Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,317

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#213697 Aug 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
You approve of incest marriage? Religious fundie type polygamy? I find that very hard to believe. But if you say so and it's really true, I take it back that you are a hypocrite. If it's not true of course you are a liar.
if all the laws can be changed to make them equal to the legal marriages we have now, i have no problem with them at all. said so many times...

religious fundie marriages have nothing to do with real marriage legal marriage is what we are talking about. religious rites of matrimony hold the same weight as a group of people dancing around a fire and waving sticks...

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#213698 Aug 31, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>but gays were there nonetheless...
seems you are so into labels all of a sudden...why?
Same sex sexual behavior existed, yes, a rainbow flag waving bumper sticker on the chariot identity, no.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#213699 Aug 31, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>because conjugal marriage also includes men and men, and women and women...that would not be clarity.
And lesbian also includes men too.
Anonymous

Hesperia, CA

#213700 Aug 31, 2013
So much for majority rules huh!? Can't depend on a system that's broke that's for sure.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#213701 Aug 31, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>because conjugal marriage also includes men and men, and women and women...that would not be clarity.
http://thomists.wordpress.com/2013/03/30/gett...
Getting Marriage Right: The Case for Conjugal Marriage

http://www.mercatornet.com/conjugality

http://www.conjugality.com/

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/84394382

http://bridgesandtangents.wordpress.com/2012/...

In defence of conjugality: the common-good case against same-sex marriage

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#213702 Aug 31, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
http://thomists.wordpress.com/2013/03/30/gett...
Getting Marriage Right: The Case for Conjugal Marriage
http://www.mercatornet.com/conjugality
http://www.conjugality.com/
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/84394382
http://bridgesandtangents.wordpress.com/2012/...
In defence of conjugality: the common-good case against same-sex marriage
there is no common-good case against same sex marriage.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213703 Aug 31, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>if all the laws can be changed to make them equal to the legal marriages we have now, i have no problem with them at all. said so many times...
religious fundie marriages have nothing to do with real marriage legal marriage is what we are talking about. religious rites of matrimony hold the same weight as a group of people dancing around a fire and waving sticks...
Fundamentalists have a substantial first amendment right to marry according to the dictates of their faith. Your support for marriage equality extends to them I hope? It sure doesn't sound like it.

Even if they wave sticks and dance around fires, they deserve the same equal protection of the law as you.
Chipper

Monrovia, CA

#213704 Aug 31, 2013
Wood Stocked up and ready to go for winter.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#213705 Aug 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Fundamentalists have a substantial first amendment right to marry according to the dictates of their faith. Your support for marriage equality extends to them I hope? It sure doesn't sound like it.
Even if they wave sticks and dance around fires, they deserve the same equal protection of the law as you.
they most certainly do, once they have a legal marriage.

you stated fundie religous marriage, there is only one marriage, the legal civil marriage that is the purview of the state.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#213706 Aug 31, 2013
Chipper wrote:
Wood Stocked up and ready to go for winter.
seriously? winter in LA county? did you get a bundle of wood from the circle K?
Chipper

Monrovia, CA

#213707 Aug 31, 2013
Wood Stocked up and ready to go for winter, sooner or later winter will come.

Like the boy scouts it pays to be prepared.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213708 Aug 31, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>they most certainly do, once they have a legal marriage.
you stated fundie religous marriage, there is only one marriage, the legal civil marriage that is the purview of the state.
Yes. And fundies have a right to it too.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213709 Aug 31, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>they most certainly do, once they have a legal marriage.
you stated fundie religous marriage, there is only one marriage, the legal civil marriage that is the purview of the state.
So they have a right to marry once they are married? Priceless. You need to rethink that.

Polygamy deserves the same respect and consideration as same sex marriage.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#213710 Aug 31, 2013
Chipper wrote:
Wood Stocked up and ready to go for winter, sooner or later winter will come.
Like the boy scouts it pays to be prepared.
Run it through the chipper, get the woodticks out of it.
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#213713 Aug 31, 2013
commonpeeps wrote:
<quoted text>His apartment on someone elses land, paying into a home owners ass. almost paid off, is better. Good one . yuk yuk yuk
It's a condominium. We (the homeowners, collectively) own the land as well as the building. I pay the homeowner's association to have a 24 hour front desk/concierge, pool, gym, full time staff of 9, and full maintenance of the grounds and building. And FYI, "almost paid off" means the mortgage is almost paid off and then I have at least $500K of equity. This means if I sell I walk away with $500K less closing costs.
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#213714 Aug 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, kookaa's "luxury condo" (cheesy apartment) that's "almost paid for" (section 8 rent subsidy on our dime).
I own a house on each coast, real houses with land and sh!t and a I have a vacation cabin on leased land. No mortgages. But no one's house is ever really "paid for" with the moochers having their hands out for property taxes which if you don't pay they take your house just like a mortgage.
I have no mortgage but I have to pay kookaa's rent. You can't win.
By the way I paid for my houses without the married tax breaks. Being single I pay for the tax breaks for the married whiners like kookaa. And now there's a whole new group of moochers getting tax breaks for me to subsidize while they whine I'm a big meany bigot.
Whoop!~Whoop! BBQ time!
I do not pay rent. I own a luxury high-rise condo with an ocean view, FYI. And in about another year, no mortgage. BTW, section 8 refers to government assistance on rental property, not privately owned condos. So educate yourself before you spout off.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#213715 Sep 1, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>C'mon Kimare, that isn't even close to proof of the total bullshit you pulled out of your ass.
don't insult me, i am not nearly as stupid as you are to not see what you stated as pure and utter bullshit....
Apparently you have trouble connecting dots when they are spelled out...

What prevents Israel from becoming a fully democratic country?

What is at the basis of the largest demographic change occurring right now in America?

Why is France (just one of many European countries), finally rising against immigration?

But it is more than just a falling birth rate, it is the loss of cultural identity when broken homes fail to pass on the heritage they represent.

It is why wiser SCOTUS rulings noted that marriage and family is foundational to the health of a society.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#213716 Sep 1, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>ummm...wow! gays have been in the military since recoreded history. your argument was proven wrong millenia before you were told to parrot it.
even Alexander the Great, one of the greatest conquerers and rulers of all time was gay...
hmmm...you didnt think that one out well, did you?
And the same year DADT was eliminated, sexual assault in the military skyrocketed.

More men were assaulted than women.

Despite the fact that 98% of men are heterosexual, and only 2% at most are gay.

hmmm...you didnt think that one out well, did you?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#213717 Sep 1, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
From Obama's speech on the 50th Anniversary of the March...
"Because they marched, America became more free and more fair not just for African Americans, but for women and Latinos, Asians and Native Americans; for Catholics, Jews, and Muslims; for gays, for Americans with a disability. America changed for you and for me. and the entire world drew strength from that example, whether the young people who watched from the other side of an Iron Curtain and would eventually tear down that wall, or the young people inside South Africa who would eventually end the scourge of apartheid."
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Obama's speech clearly indicates that many groups have benefited from the Civil Rights Movement.
Civil rights are about rights and freedom for all people.
I don't care what others think--you or any other group. LGBT rights and protections ARE civil rights.
Thankfully, the world is racing in that direction.
I met an 11 year old gay activist last night at a Marriage Equality celebration. He took on John Ragan, a Republican representative in Oak Ridge who supported the "Classroom Protection Act", which was a cleaned up version of a thrice failed bill called the "Don't Say Gay" bill.
The "Classroom Protection Act" would have made it illegal for a teacher to even utter the word "gay" or "homosexual". Furthermore, it mandated that if a child or teen went to a school counselor to talk about being gay, the counselor was mandated to contact the child's parents.
"Students First" presented John Ragan with an award for being "Reformer of the Year".
This eleven year old kid, Marcel Neergaard, put together a campaign to get signatures; demanding that "Students First" reverse the award to Ragan.
He was able to get nearly 70,000 signatures.
"Students First" took the hint and took away Ragan's award.
That's the kind of world that your LGBT children and grandchildren will inherit.
Forty years ago we were called "disordered". We couldn't openly hold a job, enlist in the military, marry, etc. Look where we are now.
If there's anybody in denial, Bub, it's you...
MLK would roll over in his grave if he knew calling ss couples married was being aligned with the civil rights movement.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#213718 Sep 1, 2013
In the end,

Marriage is a miraculous union of two genders,
a union so profound,
it is described as the union of Mars and Venus.
It reunites humanity to the roots of life,
while at the very same time
hosting the best and natural
birth place of future human life.
It is the blend of masculinity and femininity.
The wisdom of logic and intuition united.
Strength and delicacy perfectly balanced.
Protection and nurture combined as one.
A complimentary merging that multiplies the unbiased blend of humanity's genders.

A ss couple cannot equate to a single one of these distinctions.

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