Public Hearing Held on Disease Affecting Deer in Shenandoah Park

The National Park Service heard from the public Tuesday night at the Ivy Creek Foundation about ways to curb a disease that affects mostly white-tailed deer. Full Story
Fools Gold

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Mar 12, 2013
OH DEER!
Fools Gold

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Mar 12, 2013
The 1930 US deer population was about 300,000. The 2005 US deer population was about 30,000,000.

That's a 100-fold increase without expanding the gene pool.

Thats as if every person had incest with their family again and again until a 10-fold polulation was achieved.

There you go, you're gonna have problems when the gene pool is so small.

Time for more deer to fall from gunfire. This is what happens when liberals abound. Pestilence. Its in the bible.
Wilbur

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Mar 13, 2013
I believe the disease appears due to over-population. Yet the Va. Game Commission continues to set very short hunting seasons despite over-population. How many of us have had a life threatening collision with one of these over-abundant killers? You will feel different when you hit one at 55 mph. Absolutely no reason why the Game Commission can't extend the hunting season for better control.

Oh, and you still can't hunt deer on Sunday but one of them still can come through the windshield of your car Sunday driving your tyke home from a movie.
Um No

United States

#4 Mar 13, 2013
From what I've heard they have been taking steps to deal with this disease. Anyone take notice that when this "disease from the west" came that has been affecting deer in the park that simultaneously people started seeing mountain lions. On the DGIF website you can see where most of the sightings have occured .... counties bordering the park primarily.
Dude

Lovettsville, VA

#5 Mar 13, 2013
Fools Gold wrote:
The 1930 US deer population was about 300,000. The 2005 US deer population was about 30,000,000.
That's a 100-fold increase without expanding the gene pool.
Thats as if every person had incest with their family again and again until a 10-fold polulation was achieved.
There you go, you're gonna have problems when the gene pool is so small.
Time for more deer to fall from gunfire. This is what happens when liberals abound. Pestilence. Its in the bible.
The problem is irresponsible hunting. More doe need to fall. Before long, it's going to affect auto insurance prices.
Dude

Lovettsville, VA

#6 Mar 13, 2013
Um No wrote:
From what I've heard they have been taking steps to deal with this disease. Anyone take notice that when this "disease from the west" came that has been affecting deer in the park that simultaneously people started seeing mountain lions. On the DGIF website you can see where most of the sightings have occured .... counties bordering the park primarily.
Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is believed to be genetic. My brother in law's brother is an environmental scientist (he and all his brothers are scientists) and has been studying the effect for some time. He believes it is due to the streamlining of genetics. He believes that that it's caused by hunters killing off the strongest bucks, leaving the genetically weakest to mate and pass on weaker genes.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#7 Mar 13, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is believed to be genetic. My brother in law's brother is an environmental scientist (he and all his brothers are scientists) and has been studying the effect for some time. He believes it is due to the streamlining of genetics. He believes that that it's caused by hunters killing off the strongest bucks, leaving the genetically weakest to mate and pass on weaker genes.
You cannot hunt in the Shenandoah National Park.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Mar 13, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>You cannot hunt in the Shenandoah National Park.
good thing it's fenced in
Dude

Lovettsville, VA

#9 Mar 13, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>You cannot hunt in the Shenandoah National Park.
Bucks move around during the rut. I know guys that hunt right on the park line both here and at Yellowstone.(not the same guys) IMO doe is better eating, and I've yet come across a good recipe for antler. Some would say that since the doe don't move around as much there's not much sport in it, but really... there's not much sport in it, it's time, tenacity, and luck. Being in the right place at the right time is finding the time in the first place. If I kill a few doe, that's enough to supply me with venison for most of the year. The real work begins when you pull the trigger.
Um No

United States

#10 Mar 13, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is believed to be genetic. My brother in law's brother is an environmental scientist (he and all his brothers are scientists) and has been studying the effect for some time. He believes it is due to the streamlining of genetics. He believes that that it's caused by hunters killing off the strongest bucks, leaving the genetically weakest to mate and pass on weaker genes.
Which is why, I've been told, that a predator was brought in to take out the weak in the herd. Not something they want the public to fully know about. Supposedly only males were brought in which is why when asked game officials always say "there is no breeding population of mountain lions/eastern puma in Virginia".
Dude

Lovettsville, VA

#11 Mar 13, 2013
Um No wrote:
<quoted text>
Which is why, I've been told, that a predator was brought in to take out the weak in the herd. Not something they want the public to fully know about. Supposedly only males were brought in which is why when asked game officials always say "there is no breeding population of mountain lions/eastern puma in Virginia".
interesting, a sterile predator? I won't discount the theory or conspiracy... I put nothing past the government.
pooter

United States

#12 Mar 13, 2013
its wrong to kill any living creature on this planet for any reason, everything has a right to life and we should to as much as we can to keep these suffering creatures alive as long as possible and make sure that they are forced to have all of their inbred babies!
overzealous environmentalist or over-conservative right to lifer? you decide
Fools Gold

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Mar 13, 2013
We need to turn a bunch of good ole boys with spotlights and .223's loose in the park one day a week. Problems gone in 6 months or less.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#14 Mar 13, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Bucks move around during the rut. I know guys that hunt right on the park line both here and at Yellowstone.(not the same guys) IMO doe is better eating, and I've yet come across a good recipe for antler. Some would say that since the doe don't move around as much there's not much sport in it, but really... there's not much sport in it, it's time, tenacity, and luck. Being in the right place at the right time is finding the time in the first place. If I kill a few doe, that's enough to supply me with venison for most of the year. The real work begins when you pull the trigger.
Yes Dude I know what a rutting buck is and I was simply pointing out that the article was specifically about the SNP. But with the sharp rise in Deer pop. the Bucks really don't have to follow a scent as far as they once did.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#15 Mar 13, 2013
huck wrote:
<quoted text>
good thing it's fenced in
Baaaaaa...baaaaaaaaa
flounder

Baytown, TX

#16 Mar 30, 2013
Tuesday, March 05, 2013

Chronic Wasting Disease Management Plan/Environmental Impact Statement, Shenandoah National Park Virginia

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2...





Friday, December 14, 2012


DEFRA U.K. What is the risk of Chronic Wasting Disease CWD being introduced into Great Britain? A Qualitative Risk Assessment October 2012


http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2...





Friday, November 09, 2012

*** Chronic Wasting Disease CWD in cervidae and transmission to other species

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2...



Sunday, November 11, 2012

*** Susceptibilities of Nonhuman Primates to Chronic Wasting Disease November 2012

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2...



Friday, December 14, 2012

Susceptibility Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) in wild cervids to Humans 2005 - December 14, 2012

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2...



Monday, March 18, 2013

PROCEEDINGS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEENTH ANNUAL MEETING of the UNITED STATES ANIMAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION September 29 October 5, 2011

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2...



tss
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#17 Mar 30, 2013
If you believe red necks don't hunt in the park, I guess you believe in the tooth fairy. They hunt deer and bear in the park, many with dogs. One problem is that humans just seem to multiply all the time, they gots to live somewhere and around here its pretty much the Parks back yard. Point being Cville itself is home to herds of deer that can't be hunted, the surrounding area is becoming burbs where you can't hunt either. So the deer population keeps expanding and with no natural predators, gee we killed all those, this is what happens. Kinda like Friendship Court.
Boodreau

Waynesboro, VA

#18 Mar 30, 2013
sez you wrote:
If you believe red necks don't hunt in the park, I guess you believe in the tooth fairy. They hunt deer and bear in the park, many with dogs. One problem is that humans just seem to multiply all the time, they gots to live somewhere and around here its pretty much the Parks back yard. Point being Cville itself is home to herds of deer that can't be hunted, the surrounding area is becoming burbs where you can't hunt either. So the deer population keeps expanding and with no natural predators, gee we killed all those, this is what happens. Kinda like Friendship Court.
I'm a gun cowboy who only hunts paper targets but i did recently hit a deer on the 4 lane highway near my house.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Mar 30, 2013
Boodreau wrote:
<quoted text>I'm a gun cowboy who only hunts paper targets but i did recently hit a deer on the 4 lane highway near my house.
That's gotta suck, I see the remains left on 29 south all the time, aside from dumb drivers, deer are the scariest thing on the road.

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