Negotiator: Daly City may face police exodus

Daly City's police officers are working without a contract, and John Noble wants to fix that.

[jlt79]

The arrogance of the Daly City Finance Finance Director, Mr. McVey only shows how much he values people who work in Daly City. How much does Mr. McVey make a year and what does his retirement package look like? Is anyone on the city council supporting the Police Department? I hope so and if they are...get them to bring in their supporters!

[Jack Kirkpatrick]

Probably the safety retirement of the police and fire... at 3% or 3.5% are superior to for most city retirement that is 2.0% to 2.5% after 30 yrs at their top salary.

The finance director and city manager may have a contract with a severance package that may put some extra money in their pocket, but in the long term, safety employees can retire at 50 or 55 and still carry on a new career elsewhere. Our California safety employees have a far better retirement package than most anyone in the nation. Most counties have similar benefits, but pay salary may be slightly less in smaller counties.

Salaries in the bay area is geared to CHP, and 5 or six top salaries and LA and OC may help in setting that standard....

You can obtain the salary for many civil service position from the city, county or state after a recent court decision and the Internet has some of these posted. Remember too, many safety employees get promoted through the years and that just adds to their retirement salary.

Safety employees are a privileged group as are civil servants compared to the private sector!

[TTT]

Jack Kirkpatrick wrote:

Probably the safety retirement of the police and fire... at 3% or 3.5% are superior to for most city retirement that is 2.0% to 2.5% after 30 yrs at their top salary.
The finance director and city manager may have a contract with a severance package that may put some extra money in their pocket, but in the long term, safety employees can retire at 50 or 55 and still carry on a new career elsewhere. Our California safety employees have a far better retirement package than most anyone in the nation. Most counties have similar benefits, but pay salary may be slightly less in smaller counties.
Salaries in the bay area is geared to CHP, and 5 or six top salaries and LA and OC may help in setting that standard....
You can obtain the salary for many civil service position from the city, county or state after a recent court decision and the Internet has some of these posted. Remember too, many safety employees get promoted through the years and that just adds to their retirement salary.
Safety employees are a privileged group as are civil servants compared to the private sector!

here we go again, get over it, the 3 at 50 is the norm for safety retirement, also you dont put into social security, chp and other large cities are not used as benchmark cities, only cities of similar size and composition, get a live jack

[scout]

It's not the lack of pay or benefits, it's the social philosophy of ignorance and stupidity and legal idolization of criminals that forces out best citizens of solid character to seek employment elsewhere.

What we want are God fearing men that can kick ass on criminals and not be worried about wrongfully being placed into prison by kooki social influences.

Public school teachers have a similar problem but with different consequences. Our very best are NOT entering teaching because God fearing people of character do not want to become a part of the pagan curriculum philosophy.

The above forces a perpetuation and a growth of ignorance and foolishness within both institutions.

We NEED people who can teach and demand respect, and we NEED people that can shoot and kill criminals without being placed into prison themselves.

The dumbing down of the USA was not an accident, as we note that ruling ideas take precedence.

We must revert all Bolshevik and Nazi ideologies immediately to the dung heap of filth, where they belong.

[Jack Kirkpatrick]

You may want to review the Windfall Elimination Provision if you are in safety retirement:

"Your Social Security retirement or disability benefits may be reduced
If you work for an employer who does not withhold Social Security taxes from your salary, such as a government agency or an employer in another country, the pension you get based on that work may reduce your Social Security benefits.

The Windfall Elimination Provision affects how the amount of your retirement or disability benefit is calculated if you receive a pension from work where Social Security taxes were not taken out of your pay. A modified formula is used to calculate your benefit amount, resulting in a lower Social Security benefit than you otherwise would receive."

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10045.html

[TTT]

Jack Kirkpatrick wrote:

You may want to review the Windfall Elimination Provision if you are in safety retirement:
"Your Social Security retirement or disability benefits may be reduced
If you work for an employer who does not withhold Social Security taxes from your salary, such as a government agency or an employer in another country, the pension you get based on that work may reduce your Social Security benefits.
The Windfall Elimination Provision affects how the amount of your retirement or disability benefit is calculated if you receive a pension from work where Social Security taxes were not taken out of your pay. A modified formula is used to calculate your benefit amount, resulting in a lower Social Security benefit than you otherwise would receive."
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10045.html

everybody in safety retirement is aware of this, most agencies don't contribute to social security. end of story

[TTT]

bu the way, I have not made social security contributions since 1977