RT America TV anchor detained over da...

RT America TV anchor detained over dancing at Jefferson Memorial

There are 29 comments on the en.rian.ru story from May 29, 2011, titled RT America TV anchor detained over dancing at Jefferson Memorial. In it, en.rian.ru reports that:

An anchor of satellite TV channel RT America's political show Adam VS The Man, Adam Kokesh was arrested on Saturday during the silent dancing flashmob at the Jefferson Memorial in Washington, RT said in a statement on Sunday.

RT said the participants of the flashmob were handcuffed and thrown to the ground "in what seems to be a clear violation of their right to free-expression."

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Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Lempäälä, Finland

#1 May 29, 2011
Are you saying they should have used bullets on these bastards the same way they did to pro-soviet anti-Vietnam demonstrators in the 60s and 70s?

If USA is a police state what that makes Russia. Zimbabwe or Zambia? LOLZ
amp

Podolsk, Russia

#2 May 29, 2011
What does think Tom about it I wonder.
Civilized country, yea?))
ronan

Rotherham, UK

#3 May 29, 2011
Where is freedon of expression in the US, if a simple 'demonstartion' by a handfull of people attract that kind of violence.
Notice that none of them resisted arrest, but the 'park keepers' still used force on them.

Now, that country, the USA, stands in judgement over other nations, and wants to preach 'democracy' to the world, and is not even able to respect its own constitution.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Lempäälä, Finland

#4 May 29, 2011
ronan wrote:
Where is freedon of expression in the US, if a simple 'demonstartion' by a handfull of people attract that kind of violence.
Notice that none of them resisted arrest, but the 'park keepers' still used force on them.
Now, that country, the USA, stands in judgement over other nations, and wants to preach 'democracy' to the world, and is not even able to respect its own constitution.
You limeys kill potato eating micks. Americans arrest protestors. See the difference.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Lempäälä, Finland

#6 May 29, 2011
AbeUG wrote:
<quoted text>
In most countries, women look like women. But in your Finland, Finnished women look like men. Like your Finnished president.
Finnish woman president looks like Conan O’Brien
http://www.google.com/search...
See the difference?
:D
Does you local mental hospital know that you escaped once again kyke. You are way dumber than your fellow polak the Unabomber because of your inbred jewish side.
Observer

Santa Clara, CA

#8 May 29, 2011
Abe, I'm really glad you joined us today. Annie was beginning to show some real disappointment in the quality of our debates. Thank goodness you showed up to save the day. I'm sure she'll recover lickety split now that your razor sharp intellect has decided to avail us of its insights.

Welcome back!
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Lempäälä, Finland

#9 May 29, 2011
Abe as I told you reading you unlimited stupidity gives anybody a headache. Go take some lessons from Martha and Ted how to bee smarter seeing they are both polaks so probaly understand yiddish too.

Martha is out but I heard Ted is still locked up at ADX Florence. Seeing how he turns seventy next year perhaps they will let that old polak out to teach you. Along with Charlie Boy Manson. Remember to tell Charlie where to reach Polanski.
Tom in Lazybrook

Midway, KY

#11 May 30, 2011
amp wrote:
What does think Tom about it I wonder.
Civilized country, yea?))
Did they apply for a permit? Was it denied? I think not.

I'd be willing to bet that had the RT reporter applied for a permit to do whatever silly thing he wanted to do there, it would have been ALLOWED to proceed.

Unlike in Russia, where Gays can NEVER get any authorization to peaceful protest, assembly, association, and petition.

These events are NOT similar.
Tom in Lazybrook

Midway, KY

#12 May 30, 2011
And I encourage the RT 'journalist' to sue my government. I'm not sure they would win on the arrest as they probably never applied for a permit, but they might win on the 'excessive force' charges. I for one, hope they do win if the police were excessive.

Thats how due process works.

In Russia, there is no due process for Gays, because the courts don't pay attention to their own constitution.

“Pink Ponies of Justice”

Since: Sep 07

Moscow, Russia

#13 May 30, 2011
Tom in Lazybrook wrote:
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Did they apply for a permit? Was it denied? I think not.
You don't need a permit for dancing. Even in China.

“Pink Ponies of Justice”

Since: Sep 07

Moscow, Russia

#14 May 30, 2011
Tom in Lazybrook wrote:
And I encourage the RT 'journalist' to sue my government.
Of course he will. BTW, he is also a veteran of the Iraq War.

FYI, half a year ago:

An RT crew, including correspondent Kaelyn Forde and cameraman Jon Conway, has been released after detention by US police while filming protests near the Fort Benning military base.

They were taken into custody despite complying with the police demand not to come close to the gates of the base.

The journalists were detained after the demonstration was over and everybody, including correspondents, was leaving the site. The arrest was very rough, RT Washington bureau informs, with hard plastic hand cuffs injuring Kaelyn Forde’s wrists. This type of handcuffs is commonly used by US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The RT correspondents, as well as the demonstrators, were charged with insubordination to the authorities, taking part in unlawful assembly and failure to disperse.

All those detained were transported to a jail, their private possessions, clothes and, in the men’s case, underwear were confiscated. They received prison jumpsuits with the tag “Muscogee County Jail”. The arrested were put in the same cells with convicted criminals serving their sentences.

The rally has brought together thousands of people protesting, including human rights activists, victims of torture. One of the arrested was a 90-year old priest.

http://rt.com/usa/news/correspondents-arreste...
Tom in Lazybrook

Dickinson, TX

#15 May 30, 2011
coolncrazy wrote:
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You don't need a permit for dancing. Even in China.
Ok. So If Aleeksev announces that they will meet in Red Sqaure wearing gay pride t-shirts and 'dance', then that would be ALLOWED by Moscow police?

Yea, right.

And actually, in China, you DO need an entertainment permit to conduct a dance on a public street.

“Pink Ponies of Justice”

Since: Sep 07

Moscow, Russia

#16 May 30, 2011
Tom in Lazybrook wrote:
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Ok. So If Aleeksev announces that they will meet in Red Sqaure wearing gay pride t-shirts and 'dance', then that would be ALLOWED by Moscow police?
Yea, right.
When they asked the permission on protest against Swiss Air, the permission was given and protest was held without problems. So if next time they ask for permission on protest against American imperialism :)- the permission will be given and they can wear their t-shirts and dance, but the slogans and banners should correspond to their application.
As for the Red Square - I doubt the permission will be given to anybody to protest there.

ps All of them were freed a couple hours after detainment without any demands to recognize any guilt. In USA this correspondents and the protesters spent 36 hours in prison and were obliged to recognize the guilt or stay in prison in cell with criminals. Nice?
Tom in Lazybrook

Dickinson, TX

#17 May 30, 2011
coolncrazy wrote:
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When they asked the permission on protest against Swiss Air, the permission was given and protest was held without problems. So if next time they ask for permission on protest against American imperialism :)- the permission will be given and they can wear their t-shirts and dance, but the slogans and banners should correspond to their application.
As for the Red Square - I doubt the permission will be given to anybody to protest there.
ps All of them were freed a couple hours after detainment without any demands to recognize any guilt. In USA this correspondents and the protesters spent 36 hours in prison and were obliged to recognize the guilt or stay in prison in cell with criminals. Nice?
So can they 'dance' in rainbow colored pride shirts that say 'no to homophobia'. Violent homophobes and uncultured bigots would never allow it.

The Gay activists were not charged, because to do so would have held Russia up to more ridicule and derision from the civilized world. Russia's government knows that they are violating every norm of civilized behavior, their own constitution, and Article 11 of the EHRC, to which they are a signatory.

If the words Gay Pride are banned, then there is no freedom of speech. If the Gay flag is banned, then there is no freedom of expression. If Gay Russia is banned from lobbying the Duma, then there is no freedom of petition.

I encourage the 'journalists' from RT to sue the government. If their cause is just, they will win. I also encourage them to apply for a permit before they go to a national monument with a history of terrorism attacks. I'm sure they would be able to say and do just about anything.

The two events are not related.
Tom in Lazybrook

Dickinson, TX

#18 May 30, 2011
Russia's government, in a bid to discredit a corrupt official that had fallen out of favor with United Russia, allowed 3 people to stand in front of the Swiss Air office.

Gays are not allowed to protest anything that United Russia doesn't agree with. Or Kiril.

“Pink Ponies of Justice”

Since: Sep 07

Moscow, Russia

#19 May 30, 2011
Tom in Lazybrook wrote:
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So can they 'dance' in rainbow colored pride shirts that say 'no to homophobia'. Violent homophobes and uncultured bigots would never allow it.
They can be in such shirts, but they should carry much larger banners "Shame on you, America!", and that's what they should shout. LOL
Tom in Lazybrook wrote:
<quoted text>I encourage the 'journalists' from RT to sue the government. If their cause is just, they will win.
And who care? Even if they'll win - they'll be arrested next time in the same situation. So what is the difference?
Tom in Lazybrook

Dickinson, TX

#20 May 30, 2011
coolncrazy wrote:
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They can be in such shirts, but they should carry much larger banners "Shame on you, America!", and that's what they should shout. LOL
<quoted text>
And who care? Even if they'll win - they'll be arrested next time in the same situation. So what is the difference?
RT can apply for a protest permit in the USA. Which will be GRANTED.

Gays cannot protest their government or the Russian orthodox church in their national capital.

“Pink Ponies of Justice”

Since: Sep 07

Russia

#21 May 30, 2011
Tom in Lazybrook wrote:
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RT can apply for a protest permit in the USA. Which will be GRANTED.
Or will not be. This protests near the Fort Benning are every year with thousands of people protesting, so I'm sure they applied for the permit. Can you explain why in Russia those detained protesters are released after couple of hour and they aren't obliged to recognized yourself guilty, but in USA they throw you in prison cell with criminals for more than a day and if you want to be released, you should recognize your guilt? This is an obvious attempt to humiliate you and force you to fear the American state and don't protesting next time
Tom in Lazybrook

United States

#22 May 31, 2011
coolncrazy wrote:
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Or will not be. This protests near the Fort Benning are every year with thousands of people protesting, so I'm sure they applied for the permit. Can you explain why in Russia those detained protesters are released after couple of hour and they aren't obliged to recognized yourself guilty, but in USA they throw you in prison cell with criminals for more than a day and if you want to be released, you should recognize your guilt? This is an obvious attempt to humiliate you and force you to fear the American state and don't protesting next time
Actually, you will get a permit. You won't get a permit to block the front gate of Fort Benning, which is what the protesters did.

“Pink Ponies of Justice”

Since: Sep 07

Moscow, Russia

#23 May 31, 2011
Tom in Lazybrook wrote:
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Actually, you will get a permit. You won't get a permit to block the front gate of Fort Benning, which is what the protesters did.
No, they didn't do anything like that. It was a peaceful protest, which stopped by the police force and the peaceful protesters were thrown to prison, and journalists who did their work where thrown to prison too. Now the court decided that they were not guilty in anything, but and so what? That's America - if the state don't care about your protest - nothing happen, but if the state don't like your protests - you will be beaten and sent to prison. Do you work in U.S. state department? Your excessive criticism against Russia and blind eye on America in this similar cases is obvious.

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