What I Saw at the Muslim Prayer Rally

Visitors to Washington D.C. on Friday got to hear what residents in Hamtramck and Dearborn, Michigan, as well as areas of London, Amsterdam and other Western cities already endure five times a day: The sound of amplified Muslim prayers lifted to Allah. This time, the prayers reverberated over America's front lawn as some 2,000 Muslims gathered for the Jummah Prayer on Capitol Hill: A Day of Islamic Unity. Promoters had planned for 50,000 but came nowhere near that. Hadn't you heard about this? If not, it's probably because the media have been tight lipped, the better not to embarrass the One in the White House ...

[Joe DeCaro]

Robert Knight said:

"Now, before you accuse me of lumping all Muslims in the same bowl, let me say that there are many nice, hardworking Muslims in America who mean no harm. In fact, many are here because they couldn't stomach living under Sharia Law in the countries of their origin. They may believe that the world will someday be subdued under Islam, but America's a fine place to be while waiting. Radical Muslims want to recruit moderate Muslims by convincing them that the day of Sharia is right around the corner, not in the distant future. Hence the more muscular approach at the Capitol. To understand why this is more than just a prayer rally, consider this:

The Prophet Mohammad divided the world into two areas: The world of Dar al-Islam, and the world of Dar al-Harb, or House of War. Everyone on Earth is therefore either a Muslim or an infidel who must convert or else. The Koran is quite clear about this."

[Wilberhum]

"In Muslim majority nations, such as Saudi Arabia, non-Muslims are regarded as Dhimmis, second-class people whose testimony in court is worth only a fraction of that of a Muslim and who must pay extra taxes. Forget equality under the law, and don't even ask how they treat Dhimmi women."

[Az Zaqqum]

I'm not surprised the rally bombed...oh, bad choice of word....

Educated American muslims do not want sharai, hell, even smart muslims run from sharia land!

[mina]

there will never be Sharia law in the USA. Not legally sanctioned anyway...some of these stupid little muslim ghettos may have it for their own neighborhood and people...but it is a thing really is not legal in the USA and the people involved in it can just as easily tell the Iman to fuck off if they want to. because his judgements are not legal in the USA, maybe even ILLEGAL.

[Joe DeCaro]

mina wrote:

there will never be Sharia law in the USA. Not legally sanctioned anyway...some of these stupid little muslim ghettos may have it for their own neighborhood and people ...

Should that happen, it would nullify US laws on the local level and even create the "no go" zones claimed to currently exist in areas of the UK.

[Rockville In Progress]

Joe DeCaro wrote:

Robert Knight said:
"Now, before you accuse me of lumping all Muslims in the same bowl, let me say that there are many nice, hardworking Muslims in America who mean no harm. In fact, many are here because they couldn't stomach living under Sharia Law in the countries of their origin. They may believe that the world will someday be subdued under Islam, but America's a fine place to be while waiting. Radical Muslims want to recruit moderate Muslims by convincing them that the day of Sharia is right around the corner, not in the distant future. Hence the more muscular approach at the Capitol. To understand why this is more than just a prayer rally, consider this:
The Prophet Mohammad divided the world into two areas: The world of Dar al-Islam, and the world of Dar al-Harb, or House of War. Everyone on Earth is therefore either a Muslim or an infidel who must convert or else. The Koran is quite clear about this."

The rally was good and I have heard that many people soon considered the new president a patriarch. He has done a good job in a number of areas.

[mina]

Joe DeCaro wrote:

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Should that happen, it would nullify US laws on the local level and even create the "no go" zones claimed to currently exist in areas of the UK.

no it would not, our constitution is set up to not allow that.
These little Islamic Ghettos that allow local Sharia law...only are allowed this when they all agree to it, at any time the individual can walk away and say "I do not want to play with you all anymore"....US LAW cannot be undone by religious law...the constitution states that the Goverment cannot uphold, represent or enforce religion in anyway...that would include religious law.
The REAL law in the USA is and always will be, local, city, county,state, and federal ...and nothing more.

[Hal]

Quran 2:256 says : "There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way."

The widespread lie that Islam obliges people to convert is horrendous.

When Muslims ruled Andalucia they protected Christians and Jews alike allowing the peaceful coexistence of the three religions that paved the way to an unpreceented level of prosperity and scientific progress that paved the way for the Renaissance.

21:107 to 109 (O Prophet)'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter,(then say,)`God best knows (the value of) what you do."

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

60:9 Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

Again... there is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way.

[Wilberhum]

"The widespread lie that Islam obliges people to convert is horrendous."
Right there is not obligation.
You have a right to loose your head or loose your money.

[Joe DeCaro]

mina wrote:

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no it would not, our constitution is set up to not allow that ...

It will fall under "special rights".

[Abu Najda]

Joe DeCaro wrote:

The Prophet Mohammad divided the world into two areas: The world of Dar al-Islam, and the world of Dar al-Harb, or House of War.

No he did not. This was something done later by someone else.

Joe DeCaro wrote:

Everyone on Earth is therefore either a Muslim or an infidel who must convert or else.

This is only according to Joe DeCaro. According to Islam, it is very clear - there is no compulsion in religion.

Joe DeCaro wrote:

The Koran is quite clear about this."

Yes - no compulsion in religion - this is definitely in Qur'an.

As for the other stuff - are you really going to believe a lying racist homophobic bigot? More fool you I am afraid ...

[Abu Najda]

Hal wrote:

Quran 2:256 says : "There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way."
The widespread lie that Islam obliges people to convert is horrendous.
When Muslims ruled Andalucia they protected Christians and Jews alike allowing the peaceful coexistence of the three religions that paved the way to an unpreceented level of prosperity and scientific progress that paved the way for the Renaissance.
21:107 to 109 (O Prophet)'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."
22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter,(then say,)`God best knows (the value of) what you do."
60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
60:9 Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.
48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.
Again... there is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way.

Excellent post. Try Facts- NOT Fiction

[Az Zaqqum]

Abu Najda wrote:

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Excellent post. Try Facts- NOT Fiction

True, sharia does not recognize the NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION.

...not that muslims really care about details

[Philosopher of Friendship]

Do not judge a religion by it's people or followers, judge it by it's laws, what it aims to achieve, and by it's message.

[Yaacob Ibrahim]

What LAWS ... the LAWS written down by filthy dirty donkey Muslims? Do not say they are from Allah when the filthy dirty Bastard himself did not even know that he was supposed to write a Quran.

[Singled out]

Yaacob Ibrahim wrote:

What LAWS ... the LAWS written down by filthy dirty donkey Muslims? Do not say they are from Allah when the filthy dirty Bastard himself did not even know that he was supposed to write a Quran.

http://blogs.uct.ac.za/gallery/669/Talk_to_th...

[To Fast Eddie]

Wilberhum wrote:

"In Muslim majority nations, such as Saudi Arabia, non-Muslims are regarded as Dhimmis, second-class people whose testimony in court is worth only a fraction of that of a Muslim and who must pay extra taxes. Forget equality under the law, and don't even ask how they treat Dhimmi women."

I am going to bed, prey that i sleep well and that god would heal my mind.

[Singled out]

Wilberhum wrote:

"The widespread lie that Islam obliges people to convert is horrendous."
Right there is not obligation.
You have a right to loose your head or loose your money.

http://blogs.uct.ac.za/gallery/669/Talk_to_th...

[Abu Najda]

Az Zaqqum wrote:

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True, sharia does not recognize the NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION.
...not that muslims really care about details

You have zero comprehension of sharia my friend. You cannot split Islam from Sharia when it comes to rulings like "no compulsion in religion".

If it is in Qur'an - which it is - then it is recognised in shariah - simple.

[Abu Najda]

Philosopher of Friendship wrote:

Do not judge a religion by it's people or followers, judge it by it's laws, what it aims to achieve, and by it's message.

Your intelligence and use of reason is lost on these people. Another excellent post.