Dakota County program helps repentent...

Dakota County program helps repentent drivers stop spinning their w...

There are 20 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Aug 14, 2010, titled Dakota County program helps repentent drivers stop spinning their w.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Two years ago, Dominic Kielas Jr. was in a jam: pay his mortgage on time or pay a $200 speeding ticket.

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nunyabizness

Burnsville, MN

#1 Aug 15, 2010
I don't know about you, but I would say the guy needs a drivers manual and remedial drivers training more than anything else. How do you get pulled over 15 times in two years? I don't think I've seen 15 troopers in the last 2 years.
yo-yo

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Aug 15, 2010
Blah blah blah.Stick any court mandated program,and shove it.

Since: Aug 09

Duluth, MN

#4 Aug 15, 2010
"Two years ago, Dominic Kielas Jr. was in a jam: pay his mortgage on time or pay a $200 speeding ticket.

Kielas chose the mortgage and eventually found himself with a suspended driver's license, which led to another quandary for the general contractor: drive to job sites or don't work.

"I was stuck," said Kielas, 24, of Minnetonka. "I had to drive." "

OR...

You could put down the smokes, the cell phone, and buy a house you can afford each month so you can pay incidental things, like paying a $200 ticket.

Instead, he just flaunted the law, and now suddenly is repentant? Please...

Since: Aug 09

Duluth, MN

#5 Aug 15, 2010
nunyabizness wrote:
I don't know about you, but I would say the guy needs a drivers manual and remedial drivers training more than anything else. How do you get pulled over 15 times in two years? I don't think I've seen 15 troopers in the last 2 years.
He clearly doesn't care about the law. They SHOULD have taken away his contractor's license, and his equipment, to pay for his fines.

“Ahhhh hee ahw”

Since: Aug 09

Twin Cities

#7 Aug 16, 2010
Incredible70 wrote:
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He clearly doesn't care about the law. They SHOULD have taken away his contractor's license, and his equipment, to pay for his fines.
Traffic laws have become nothing more than a fund-raising tool, and do not deserve our respect. I pretend to respect them in the vicinity of cops.

Since: Aug 09

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Aug 16, 2010
sock wrote:
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Traffic laws have become nothing more than a fund-raising tool, and do not deserve our respect. I pretend to respect them in the vicinity of cops.
Weird...I've not gotten a ticket for 20 years or more. They don't raise any funds off me. I guess they are like overdraft fees. If you follow the rules, you don't get tickets and you don't owe money. Weird how that works, huh?

Since: Jun 08

Apple Valley, MN

#10 Aug 16, 2010
I won't lie, I have a lead foot. But I don't think I've been pulled over 15 times in my life. How did this guy get pulled over 15 times in 2 years??? How poor is he driving?? In which case, is it really a bad thing that his license was suspended?

Sounds more like he makes a habit of making bad choices.
AntiMelting

Brainerd, MN

#11 Aug 16, 2010
You have $200 left each month after paying all your bills? I'll be paying for your life soon.
Bird

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Aug 16, 2010
Maybe it's time to look at the fines charged for infractions. They are pretty high and in this economy, not really reasonable.
AntiMelting

Brainerd, MN

#13 Aug 16, 2010
Bird wrote:
Maybe it's time to look at the fines charged for infractions. They are pretty high and in this economy, not really reasonable.
Sooo, a $10 fine versus a $100 fine will stop the crazy driving?
TaxTaxTax

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Aug 16, 2010
Oh. I’m sorry Mr. Kielsas. Didn’t they teach you in civics class that the role of government in Minnesota is to harass the citizenry and “punish” you into compliance?

Though sad, your circumstances have absolutely no bearing on the role of the government when it comes to law enforcement and creating income to feed the government monster.

You will find no mercy in the courts either.

God help you if you EVER have to pay child support, especially if your case is venue in Dakota County!

“Ahhhh hee ahw”

Since: Aug 09

Twin Cities

#15 Aug 16, 2010
kecker wrote:
I won't lie, I have a lead foot. But I don't think I've been pulled over 15 times in my life. How did this guy get pulled over 15 times in 2 years??? How poor is he driving?? In which case, is it really a bad thing that his license was suspended?
Sounds more like he makes a habit of making bad choices.
You don't need to be a bad driver, you just need to be recognized by a cop.
Bird

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Aug 16, 2010
AntiMelting wrote:
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Sooo, a $10 fine versus a $100 fine will stop the crazy driving?
It doesn't matter what you charge Somali's and Asians, they are bad drivers and its in their genes.

Since: Jun 08

Apple Valley, MN

#17 Aug 16, 2010
sock wrote:
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You don't need to be a bad driver, you just need to be recognized by a cop.
And you're making that assertion on what?? How do you know it was the same cop? Or even that they pulled him over because they knew who he was?? And are you honestly making the claim that he was pulled over without cause?? That's a rather bold, potentially libelous, claim there.

And I find it really difficult to believe he was pulled over 15 times just because a few cops were "out to get him"....and for what reason?? For fun?

You're making a rather inflammatory claim based upon no evidence you've cited.
in the know

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Aug 16, 2010
this guy was pulled over 15 times because the officers knew he was suspended & pulled him over every time they saw him, which is common. imagine being black & having a suspended license... you do the math. they are getting stopped constantly. the laws & system make it nearly impossible for people (most of them poor) to get valid. this program is working & helps the entire community.

p.s. stop being so racist... you'd never say such things to people if these posts weren't anonymous! cowardly....

Since: Aug 09

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Aug 17, 2010
in the know wrote:
this guy was pulled over 15 times because the officers knew he was suspended & pulled him over every time they saw him, which is common. imagine being black & having a suspended license... you do the math. they are getting stopped constantly. the laws & system make it nearly impossible for people (most of them poor) to get valid. this program is working & helps the entire community.
p.s. stop being so racist... you'd never say such things to people if these posts weren't anonymous! cowardly....
HAHAHAHAHAAHHA. Yep. It really is a shame that the cops are pulling over people who they KNOW shouldn't be driving. Hate to see them enforcing the law...

And put the race card back in your wallet...we are all tired of hearing it.

Since: Jun 08

Apple Valley, MN

#20 Aug 17, 2010
Incredible70 wrote:
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HAHAHAHAHAAHHA. Yep. It really is a shame that the cops are pulling over people who they KNOW shouldn't be driving. Hate to see them enforcing the law...
And put the race card back in your wallet...we are all tired of hearing it.
Agreed.
AntiMelting

Brainerd, MN

#21 Aug 17, 2010
Bird wrote:
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It doesn't matter what you charge Somali's and Asians, they are bad drivers and its in their genes.
I've suggested for years that we need an immigrant lane. Nobody likes that one.
thissucks

Burnsville, MN

#22 Aug 17, 2010
in the know wrote:
this guy was pulled over 15 times because the officers knew he was suspended & pulled him over every time they saw him, which is common. imagine being black & having a suspended license... you do the math. they are getting stopped constantly. the laws & system make it nearly impossible for people (most of them poor) to get valid. this program is working & helps the entire community.
p.s. stop being so racist... you'd never say such things to people if these posts weren't anonymous! cowardly....

And you know all this how? I think you're projecting a scenario because YOU want it to be that way. Unless you're the individual named in the article everything you say is pure speculation. Where does the racism come in? How is racism germane to the story?
Dom

South Saint Paul, MN

#23 Dec 27, 2012
I'm the guy they wrote the story on. Here are a few details to clear the air for most of you who have opinions based off one article. First off I'm white, so race has absolutely no bearing on the situation.(and never did I claim it did) Secondly, out of the 15 tickets in question 12 were written for driving after suspension only...So as far as my driving habbits go, I'm just like the rest off you.(yes they can pull you over by simply running your plates and assuming the non valid DL registered to the vehicle is in fact the curret driver) Never been in an accident, never had any wreckless driving, or DUI! Sorry but i wouldn't trade 15 of my tickets for even 1 DUI. Yet in Minnesota I've seen people with valid DL and multiple DUI's. Something very wrong there... I started my own business out of highschool, pay all of my taxes, and have NEVER been on any other public programs for ANY reason. The mortgage of my house started at $1,600/mo but by the time the lenders were done "adjusting" my rates, I was paying $2,100/mo. So, did I buy out of my means? Or did I buy into a bad situation that didn't become apparent to a 20 year old first time home buyer until it was too late? While most friends from high school still lived with thier parents, I had to carve my own way from nothing. Lost my house and tens of thousands of dollars to predatory lending and lost my license to a flawed penal system. Yet despite it all, never filed bankrupcy, still worked and paid my taxes, and paid back every DIME I owed the state. The
driving diversion program was a life saver and should be made available to anyone in my situation. How else can anyone afford to pay thousands in tickets with no license? Wouldn't the state benefit more by making easier for people to pay them? And for all of you people who still think American law systems are just fine, just wait till it happens to you. You can say your perfect and you follow all the rules so you never get wrapped up, but the fact remains that until programs like the DDP came around, the system is designed to keep you in once you are wrapped up. I love this country, but somethings have to change. Not everyone is a criminal just because the law says you are.....

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