Tongan teen is killed

[treydymondz]

WTF this went frm tongan teen killed to anotha version of poly info............

[treydymondz]

pretty cool tho, i forgot to add, haha.

[Samoa Moni]

treydymondz wrote:

WTF this went frm tongan teen killed to anotha version of poly info..........

Dats howz we doez!

[treydymondz]

Samoa Moni wrote:

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Dats howz we doez!

hahaha; f'shooo.

[AiNOkeA]

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[Killerz of Tonga]

Samoa Moni wrote:

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You're so stupid that you don't even understand what I've been saying all this time. lol. Tui Manu'a and Tui Atua / Tui A'ana had a dispute. Tui Tonga being the son of Tui Manu'a was angry at those districts and decided to intervene and force his will on the people. This is why Tui Manu'a and Tui Tonga's titles were kinda washed away after that conflict. You seem to be very stupid when it comes to politics in the islands. That's why you've acted so dumb thinking that this was all about Tonga vs Samoa. What an idiot.

:-) no no no lol you were trying to set tui manua up on a peddle stool as a force to bekon with... now you want to change your tone by introducing 2 more unknown names wtf wats next?? tui asscrack from savaii?? lmao your previous remarks were targeted at fabricating the idea that tui manua was a powerful, ruling just like Tui Tongas... but we Tongans all know that tui manua, tui atua, tui anal and whatever other tui asscracks you soles wana make up are all bogus, myths... one survivor thats Tui Tonga lol any other questions samoa mimi?:-)

keep smiling and never give up on your dreams lol

malietoausi

[Killerz of Tonga]

thetruth wrote:

Polynesians always have elaborate ways to explain things from the past( ancient times). Like the naming of our two nations.
If someone was to ask how did Samoa get its name, it would be boring to say because we are the center. So they made up an illustrious story explaing how it came about. Hence, Lufasiaitu and his chickens.
Now if someone was to ask how did Tonga get its name, again, it would be boring to say it means south. So the Tongans made up an amazing story themselves. Maui fished up the islands using a magic hook(from Manu'a).
These tall tales are much more entertaing then a logical explanation. The boring but logical explanation being that these nations were named after directions. In the north you have To'elau, in the south you have Toga, and in the middle is Samoa.
My lua sege :-)

lol thats a nice fairytale story (sniggering with hand over mouth) and please tell your daddy or grandpa malo fafetai 4 the garage talk lmao

Tonga does mean south but rather said sacred south...TongaTapu.. south of what??? to the north you have the islands of Haapai and Vavau... further north you have what used to be part of the Tongan empire the wallis islands.. Uvea, Fortuna, Rotuma... that was the Tongan Empires central... lol have a look at the people of the wallis islands they speak french now but they are of Tongan descent...Uvea was Tongas last naval post...

however if samoa is the centre why is then that Tapu or Kapu or Hapu which is the official word in polynesia for sacred incrperated in samoa??

we Tongans say haamoa-samoa haa meaning clan or family or tribe moa meaning chicken.. ask any poly in the pacific what moa means theyll reply with a smurk that it means chicken... haa-(tribe, clan of ) moa ( Chicken)

moa means chicken lol

so can you show me or any of us where the fuck in the word "samoa" according to true polynesian dialect that it says "centre???"

moa - chicken hehehehahahahahaha lol chhheeeehhhoooo!! lmao

[tui]

Killerz of Tonga wrote:

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:-) no no no lol you were trying to set tui manua up on a peddle stool as a force to bekon with... now you want to change your tone by introducing 2 more unknown names wtf wats next?? tui asscrack from savaii?? lmao your previous remarks were targeted at fabricating the idea that tui manua was a powerful, ruling just like Tui Tongas... but we Tongans all know that tui manua, tui atua, tui anal and whatever other tui asscracks you soles wana make up are all bogus, myths... one survivor thats Tui Tonga lol any other questions samoa mimi?:-)
keep smiling and never give up on your dreams lol
malietoausi

...hahahaha

oiaweeee fakapoooo...hahahaha...all cracks on every corner...hahaha..bro u make my day here..im just cant stop laufing..

[thetruth]

Killerz of Tonga wrote:

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lol thats a nice fairytale story (sniggering with hand over mouth) and please tell your daddy or grandpa malo fafetai 4 the garage talk lmao
Tonga does mean south but rather said sacred south...TongaTapu.. south of what??? to the north you have the islands of Haapai and Vavau... further north you have what used to be part of the Tongan empire the wallis islands.. Uvea, Fortuna, Rotuma... that was the Tongan Empires central... lol have a look at the people of the wallis islands they speak french now but they are of Tongan descent...Uvea was Tongas last naval post...
however if samoa is the centre why is then that Tapu or Kapu or Hapu which is the official word in polynesia for sacred incrperated in samoa??
we Tongans say haamoa-samoa haa meaning clan or family or tribe moa meaning chicken.. ask any poly in the pacific what moa means theyll reply with a smurk that it means chicken... haa-(tribe, clan of ) moa ( Chicken)
moa means chicken lol
so can you show me or any of us where the fuck in the word "samoa" according to true polynesian dialect that it says "centre???"
moa - chicken hehehehahahahahaha lol chhheeeehhhoooo!! lmao

OH HELL NO!!! this t3nga going try and pretend to know our language now??hahahaha you really got be full of yourself!! How many time are you going to pretend to know what you're talking about?? You are always good for a laugh..

1. The Samoan language is way too rich for a clown such as yourself to comprehend. Bahahaha Just because YOU don't hear Us saying tapu, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist in our vocabulary. It's just like pu$$y to you. Just cause you haven't seen it or touched it that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. For your information, it does exist! Just reach out and touch yourself... bahahaha and so as the word tapu. LOL you silly clown!!
And just because the rest of polynesia uses tapu more frequently, that doesn't mean we have to use it. For example the word mate or make(death, die). We have this word but unlike everybody else we don't use it when referring to humans dying. There are different "levels" in our language that simple minded clowns can't comprehend. We all know you have serious comprehension problems. Bahahahahahaha

2. You argue the point that Nukuleka(on Tongatapu) is the oldest settlement in polynesia. Let me ask you this clown. If Tongatapu was settled first, why would they call it south? Did they know that there were south of Haapai and Vavau before even discovering it? NO!! But that would make sense to a dyslexic clown!!

3. Moa does mean chicken but it also has other meanings. Moa is also defined as the epigastric region of the body, or middle of the road. I could show it to you but i don't think your reading comprehension level is up to par.

4. Funny how you chose NOT TO address YOUR people's story about TONGAFUSIFONUA!! The one about the Tuimanu'a with the magic hook?? Hahahaha you think i wouldn't catch that?? By the way, where would Maui and his brothers be from if YOUR islands had to be fished up?? Oh yeah i forgot Maui is also a chief from Manu'a!! LOL could this be where Maui was from?? Oh i forgot, you only like to think in irrational ways that are spurred on by your preide and ignorance..

You are so funny bro!!! You really getting your money's worth at clown school bahahaha.. Maybe you should go read an actual book so you can really get an in-depth understanding of the things your PRETEND to know. Speaking of which, did you purchase the book i recommended? It'll show you how a pu$$y looks like. But so will a mirror.. Bahahahaha you are a crack up

[nimrod]

where was tu'i manua when tu'i tonga was runnin savai'i and upolu?? oh yea, he was helpin tu'i tonga hold down upolu and savai'i lmaooo

tru story no shock

[Samoa Moni]

It's quite comedic to see Killerz of Muli turn into a clown right before our very eyes!

I'm guessing that he is done trying to prove his point since he has been completely destroyed by me. All he has now is to make fun and call names. lol. The funny thing is that his Tui's were all Samoan from the island of Samoa born from a Samoan woman because true royalty of the Tui Tonga came from the high born women of Samoa NOT Tonga. lol.

I don't even have to use Samoan history because I've been using Tongan history to tell idiots like you where your kings all came from. lol. Kamehameha, Tui Tonga, Tui Tokelau, Tui Rarotonga, etc., all have the blood of Samoa.

You feel me? lol.

[Samoa Moni]

Killerz of Muli, does it make you angry that the Tui Tonga was always from a Samoan woman while the Tongan woman who gave birth from the Tui Tonga was put aside due to his inferior blood in his veins?

In other words, you would have no chance of being the king of Tonga if you went against me because I have Samoan blood while you are treated as if you have nothing more than urine of a monkey running through your veins.

Now I know why you hate Samoans and it's due to your inferiority complex. Don't hate that your kings was always from Manu'a Samoa and Upolu. lol.

[palangi loi]

there are two theory one the lapita theory or the americas haamoa mooni or any one you disagree with the lapita theory so do you support that we polynesian come from the americas?

[thetruth]

palangi loi wrote:

there are two theory one the lapita theory or the americas haamoa mooni or any one you disagree with the lapita theory so do you support that we polynesian come from the americas?

You should actually read more about polynesian migration theories. There are more than two theories out there. Honestly, go to the nearest university's library and read about all the other theories out there.

[Samoa Moni]

palangi loi wrote:

there are two theory one the lapita theory or the americas haamoa mooni or any one you disagree with the lapita theory so do you support that we polynesian come from the americas?

I submit to you that the word "theory" means "opinion based on circumstantial evidence".

Polynesia is inhabited by both Melanesian and Polynesian descendants. These two ethnic groups are scientifically distinct one from the other. Lapita pottery is distinctly a Melanesian product and is devoid within the Polynesian culture and oral history. Since we Polynesians are devoid of such a history or product, you can only assume that we brought those products from Melanesia or traded with them extensively.

Since it is noted by Science through genetics that Melanesian and Polynesian genetics are distinct from one another, we cannot assume that we morphed from Melanesians, but grew in isolation. If in fact Polynesians did bring over the Lapita potteries acquired from Melanesia, it would be safe to assume that we mingled extensively with the Melanesian race. However, this is not the case because "genetic markers" show that the Polynesians over 1,000 years ago were devoid of Melanesian genetics. Since the Lapita pottery is dated up to 3,000 years ago, how could it be that Polynesians could trade extensively with Melanesians yet be so devoid of any mingling of genetics?

With this I submit a co-mingling of Polynesian oral history alongside other evidences:

http://books.google.com/books...

Page 239

"Like the Kingsmills, Rarotonga seems to have been colonized from two sides at once; but both parties came originally from Samoa. Two clans hold Rarotonga, the Ngati Makea and the Ngati Tangiia. Tradition says that Karika, chief of the clan Makea, came from Manua, in Samoa, 800 miles N.W., and discovered Rarotonga; that he returned to Manua, and formed an expedition to settle in Rarotonga, and sailed. Upon his arrival a second time he fell in with Tangiia, who had come from Tahiti; Karika had only warriors in his party. Tangiia had some women and children; so Tangiia yielded the supremacy to Karika, which is maintained yet. The two clans settled together amicably, but found some black people there before them."

Notice that the Polynesians said that these parts were inhabited by other people who were black. Could it be that these islands which proved to have Lapita pottery came from people who inhabited the islands prior to the arrival of Polynesians? oral history of our people actually supports this theory.

Let me give you a quick analogy;

I moved into a home that was vacated by the former tenants who were migrants from Africa. When they vacated the premise they left a few distinct potteries they brought with them from Africa. As the new tenant of this home I thought it was fascinating so I put them up as decorations. One day I invited a friend over who immediately recognized the distinct pottery belonging to those from Africa. Knowing that I was NOT African, he asked "when did you go to Africa?", I was puzzled and stated I am Samoan not African. He nodded and added surely you must have gone to Africa at some point since you have distinct pottery from Africa. I laughed and told him I had no recollection of any trip to Africa or a history with any pottery on display, I simply inherited the home that was vacated by the former tenants who were African.

Listen to your ancestors stories and you will find out that they only inherited Tonga, Samoa, etc., after another race abandoned it. They are not Melanesian, it's just that simple. Stop trying to claim a product you have no ties to.

[palangi loi]

Samoa Moni wrote:

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I submit to you that the word "theory" means "opinion based on circumstantial evidence".
Polynesia is inhabited by both Melanesian and Polynesian descendants. These two ethnic groups are scientifically distinct one from the other. Lapita pottery is distinctly a Melanesian product and is devoid within the Polynesian culture and oral history. Since we Polynesians are devoid of such a history or product, you can only assume that we brought those products from Melanesia or traded with them extensively.
Since it is noted by Science through genetics that Melanesian and Polynesian genetics are distinct from one another, we cannot assume that we morphed from Melanesians, but grew in isolation. If in fact Polynesians did bring over the Lapita potteries acquired from Melanesia, it would be safe to assume that we mingled extensively with the Melanesian race. However, this is not the case because "genetic markers" show that the Polynesians over 1,000 years ago were devoid of Melanesian genetics. Since the Lapita pottery is dated up to 3,000 years ago, how could it be that Polynesians could trade extensively with Melanesians yet be so devoid of any mingling of genetics?
With this I submit a co-mingling of Polynesian oral history alongside other evidences:
http://books.google.com/books...
Page 239
"Like the Kingsmills, Rarotonga seems to have been colonized from two sides at once; but both parties came originally from Samoa. Two clans hold Rarotonga, the Ngati Makea and the Ngati Tangiia. Tradition says that Karika, chief of the clan Makea, came from Manua, in Samoa, 800 miles N.W., and discovered Rarotonga; that he returned to Manua, and formed an expedition to settle in Rarotonga, and sailed. Upon his arrival a second time he fell in with Tangiia, who had come from Tahiti; Karika had only warriors in his party. Tangiia had some women and children; so Tangiia yielded the supremacy to Karika, which is maintained yet. The two clans settled together amicably, but found some black people there before them."
Notice that the Polynesians said that these parts were inhabited by other people who were black. Could it be that these islands which proved to have Lapita pottery came from people who inhabited the islands prior to the arrival of Polynesians? oral history of our people actually supports this theory.
Let me give you a quick analogy;
I moved into a home that was vacated by the former tenants who were migrants from Africa. When they vacated the premise they left a few distinct potteries they brought with them from Africa. As the new tenant of this home I thought it was fascinating so I put them up as decorations. One day I invited a friend over who immediately recognized the distinct pottery belonging to those from Africa. Knowing that I was NOT African, he asked "when did you go to Africa?", I was puzzled and stated I am Samoan not African. He nodded and added surely you must have gone to Africa at some point since you have distinct pottery from Africa. I laughed and told him I had no recollection of any trip to Africa or a history with any pottery on display, I simply inherited the home that was vacated by the former tenants who were African.
Listen to your ancestors stories and you will find out that they only inherited Tonga, Samoa, etc., after another race abandoned it. They are not Melanesian, it's just that simple. Stop trying to claim a product you have no ties to.

ok if you dont support the lapita theory then which do you agree with the two main theories are the lapita and americas .if you go with the theory that we polynesians come from the americas (alaska)then hawaii is our home land ?

[Samoa Moni]

palangi loi wrote:

<quoted text>ok if you dont support the lapita theory then which do you agree with the two main theories are the lapita and americas .if you go with the theory that we polynesians come from the americas (alaska)then hawaii is our home land ?

Again, you would have to look at all the evidences for or against. The further back you go the sketchier it gets. I'm not really concerned with where we originated as Polynesians prior to the migration to Polynesia, I'm more concerned with our history as presented by the stories of our ancestors coupled with more recent connections. What I do know is that lapita pottery is not a Polynesian product, it is Melanesian, therefore we cannot use a foreign product to date our arrival to Polynesia.

So my answer to your question would be that I have no official stance on our history prior to our arrival in Polynesia. Quite frankly, I'm not to concerned with it either because the evidence is to hazy to decide on any solid foundation.

[Killerz of Tonga]

Samoa Moni wrote:

It's quite comedic to see Killerz of Muli turn into a clown right before our very eyes!
I'm guessing that he is done trying to prove his point since he has been completely destroyed by me. All he has now is to make fun and call names. lol. The funny thing is that his Tui's were all Samoan from the island of Samoa born from a Samoan woman because true royalty of the Tui Tonga came from the high born women of Samoa NOT Tonga. lol.
I don't even have to use Samoan history because I've been using Tongan history to tell idiots like you where your kings all came from. lol. Kamehameha, Tui Tonga, Tui Tokelau, Tui Rarotonga, etc., all have the blood of Samoa.
You feel me? lol.

bahahahahaha hey foi pi! lol i aint phased by your pity pathetic tall stories of tui manua or how tui tokelau (thats if that title exsits proberbly another samoan lie :-) because at the end of the day its always a few samoans who always seem to try and chase us Tongans around trying to explain to us in thier own silly pathetic attempts as to WHY,HOW ... Tonga RULED and ENSLAVED samoa (amongst other islands)in the ancients...

its ok soleusi sekia samoa mimi....

you proberbly all wound up when it was revealed to you that your gay kaulima tattoo on your girly arms was a slave band insrcipted by the Tongan slavemasters in samoa lol

P.S remember to keep your head up, keep smiling, love your husband and be proud to be malietoa lol bahahahahahahahahahaha

[Samoa Moni]

Killerz of Tonga wrote:

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bahahahahaha hey foi pi! lol i aint phased by your pity pathetic tall stories of tui manua or how tui tokelau (thats if that title exsits proberbly another samoan lie :-) because at the end of the day its always a few samoans who always seem to try and chase us Tongans around trying to explain to us in thier own silly pathetic attempts as to WHY,HOW ... Tonga RULED and ENSLAVED samoa (amongst other islands)in the ancients...
its ok soleusi sekia samoa mimi....
you proberbly all wound up when it was revealed to you that your gay kaulima tattoo on your girly arms was a slave band insrcipted by the Tongan slavemasters in samoa lol
P.S remember to keep your head up, keep smiling, love your husband and be proud to be malietoa lol bahahahahahahahahahaha

I notice that your posts are becoming fewer. I also notice that you have turned into a joker rather than a wannabe scholar. I think it's best that you stick to your level of understanding. I mean it's pretty bad when I use the words of Tongans against you. I'm guessing your view of "killer Tonga" has shrunk. It's ok though because this is what people experience when they step into a conversation that they can't handle.

Kalofai.... lol.

[2C3nts]

Polynesia couldnt have came frm America..No possible way..pacific ocean is 2 big and 2 rough for people frm America at that time 2 sail even 2 hawaii..Polynesia came frm melonesia..First lived in Tonga and so on..Potteries are the only Facts..we can all come up with theories about anything, but History is not made up of theories but with Facts..FACTS shows TONGA as the birthplace of polynesia not Samoa..Only one thing that could prove me wrong and thats if Adam and Eve came frm Samoa..LOL