Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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<quoted text>vedry same topic, that i don't support marriage equality. do try to keep up, dear, i know it is taxing for those both of those little grey cells of yours...
You approve of incest marriage? Religious fundie type polygamy? I find that very hard to believe. But if you say so and it's really true, I take it back that you are a hypocrite. If it's not true of course you are a liar.

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<quoted text>ummm...wow! gays have been in the military since recoreded history. your argument was proven wrong millenia before you were told to parrot it.
even Alexander the Great, one of the greatest conquerers and rulers of all time was gay...
hmmm...you didnt think that one out well, did you?
Sorry, Woody but "gays" didn't exist back then. The use of the word "gay" to denote homosexuality, also a relatively recently coined word to describe same sex sexual behavior, is only a few decades old. No rainbow flags among Alexander the Great troops.

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<quoted text>seems you like the labels also, even false ones...
i just strive for clarity.
Clarity? Why not just keep it simple, men and women. You can even use SSA (same sex attraction)Save the sexual identity labels for the monthly rainbow club meetings.

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Clarity? Why not just keep it simple, men and women. You can even use SSA (same sex attraction)Save the sexual identity labels for the monthly rainbow club meetings.
because conjugal marriage also includes men and men, and women and women...that would not be clarity.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Sorry, Woody but "gays" didn't exist back then. The use of the word "gay" to denote homosexuality, also a relatively recently coined word to describe same sex sexual behavior, is only a few decades old. No rainbow flags among Alexander the Great troops.
but gays were there nonetheless...

seems you are so into labels all of a sudden...why?

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You approve of incest marriage? Religious fundie type polygamy? I find that very hard to believe. But if you say so and it's really true, I take it back that you are a hypocrite. If it's not true of course you are a liar.
if all the laws can be changed to make them equal to the legal marriages we have now, i have no problem with them at all. said so many times...

religious fundie marriages have nothing to do with real marriage legal marriage is what we are talking about. religious rites of matrimony hold the same weight as a group of people dancing around a fire and waving sticks...

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<quoted text>but gays were there nonetheless...
seems you are so into labels all of a sudden...why?
Same sex sexual behavior existed, yes, a rainbow flag waving bumper sticker on the chariot identity, no.

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<quoted text>because conjugal marriage also includes men and men, and women and women...that would not be clarity.
And lesbian also includes men too.
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So much for majority rules huh!? Can't depend on a system that's broke that's for sure.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>because conjugal marriage also includes men and men, and women and women...that would not be clarity.
http://thomists.wordpress.com/2013/03/30/gett...
Getting Marriage Right: The Case for Conjugal Marriage

http://www.mercatornet.com/conjugality

http://www.conjugality.com/

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/84394382

http://bridgesandtangents.wordpress.com/2012/...

In defence of conjugality: the common-good case against same-sex marriage

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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http://thomists.wordpress.com/2013/03/30/gett...
Getting Marriage Right: The Case for Conjugal Marriage
http://www.mercatornet.com/conjugality
http://www.conjugality.com/
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/84394382
http://bridgesandtangents.wordpress.com/2012/...
In defence of conjugality: the common-good case against same-sex marriage
there is no common-good case against same sex marriage.
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<quoted text>if all the laws can be changed to make them equal to the legal marriages we have now, i have no problem with them at all. said so many times...
religious fundie marriages have nothing to do with real marriage legal marriage is what we are talking about. religious rites of matrimony hold the same weight as a group of people dancing around a fire and waving sticks...
Fundamentalists have a substantial first amendment right to marry according to the dictates of their faith. Your support for marriage equality extends to them I hope? It sure doesn't sound like it.

Even if they wave sticks and dance around fires, they deserve the same equal protection of the law as you.
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Wood Stocked up and ready to go for winter.

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Fundamentalists have a substantial first amendment right to marry according to the dictates of their faith. Your support for marriage equality extends to them I hope? It sure doesn't sound like it.
Even if they wave sticks and dance around fires, they deserve the same equal protection of the law as you.
they most certainly do, once they have a legal marriage.

you stated fundie religous marriage, there is only one marriage, the legal civil marriage that is the purview of the state.

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Wood Stocked up and ready to go for winter.
seriously? winter in LA county? did you get a bundle of wood from the circle K?
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Wood Stocked up and ready to go for winter, sooner or later winter will come.

Like the boy scouts it pays to be prepared.
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<quoted text>they most certainly do, once they have a legal marriage.
you stated fundie religous marriage, there is only one marriage, the legal civil marriage that is the purview of the state.
Yes. And fundies have a right to it too.
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<quoted text>they most certainly do, once they have a legal marriage.
you stated fundie religous marriage, there is only one marriage, the legal civil marriage that is the purview of the state.
So they have a right to marry once they are married? Priceless. You need to rethink that.

Polygamy deserves the same respect and consideration as same sex marriage.
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Wood Stocked up and ready to go for winter, sooner or later winter will come.
Like the boy scouts it pays to be prepared.
Run it through the chipper, get the woodticks out of it.
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<quoted text>His apartment on someone elses land, paying into a home owners ass. almost paid off, is better. Good one . yuk yuk yuk
It's a condominium. We (the homeowners, collectively) own the land as well as the building. I pay the homeowner's association to have a 24 hour front desk/concierge, pool, gym, full time staff of 9, and full maintenance of the grounds and building. And FYI, "almost paid off" means the mortgage is almost paid off and then I have at least $500K of equity. This means if I sell I walk away with $500K less closing costs.

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