the county executive". Well, the civil service director is Karl Kampe. He hires and fires himself? What a great system. We should all have jobs like this! Also, thanks to KK for saving the taxpayers thousands of $$, maybe you can now give yourself a raise!
Suozzi in other words... "Humada Humada Humada. It's not my fault, I only take credit for good things."

Suozzi is and has always been a complete zero!
Pfluger the Union Monkey

Boston, MA

#14 Apr 24, 2008
East Meadow Taxpayer wrote:
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No I am not his lawyer nephew. I am just a taxpayer familiar with the pension system. Karl Kampe was retiring-he is eligble for his pension. Since the County couldn't stop him-they offered him his salary to stay. He's only supposed to be allowed to make $30,000 if he stays with the County after he retires-but an exception was made due to his knowledge.
In what other professions can one "retire," receive a pension, but stay on the same job for slightly reduced pay????

How can anyone rationalize this?

No elected official in New York gives a damn about the taxpayers. Not one. They go along, to get along, and get their cronies hired for patronage jobs, and get the unions to vote them into their lifetime elected offices.

This is an outrage, and yet there are people who defend it. Multiply this incident by 100,000, and that is why your taxes are so damned high.
Nassau Nell

Albany, NY

#15 Apr 25, 2008
Karl Kampe will do Suozzi's bidding as long as he keeps getting paid...twice.
Joseb

New York, NY

#16 Apr 25, 2008
Take this article, copy and paste and e-mail it to all State officials and County officials. After that you can come up with your own personal analysis and let them know that we are on to their scheme. We the people want this done away with,“PERMANENTLY".
j berry

Paterson, NJ

#17 Apr 29, 2008
Kampe also served as Vice President of Human Resources Nassau Health Care Corporation, a NYS public benefit corporation-state agency, at a salary well over $100,000 December 2002 and December 2003 before returning to Nassau Civil Service Commission. Was he receiving a public pension while also drawing salary from NHCC?
Vox Populi

Shirley, NY

#18 May 7, 2008
this is a spectacular example of wretched excess. I cease to be amazed at what politicians and civil servants at the trough can justify in the OWN minds.
Someone who was let go

Brooklyn, NY

#19 Nov 4, 2013
Rot in Hell Karl Kampe
Evil Kampe

Brooklyn, NY

#20 Nov 4, 2013
Karl Kampe approved the certified payroll for 4 years, then decides that it is not in his best interests to have that employee employeed at the school district anymore. The employee should have never been hired if it was against the law. he gave up a 19 years career to work in the school. So Kampe threatens to sue the BOE personally for the employees salary for the 4 years if they don't get rid of him. What does the District do... terminate him! That guy had 4 college degrees and was making less than others in the county doing the same job. Kampe should have let it go and let NYS provide the exam and let them deal with it. Way to ruin a guys career and put him in the poor house with 3 young kids. What an a**hole Kampe is.
Oh, Kampe was fired once before... what ba shame they brought him back so he can break the law for his own benefit.
The school hired a new guy with less experience and less credentials for more money. Way to save money for the tax payers. What a crime!

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