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Boeing workers reject plan linked to 777X in Wash.

There are 123 comments on the Yahoo! story from Nov 14, 2013, titled Boeing workers reject plan linked to 777X in Wash.. In it, Yahoo! reports that:

Despite warnings that production of Boeing's next generation 777 plane could go to another state, machinists in the Northwest voted to reject a contract proposal late Wednesday that would have exchanged concessions for decades of secure jobs.

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CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#124 Dec 10, 2013
Yall gonna send him after 20 Yards of fightline, a gallon of prop wash, a screw removal tool and have him adjust the spring tension on the pilots exceptional release too.!! Dont forget to check the stick actuator out really well also. See ya.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#125 Dec 10, 2013
The Truth wrote:
Hey freak, obviously, you have been taking too many estrogen pills and is confusing yourself 777 with 787. Cross dressing unstable moron should stay away from airplanes. We are ALL confused your incoherent and psychotic babble about AS-9102 and we build airplanes to type designed specified by the [real] engineers and FAA.
First, your a used parts salesman and now your an engineer. So tell me what system does Boeing use on the 787 use for engineering specs if you say who you are? And what does manufacturing technicians use to build the aircraft? What form do we use to MEL for Test Flight? Who can override a NOT OK TO FLY item for test flight? How many hours can a pre-flight be valid for after completion of the task? What is most common type of sealant used on the aircraft? What document is used in the wire installation of 787 and requirements for fiber optics?
Of course you and your ilk are confused - you have no idea what an AS-9102 form is?

It's an aerospace inspection form - required for ALL aerospace parts. Tracking of material certs, nominal tolerances, FEA analysis, all the things you know nothing about.

You really are out of your league son - go away now, and rebuild a Pontiac or some other car you shitkickers do down there.

Sealant? For which part of the aircraft you moron?
Buck Farrack

Sun City, AZ

#126 Dec 11, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
All you little internet warriors / what would you do if you actually had to stand in front of me and talk trash?
Cry probably and say I really didn't mean it!!
Bunch of wussies!
Still breathing?
Can't EVEN follow simple directions.
Just - Stop - Breathing...
No one gives a HEALTHY FLUCK about your opnions, which have had NOTHING to do with the topic.
This is about union twerps like you, who aren't worth the crap they produce. The facts are that YOUR job can be done better and cheaper without the company killing union overhead, and JUST like the bakers at Hostess, you can and will be replaced.
You are a pathetic self-important pile of Obama.
Now go back to lickimg your Obama poster, and then maybe have a heart attack with your orgasm.
If I want anything further out of you, I'll stop by and beat it out of you.. On second thought, you spout enough crap already.
The Truth

Eden Prairie, MN

#127 Dec 12, 2013
Your full of $hit. Boeing does NOT USE AS-9102 on manufacturing of NEW aircraft, MORON. Boeing uses part instance number for traceability and Rev. That's why we have PC700. AS-9102 are used for refurbished aircraft parts for the airlines and MRO. Your lack of knowledge of Boeing process speaks for itself.
A used parts salesman always a used parts salesman.
Really, are you that retarded. Type of sealant for aero-smooth,ground blocks,CRNs,tank and etc., jackass. They are used throughout the aircraft.
Go back to your sweet shop making fake aircraft parts and let the real aviation maintenance tech work.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#129 Dec 12, 2013
The Truth wrote:
Your full of $hit. Boeing does NOT USE AS-9102 on manufacturing of NEW aircraft, MORON. Boeing uses part instance number for traceability and Rev. That's why we have PC700. AS-9102 are used for refurbished aircraft parts for the airlines and MRO. Your lack of knowledge of Boeing process speaks for itself.
A used parts salesman always a used parts salesman.
Really, are you that retarded. Type of sealant for aero-smooth,ground blocks,CRNs,tank and etc., jackass. They are used throughout the aircraft.
Go back to your sweet shop making fake aircraft parts and let the real aviation maintenance tech work.
Last response to a f'in moron like you - not really worthy of my time;

"DEFINITION:

FIRST ARTICLE INSPECTION PLANNING

First Article Inspection (FAI) planning prior to first production run parts. FAI Planning typically
involves:
&#61623; Activities to be performed throughout the First Article Inspection process and the
responsible organizations for those activities
&#61623; Design characteristics to be verified
&#61623; Digital Product Definition (DPD) design characteristics required for product realization, not
fully defined on 2D drawing, are extracted from DPD including tolerances for nominal
dimensions.
&#61623; Determining what specific evidence of design characteristics are to be included in the FAI
&#61623; Ensuring approved Special Process, laboratory, and material sources are used (as
applicable), and the applicable manufacturing, planning, routing, and purchasing
documents call out the correct specifications
&#61623; Key Characteristics are identified and Critical Item requirements are met, as applicable (see
AS9103 for guidance on Key Characteristics)
&#61623; Part specific gages and tooling are qualified and traceable, as applicable
&#61623; Decisions on whether changes in the process require an updated FAI

First Production Run parts: The first group of one or more parts that are the result of a planned
process designed to be used for future production of these same parts.

Digital Product Definition (DPD): Requirements of any digital data files that disclose (directly or
by reference) the physical or functional requirements, including data files that disclose the
design or acceptance criteria (e.g., 3D model, solid, etc.)"

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/loc...

"Aviation and Aerospace[edit]
AS9102 is the Aerospace Standard for First Article Inspection Requirements. First Article Inspection Report (FAIR) can be documented on Forms 1 (Part Number Accountability), 2 (Product Accountability), and 3 (Characteristic Accountability, Verification and Compatibility Evaluation).
In general this is the aerospace equivalent of the automotive PPAP, Production Part Approval Process. PPAP requires larger quantity of components than would be typically manufactured for aircraft components.
Many large aerospace companies including Bombardier Aerospace, and Spirit AeroSystems have recently switched to enhanced first article inspections in order to keep track of the numerous first articles received by different companies within the company's supply chain. Suppliers to these companies, including Machine Shops, are also turning to enhanced first article inspections to improve manufacturing productivity and throughput by eliminating the manual process of creating FAIs."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_article_in...

I'm done spanking the shit of of an idiot like you - now STFU already, and go find a nice assembly job you parasite!
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#131 Dec 19, 2013
Things sure got quiet after strike two. Strike three and Boeing may still be heading elsewhere. No concessions, no jobs. Now that's really cutting off your nose to spite your face!
Cat74

Oswego, IL

#132 Dec 20, 2013
Maybe Boeing should move to a right to work location where the people will be happy, and productive.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#133 Dec 20, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Maybe Boeing should move to a right to work location where the people will be happy, and productive.
Boeing has put out requests for states to offer incentive packages. Some people may think it's only a bluff but the bluff gets serious when the jobs are gone to more company friendly states without the burden of labor strangulation. Trying to find jobs paying what Boeing did to continue their current lifestyle may be a slight problem for the out of work employees. Maybe the union already has a secret plan to take care of their people.
Cat74

Oswego, IL

#134 Dec 20, 2013
Of course the Union has plans for the unemployed workers. It is called the Government welfare.
steve

Greensburg, PA

#136 Dec 21, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Maybe Boeing should move to a right to work location where the people will be happy, and productive.
And pay wages that you can make at wal mart

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#137 Dec 21, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
Things sure got quiet after strike two. Strike three and Boeing may still be heading elsewhere. No concessions, no jobs. Now that's really cutting off your nose to spite your face!
The ignorant, ill informed, and with obvious lack of knowledge of the aerospace industry bore me. Argue an issue you have knowledge of son - you don't belong here, as does Cnutnip74 - a liar in every forum that POS infests.

You were already hit with facts you've yet to debunk - because I've worked in this industry for almost 30 years son - you're spouted so much nonsense, and yet make no coherent sense at all.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#138 Dec 22, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
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The ignorant, ill informed, and with obvious lack of knowledge of the aerospace industry bore me. Argue an issue you have knowledge of son - you don't belong here, as does Cnutnip74 - a liar in every forum that POS infests.
You were already hit with facts you've yet to debunk - because I've worked in this industry for almost 30 years son - you're spouted so much nonsense, and yet make no coherent sense at all.
And you think Boeing can't go on without you. You really have them by the gonads and they will come crawling back to you any moment asking for forgiveness for even thinking of moving a production facility away from there. Buzzzzzzz, Alarm's going off. Time to wake up.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#139 Dec 22, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
<quoted text>
The ignorant, ill informed, and with obvious lack of knowledge of the aerospace industry bore me. Argue an issue you have knowledge of son - you don't belong here, as does Cnutnip74 - a liar in every forum that POS infests.
You were already hit with facts you've yet to debunk - because I've worked in this industry for almost 30 years son - you're spouted so much nonsense, and yet make no coherent sense at all.
Ignorant? Let's see who's ignorant when the rank and file vote down the next contract offer Jan.3 We'll see if they stand their ground or back down to preserve their jobs.
The Truth

Eden Prairie, MN

#141 Dec 26, 2013
He wants to work for Boeing but was told to take a hike after his interview and show signs of unstability.

First, he tells us he works with aviation parts with Boeing. Sounds more like part time UPS delivering parts to airlines at JFK. Then he claims he works with engineers and can't spew out 787 software used by engineering to look up vendor and build verification.

Last time moron. Your very slow to catch onto things. There is a difference between production aircraft, FAA ticketed and CFR14 part 91, 135 and 141 certification. At Boeing, we have production aircraft that are assembled in the factory. Then you have ticketed aircraft which is FAA AIRWORTHY AND ARE BUILT TO ENGINEERING TYPED DESIGNED.

Boeing production aircraft are built BAC and D6 documentation legacy or not, NOT AS9102. AMT sign off for every job is signed off to BAC and D6 documentation even the flight squawks, EPD, logbook, Form 1 and velocity.

Get a real life troll, and put in your fake resume to Airbus.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#142 Dec 26, 2013
The Truth wrote:
Tony is right. I'm just compensating for the small dick in my mouth.
Keep your private affairs to yourself homo.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#143 Dec 27, 2013
YES or NO on the Jan. 3rd vote?? A yes vote will show all other labor choked industries that there can be concessions in labor negotiations when there is the possibility of many states competing with very generous incentive packages to move any company there. A no vote will show that Mr.Buffenbarger's troops are ready to stand their ground and call Boeing's bluff. Do they stand or kneel? We'll see on Jan. 3rd
The Truth

Eden Prairie, MN

#146 Dec 30, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>Ignorant? Let's see who's ignorant when the rank and file vote down the next contract offer Jan.3 We'll see if they stand their ground or back down to preserve their jobs.
Keep driving those UPS trucks.
The Truth

Eden Prairie, MN

#147 Dec 30, 2013
Tony drives or UPS.
ThomasA

Chelsea, AL

#148 Dec 31, 2013
The Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Keep driving those UPS trucks.
The media says the workers and union leaders are pushing for another NO vote to call Boeing's bluff so maybe those UPS jobs might not be so bad when you're out on the street looking in. For that matter, McDonalds and Walmart will have thousands of applications to choose from when the vote backfires.
The Truth

Eden Prairie, MN

#150 Jan 7, 2014
There are thousands of people who are unemployed are willing to work for less and to be non-union since they came from 30 years of airline line maintenance experience who have bad experience with the unions.

At Boeing, we have production employees who have no A&P, real airline experience and have no troubleshooting skills. They come from pizza hut, burger express joints and low wage employers who think that they deserved to make 100,000/year when they are disgruntled, non-skilled and basically does NOT deserved to be in the position they are in.

They are the same workers who shut down production and the ONLY Boeing 787 produced over at Everett with problem. LOT engine filters, wiring on Etheopian, panel falling off on Air India, Norweigian, United Aft EE fire, JAL wing tank fuel problems just to name a few.

In Charleston, maybe we have slight problem with production employees who have not enough experience but that was 21/2 years ago and our flightline mechanics have 20 years airline average experience. We did experienced main gear minor hydraulic leaks due to production does NOT inflate the struts and have sat on the bottom for months. None of our 787 have any problem.

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