Your thoughts on government cuts

Your thoughts on government cuts

There are 9083 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Apr 9, 2011, titled Your thoughts on government cuts. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

President Barack Obama signed a short-term funding extension on Saturday hours after Democrats and Republicans narrowly averted a partial shutdown of the federal government by agreeing on the measure and a budget deal.

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informed citizen

Beckley, WV

#737 Apr 12, 2011
Pamela wrote:
All the retarded abusers, he, he, how much fun for them. All of you buzz off. Deal with your massive welfare problems and buzz off.
I was starting to feel a little sorry for you until I took the time to scan more threads and your responses. You're bringing a lot of the so-called abuse comments on yourself. Maybe it's time to take a break. You can't call names and post crap to people you disagree with and not expect to get crap back.(been there, done that and it it done to me). LOL

Either accept that and post on-topic, intelligent, thought-out responses or forever be crying about "stalkers" who for the most part just disagree with your opinions. Some drama is fun. Too much drama ruins the discussions for everyone.(again - been there-done that and "learned" from my mistakes)

One good rule on forums is that when it gets too "hot" - get out and stop fanning the flames.

OK - back to the regularly scheduled program - "Your Thoughts on Government Cuts".

“"Stupid is forever"”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#738 Apr 12, 2011
Our future generations will be paying off that $3 trillion debt. They have to keep borrowing to just pay the interest on that loan. Lots of things need to go. They could start with Congress and slash their income, since they can't get their chit together and come up with a budget that will give us some kind of surplus in order to pay off that debt.
And since Obama isn't telling them to get r done, slash his income too. I don't understand why we continue to pay security and all the other things for ex-presidents!!! When we work a job (and not just 2 to 4 year job) we don't get all those "perks". That would be a good start!
Our children and grandchildren will grow up to a debt they had NOTHING to do with. I don't care why or who we owe, it should be paid down before our children are stuck in debt for things they have nothing to do with.
That's pretty dam sad!!!
Then we have FL's crook Governor Scott cutting education among other things, but he's added to his owe budget to hire more of his crooked friends!!!
People need to wake up, before they vote, don't they check out all of these candidate's past? Like Medicare Fraud, even though they say "I had no idea", that's a cop out and BS!!! Now he's elected as Governor of Florida, he was the CEO OF COLUMBIA CORP, it was his job to know. He's no dummy, as he pretends, he didn't know??? But I bet he remembers cutting employees, that has any amount of seniority in his hospitals, not last hired, either like it should of been!!
Hearing his name makes me cringe. If he's running the state of Florida, like he did his nation-wide monopoly, whoops, I meant medical corporations. I would bet he's for Obama's healthcare plan also. It's like outsourcing medicare and medicaid out to private corporations like Rick Scott's Columbia Healthcare!!
SpongeBob

Staten Island, NY

#739 Apr 12, 2011
military wife wrote:
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Do you even have a clue as to how the military runs? I got news for you the military has many different religions in it so yea you probably would go. And with your mentality along with a lot of peoples mentality maybe the draft should come back and maybe when you go they should just give you a riffle drop you in the middle of a battle zone and say "defend yourself! Oh and by the way your doing all this for free and you don't get a bullet proof vest or helmet because the government cut our budget so we couldn't afford it. Oh and you won't be able to talk to your family because we can't afford to use the telephones and we can't give you Internet because we can't afford electricity and we can't afford to feed you either or give you running water. Or a roof over your head to sleep either."
Do you know about the military contractor, David H. Brooks?

The contractor who supplied body armor for the US Military and spent $10 million from his company for his daughter’s bat mitzvah, and was charged by the U.S. Government for evading taxes.

David Brooks founded DHB, a company that provides body armor to the U.S. Military.

Brooks' company made so much money selling armor that he was able to use his company funds to support his lavish lifestyle including his daughter’s $10 million bat mitzvah.

Brooks served as DHB's chairman and chief executive officer, and resigned last year after this scandal went public.

His company sold bulletproof vests at an exorbitant price, and the worst thing is, they didn’t perform well in testing and in real time conditions.

....You see Ms Wifey, I'm sorry if you're not being treated well by the U.S. Govt. I would not expect to be treated well either. We have to send "care packages" through the local Moravian Church to help provide eye drops, and sun screen, and q-tips, and playing cards... etc...because the government can't seem to dig up the cash to provide those little annoying comforts for troops far away. It's too busy providing cash to the contractors. There's a lot of these stories. Blackwater is a one of them.

BTW, I'm good at protesting...I'd be down to Washington giving them what for. Did you ever see the tapes of the 60's draft card burners? No Vietnam for me...Unless I believed in the war I was asked to fight, I'd be in Washington first.

P.S. Some say that's why they did away with the draft.
harley

United States

#740 Apr 12, 2011
The politicians need to think like the rest of us us when we need to cut our household spending we cut out what we do not need, stop giving our tax dollars to other countries that what us dead!!
SpongeBob

Staten Island, NY

#741 Apr 12, 2011
informed citizen wrote:
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I was starting to feel a little sorry for you until I took the time to scan more threads and your responses. You're bringing a lot of the so-called abuse comments on yourself. Maybe it's time to take a break. You can't call names and post crap to people you disagree with and not expect to get crap back.(been there, done that and it it done to me). LOL
Either accept that and post on-topic, intelligent, thought-out responses or forever be crying about "stalkers" who for the most part just disagree with your opinions. Some drama is fun. Too much drama ruins the discussions for everyone.(again - been there-done that and "learned" from my mistakes)
One good rule on forums is that when it gets too "hot" - get out and stop fanning the flames.
OK - back to the regularly scheduled program - "Your Thoughts on Government Cuts".
Well now, she does have her first amendment rights as do you, however, I don't think she owns "fanning the flames."

She gets a lot of help with that...I'm just saying.

What's so hard about ignoring posts you don't like? Who or what forces you to respond? What am I missing here?
LOLOLOLOL

Springfield, MA

#742 Apr 12, 2011
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>He, he, he, all ten stalkers are in here at one time, big gang banging, he, he, it's soooooooo important.
ha ha just noticed your from CA that explains everything lololol
SpongeBob

Staten Island, NY

#743 Apr 12, 2011
Kiba wrote:
Hey Pamela, your one screwed-up c**t. And SpongeBob, you are right but I would have phrased it a little different like we have not been allowed to win a war since WW-2. Because we are stupid enough to listen to the liberal whimperers our wars are drawn-out decade long affairs because we try to fight and win our wars without hurting anyone,
"without hurting anyone"???

The whistle-blowing website WikiLeaks released a trove of classified reports that it said documented at least 109,000 deaths in the Iraq war, more than the United States previously has acknowledged, as well as what it described as cases of torture and other abuses by Iraqi and coalition forces.

I would say 109,000 deaths was hurting someone. Did you want to nuke them?
informed citizen

Beckley, WV

#744 Apr 12, 2011
SpongeBob wrote:
<quoted text>
Well now, she does have her first amendment rights as do you, however, I don't think she owns "fanning the flames."
She gets a lot of help with that...I'm just saying.
What's so hard about ignoring posts you don't like? Who or what forces you to respond? What am I missing here?
Of course she has the right to post - just as you or me. But, when the going get so tough that you spend ALL the time slinging back, then a break could help. I was also thinking about Pamela when I suggested a break. Sometimes it helps to be the sensible one to step back and diffuse a volatile situation when the flames keep getting higher.

Or the alternative would be to ignore (as you suggest & what I often try to "remember") the attacks & go on with the message...IE -- back to the topic.

Since: Jan 07

Baltimore, MD

#745 Apr 12, 2011
scout wrote:
SLASH the fed budget, and BEGIN WITH THE MILITARY!
the military is really one of the only things that is supposed to be funded by law......besides........its budget has been cut and how.........

“Common Sense Has Left America”

Since: Oct 07

Maryville, TN

#748 Apr 12, 2011
All cuts are good cuts
Kiba

Huntington, WV

#750 Apr 12, 2011
Pamela is just like all of the libs and that is "the constant victim". Hey Pamela, noone gives a crap enough to stalk you hon OK? Geesh... And I dont personally care if we tortured or killed 5 million Iraqi's, the more the merrier as far as Im concerened. Man some of you act like those middle eastern things are human or something. We should all come home and on our way out turn that entire part of the world into a smouldering dinner-plate, and in 25 or so years when it cools off and the buzzards are full then we can get the oil from it. Problem solved! lol...
Cedarburg Baker

Los Angeles, CA

#751 Apr 12, 2011
RMQuinn37 wrote:
<quoted text>
I already did. What about the rest of you?
Done...
Too bad Topix doesn't offer an ignore poster feature.....
SpongeBob

Staten Island, NY

#753 Apr 12, 2011
military wife wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you even have a clue as to how the military runs? I got news for you the military has many different religions in it so yea you probably would go.
Recent allegations of religious bias at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs may be only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to religious pluralism in the military.

A recent front-page New York Times article paints a troubling portrait of the military chaplaincy generally, noting that evangelicals who insist on their right to engage in aggressive forms of proselytism are a “growing force” in the military chaplaincy.

In that report, it was noted a recent “Spiritual Fitness
Conference” was hosted and paid for by the Academy at a cost of $300,000. The conference was open to U.S. military chaplains and their families, and, although military chaplains pledge to serve all soldiers’ religious needs, the four-day conference was clearly intended to help evangelical chaplains hone their ministerial skills.

Attendees were treated to “workshops on ‘The Purpose Driven Life,’ the best seller by the megachurch pastor Rick Warren, and on how to improve their worship services.” Strewn throughout the hotel’s hallways, according to the Times, were vendors from Focus on the Family, James Dobson’s evangelical self-help ministry, which is headquartered in Colorado Springs.

The spiritual fitness event was “just one indication of the extent
to which evangelical Christians have become a growing force in the Air Force chaplain corps, a trend documented by military records and interviews with more than two dozen chaplains and other military officials,” the newspaper reported.

Military statistics show a major spike in the number of evangelical denominations that are now represented in the chaplaincy and a continued dwindling of Catholic and mainline Protestant groups. Things have gotten so bad that some non-evangelicals in the military say they are finding it increasingly difficult to practice their own faiths.

Brig. Gen. Cecil R. Richardson, the Air Force deputy chief of chaplains, told The Times,“We will not proselytize, but we reserve the right to evangelize the unchurched.”

Horror stories abound. A Mormon in the Marine Corps told The Times that during his service his fellow marines and some of his commanders often denigrated his religion. He said several chaplains tried to convince him his faith was “wicked” or “Satanic.” He said he wants to become a chaplain to help those religious service men and women who are now “underrepresented” and to make the military “a more spiritually accepting environment.”

In the Navy, Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, of the Evangelical Episcopal Church, complained that he was terminated after he used a funeral service for a Catholic sailor to warn attendees that for those who did not accept Jesus,“God’s
wrath remains upon him.” Amazingly, Klingenschmitt insists he did nothing wrong, remarking,“The Navy wants to impose its religion on me.

Religious pluralism is a religion. It’s a theology all by itself.”

A chaplain must be prepared to offer any religious service requested, or find someone who can. Clearly, some evangelicals are unwilling to do this and instead see their taxpayer-financed positions as launching pads for evangelism.

Members of the armed services stationed overseas where churches are few must have their religious view accommodated. At domestic bases, where houses of worship often abound in the surrounding community, the need seems less compelling.

Perhaps it is time to heed the words of James Madison, who in one essay warned that it might be “better to disarm…the precedent of Chaplainships for the army and navy, than erect them into a political authority in matter of Religion...etc."
America First

Yuma, AZ

#754 Apr 12, 2011
harley wrote:
The politicians need to think like the rest of us us when we need to cut our household spending we cut out what we do not need, stop giving our tax dollars to other countries that what us dead!!
I agree and will take it one step further. Stop using my taxes dollars to pay the government federal employes starting with the elected and their appointees elaborate healthcare, pensions, fringe benefits and unearned pay. Elected and their appointees go on the same healthcare plans and pension plans available to the us working class taxpayers.

Since: Nov 10

Monte Vista, Colorado

#755 Apr 12, 2011
SpongeBob wrote:
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Recent allegations of religious bias...blah, blah, blah.
God what a blowhard you are. Do you read your own crap before you post it? Quoting the New York Times as a reliable source on anything...especially the military or religion! What a joke. The Times editorial board admitted at least three years ago that the majority of its members were homosexual Marxists, and sadly, far too many are Jewish.

These Times drones, whose lives and propaganda line are driven by homohate against Christianity, speak for no one but themselves. We needn't worry about this Marxist rag much longer. Had Carlos Slim not come in with a $125 million injection, the Times would no longer exist. It's losing money again. Slim isn't going to put up with that for very much longer. The paper has lost all its public credibility and more than 50% of its former subscribers. I'll drink a toast the day they slam the doors shut for good.

“ain't she sweet?”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#756 Apr 12, 2011
SpongeBob wrote:
<quoted text>It seems you're really enjoying bullying Pamela. What's with that?
Oh come on SB, don't blame CB. If anyone dares to challenge the validity of pam's statements, she calls them an abusive stalker. That's plain delusional !

“ain't she sweet?”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#757 Apr 12, 2011
Under Siege Okie wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, even a response to this one and it wasn't even directed to her.
Yep, that was between him and me!
Cedarburg Baker

Los Angeles, CA

#759 Apr 12, 2011
SpongeBob wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems you're really enjoying bullying Pamela. What's with that?
Something just occurred to me. You realize the "mental cases, really dumb, tea tards" remarks in the post to which you responded, were Pamels's words, right.? Just checking.....if you did, fine.

Cedarburg Baker wrote:
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>All of the Fox followers hate college, every single one of them. They are insane. All they care about is ending education to keep their socialist security and government Medicare. He is living off of the government, all the tea tards are, and they want to eat their young alive to keep their socialism then claim to hate socialism and call everyone else an "evil socialist." They are all mental cases, really dumb, hate education, know nothing and live off of socialism. Nothing nuttier has ever been hatched than the tea party. They prove the U.S. is way dumbed down and finished. That's all they are doing.

“ain't she sweet?”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#760 Apr 12, 2011
SpongeBob wrote:
<quoted text>Do you know the difference between a public and non-public institution? Is the American Red Cross public or non-public?

I know there's a difference between public and non-public (private) schools.

I read somewhere that the government will pay for vouchers to religious schools. Now they would be private, right?

I guess this stuff isn't part of the "Wiki-degree," because I couldn't find it. So maybe I won't graduate from "wiki" school.

Thanks
The problem with threads is sometimes it's hard to tell if people are aeries or joint or being sarcastic.

The American Red Cross is a private non profit that I think gets public funds ( http://www.redcross.org/mobile/ ). The Catholic Charities is a private non profit that I know in Illinois gets state funds for food pantries and community dinners ( http://www.catholiccharities.net/ ).

I thought I mentioned the Newberry Library in Chicago. It is a privately funded library that is non circulating, but open to the public for research ( http://www.newberry.org/ ).

The United Way is yet another private non profit that I believe receives some level of government funding ( http://liveunited.org/content/splash ).

The links below address private school vouchers. You are absolutely correct. A private school by definition is not a publicly funded or run institution any more than the Newberry Library above is. I attended a catholic HS in Chicago and a private college. While these institutions may have to comply with state standards of education, they are not run by the city or state.

We already have public schools funded by taxpayer money. Fix that system and work with teachers, administrators and families. But if I send my kid (I personally don't have any) to a private school, that is my choice and my responsibility, not the taxpayers.

http://www.wested.org/policy/pubs/full_text/p...

http://www.catalyst-chicago.org/notebook/inde...

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/dennis-byrne-...
SpongeBob

Staten Island, NY

#761 Apr 12, 2011
windypoint wrote:
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God what a blowhard you are. Do you read your own crap before you post it? Quoting the New York Times as a reliable source on anything...especially the military or religion! What a joke. The Times editorial board admitted at least three years ago that the majority of its members were homosexual Marxists, and sadly, far too many are Jewish.
These Times drones, whose lives and propaganda line are driven by homohate against Christianity, speak for no one but themselves. We needn't worry about this Marxist rag much longer. Had Carlos Slim not come in with a $125 million injection, the Times would no longer exist. It's losing money again. Slim isn't going to put up with that for very much longer. The paper has lost all its public credibility and more than 50% of its former subscribers. I'll drink a toast the day they slam the doors shut for good.
Relax Windy...You can verify that story by googling Colorado springs and Evangelical Chaplains. NYTimes doesn't have an "exclusive" on this. Instead of blowing a s#!t fit over the Times, why don't you try and "refudiate" this story. I could care less what your opinion is of the Times. I know it's reviled by the neo-cons.

As a matter of fact, I got this story from Americans United who are for separation of church and state.

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