GOP attacks Obama over Bush tax cuts

[Le Jimbo]

Snow Bunny_ wrote:

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Jimbo,
1. Ryan released his first plan in 2011...less than a YEAR ago!
He suddenly changed his tune when he was nominated VP running mate:)
SO, he's a flip flopper!?
ALSO, from Politifact:
"The Obama ad would have been more accurate if it had specified that it was referring to a previous Ryan plan for Medicare. We simply don’t have enough details to know how much extra money seniors might have to pay under the current Ryan plan. Still, the Obama campaign gave itself some wiggle room by saying that the plan "could" raise out-of-pocket costs by more than $6,000. On balance, we rate the statement Mostly True."
2. Mitt Romney attack add Repeats false claim:
Mitt Romney's presidential campaign has released a new TV advertisement falsely claiming President Barack Obama has ended work requirements for Americans receiving welfare benefits.
Many other respected newspapers, along with an author of the 1996 welfare reform law, have called the Romney camp's welfare ads brazenly false. The Times-Dispatch itself noted on Monday that Romney's welfare ads have been debunked many times.
3. So, are Conservatives not playing on a level playing field in your opinion too?

making excuses for Obama to use the WRONG plan is not going to work cupcake. He knows what distortions are and has used them effectivly before. Saul Alinsky taught him well.

[Snow Bunny_]

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Do you only build a foundations with one brick?

Oh stop it with the "brick" deflection!
The GOP is running on the tax cut staying in place for the top most wealthy because it "CREATES JOBS"!.
Those are THEIR WORDS! Nothing about multiple bricks! They said the tax cut ALONE creates jobs!
and Letting Bush tax cuts expire (like intended by Bush) will HURT the top wealthy CREATING JOBS (according to repubs)!

SO...please answer:
If the current tax rates for "job creators" creates jobs, where are the jobs from the past ten years of tax cuts? Why didn't the Bush tax cuts create jobs instead of massive unemployment at the end of his term?

Those who neglect history are doomed to repeat it.

[Go Blue]

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Do you only build a foundations with one brick?

Hey Bigshot,....answer the Lady.....WHERE ARE THE JOBS, THE TAXBREAKS WERE GONNA PRODUCE?

[Snow Bunny_]

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>making excuses for Obama to use the WRONG plan is not going to work cupcake. He knows what distortions are and has used them effectivly before. Saul Alinsky taught him well.

1. Can you read?
Obama sourced the OLD plan, because it specified what the elderly would pay. The NEW plan will not specify on that!

2. Why is that?
You will run and hide from the question..I bet!

3. Can you tell me what the difference between the two plans (Ryans old/new) plan is?
No...you won't. You will run and cower and dodge doing that!
You're unAmerican!

4. How much extra money will seniors have to pay under the current Ryan plan?
Run? Answer?

5. Do you have ANY comment on the FALSE Mitt attack welfare ad on Obama?
No?

6. Do you have an unease about Ryan suddenly changing his tune when he was nominated VP running mate?

7. Is he's a flip flopper!?

[Cat74]

Obamacare tax is so much worse then anything Ryan could devise that it doesn't matter. As soon as the Supreme Court ruled on Obamacare tax it was over for Obama. He wasted his entire term on a useless piece of legislation, when he should have been working toward creating jobs, and solving our economic problems.

[Le Jimbo]

Snow Bunny_ wrote:

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Oh stop it with the "brick" deflection!
The GOP is running on the tax cut staying in place for the top most wealthy because it "CREATES JOBS"!.
Those are THEIR WORDS! Nothing about multiple bricks! They said the tax cut ALONE creates jobs!
and Letting Bush tax cuts expire (like intended by Bush) will HURT the top wealthy CREATING JOBS (according to repubs)!
SO...please answer:
If the current tax rates for "job creators" creates jobs, where are the jobs from the past ten years of tax cuts? Why didn't the Bush tax cuts create jobs instead of massive unemployment at the end of his term?
Those who neglect history are doomed to repeat it.

Call Harry Reid and tell him to bring the 28 bills that promote the economy and jobs up for a voted and we will see cupcake.

[Le Jimbo]

Go Blue wrote:

<quoted text>Hey Bigshot,....answer the Lady.....WHERE ARE THE JOBS, THE TAXBREAKS WERE GONNA PRODUCE?

call Obama, he is the one that signed them last.......he's been pivoting to jobs for 4 years..........where are they. Obama, I will cut the deficite in half and produce 600,000 jobs a month........he is the only President with negative job creation numbers.....

[Le Jimbo]

Snow Bunny_ wrote:

<quoted text>
1. Can you read?
Obama sourced the OLD plan, because it specified what the elderly would pay. The NEW plan will not specify on that!
2. Why is that?
You will run and hide from the question..I bet!
3. Can you tell me what the difference between the two plans (Ryans old/new) plan is?
No...you won't. You will run and cower and dodge doing that!
You're unAmerican!
4. How much extra money will seniors have to pay under the current Ryan plan?
Run? Answer?
5. Do you have ANY comment on the FALSE Mitt attack welfare ad on Obama?
No?
6. Do you have an unease about Ryan suddenly changing his tune when he was nominated VP running mate?
7. Is he's a flip flopper!?

So according to you Obama should be running on his record from his promises during the 2008 election.........wonder why he isn't running on his record..........of failure.

[Snow Bunny_]

Cat74 wrote:

Obamacare tax is so much worse then anything Ryan could devise that it doesn't matter.

How so?
Can you be specific as to why you come to that conclusion?
...or are you trying to be misleading?

Cat74 wrote:

As soon as the Supreme Court ruled on Obamacare tax it was over for Obama.

Can you be specific?
How do you know this?
Is this your moot opinion?

Cat74 wrote:

He wasted his entire term on a useless piece of legislation,

Useless? Really? WOW!
Ignorance:)

Cat74 wrote:

when he should have been working toward creating jobs, and solving our economic problems.

Lets see: he saved the economy from collapse, he saved to auto industry, he pulled troops from Iraq, oil production at an 8 year high, jobless rate down, Stock market and DOW at a 5 year high, saved many homes, and he got Bin Laden....is that bad?

[Snow Bunny_]

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Call Harry Reid and tell him to bring the 28 bills that promote the economy and jobs up for a voted and we will see cupcake.

That makes absolutely no sense :/

[Le Jimbo]

Snow Bunny_ wrote:

<quoted text>That makes absolutely no sense :/

You ask where the jobs were, and at the same time know Reid is blocking 28 house bills that were to promote growth and jobs......are you just trying to look dumb or is it a more lenghty situation.

[George from Athens]

Snow Bunny_ wrote:

<quoted text>How so?
Can you be specific as to why you come to that conclusion?
...or are you trying to be misleading?
<quoted text>Can you be specific?
How do you know this?
Is this your moot opinion?
<quoted text>Useless? Really? WOW!
Ignorance:)
<quoted text>Lets see: he saved the economy from collapse, he saved to auto industry, he pulled troops from Iraq, oil production at an 8 year high, jobless rate down, Stock market and DOW at a 5 year high, saved many homes, and he got Bin Laden....is that bad?

Pulling troops from Iraq WAS bad!!! The Iraqi people need protection!!!

George Katsaris, Athens, Greece :-)

[Cat74]

I am so glad you mentioned the Auto Industry victory. Yes, Obama created jobs in the industry in Finland. Americans will never buy GM. If they want a new car they will buy foreign, or Ford. I heard the Democrats are celebrating that victory one night of their Convention. That is so good. The Conservative pundits will have a field day. In reality Democrats have nothing to celebrate.

[Redman]

It will really hurt us if Obama ends the Bush tax cuts....all of us, the poor included, if you think not vote for Obama and wait and see.

[Le Jimbo]

Cat74 wrote:

I am so glad you mentioned the Auto Industry victory. Yes, Obama created jobs in the industry in Finland. Americans will never buy GM. If they want a new car they will buy foreign, or Ford. I heard the Democrats are celebrating that victory one night of their Convention. That is so good. The Conservative pundits will have a field day. In reality Democrats have nothing to celebrate.

A sure sign of the liberals success it the fact they cut one day from their propaganda fest because they lack the money from their supporters.........I guess Buffett and Soros are tired of getting no ROI.

[Kermudgeon]

How quickly we forget that Democrats left W a huge excess which Jr. quickly squandered.

[American_Infidel]

Kermudgeon wrote:

How quickly we forget that Democrats left W a huge excess which Jr. quickly squandered.

Still blaming Bush, get over it.

Obama's great Depression is far worse than Bush economy could ever have been.

[GoodNewz]

Cat74 wrote:

I am so glad you mentioned the Auto Industry victory. Yes, Obama created jobs in the industry in Finland. Americans will never buy GM. If they want a new car they will buy foreign, or Ford. I heard the Democrats are celebrating that victory one night of their Convention. That is so good. The Conservative pundits will have a field day. In reality Democrats have nothing to celebrate.

they will also crow that GM has "fully paid back all the cash". and that will be true. but the govt still owns 500 million shares of GM stock that sits at $21 per share. in order for the taxpayers to break even, the share price needs to be $53/share. so we are DOWN $26 billion. but the union is sitting pretty....

[American_Infidel]

Kermudgeon wrote:

How quickly we forget that Democrats left W a huge excess which Jr. quickly squandered.

Obama inherited a triple A credit rating, 5% unemployment, 1.89 a gal gas from Bush and he completely fcked it up...

[American_Infidel]

Snow Bunny_ wrote:

<quoted text>That makes absolutely no sense :/

It would if you had a brain.