just because you quote or reply to a posting doesn't mean that you're attacking anyone. that much we all understand. so don't be afraid to hit "reply".To heartandmind, I know exactly who wrote what, but I really do not want for the most part to attack anyone personally because they wrote something that I do not agree with. I know how to reply on this forum, but not everybody reads every post, like myself, I do not either read every post. If I start reading and I see that someone is using filthy language, or calling names to one another, I immediately move on to another post. I have said that my husband and I are only on this forum for one purpose. We believe in witnessing about Christ, so in that being said, we feel that there is so many people out there that are crying, feeling guilty for what they have done and do not know what to do, thinking about commtting suicide (of which I have read on the internet that many homosexuals have already committed suicide), or anything that they may need help for in any sin that they are doing. We do not have all the answers to everything and I have never said that, but we are not here for those who attack us or say bad things, we are only here to help someone to find God through His Son Jesus (Yeshua) and he will do the rest. If someone does not like our post and does not agree that is fine, but it does not really bother us, for we are not here for them. This post is suppose to be about prop. 8 and that has to do with same-sex marriages and that has to do with homosexuals, so we decided to come on to this forum and maybe someone will listen to what God has to say about it, for we did not write the Scriptures, we are only trying to tell what most people would not take the time to check the Bible out for themselves, but there are those who do read it only to argue about it and we do know the difference.
Thank you for your comment.
you say you're here for those crying out for help....fine...but you do realize that we've all been offered the same "help" you're offering throughout our lives. and that "help" you think you offer doesn't really "help". i point to exodus international as a reference. i point to the latest laws in california and now new jersey making it illegal for this "tranformative therapy" to be done to minors. that should be a dead giveaway to you and others like you that everyone views those "efforts" as non-effective - some would say even downright offensive and abusive.
furthermore, if you're attempting to council those that are "crying and feeling guilty about what they've done", i think you need to know that you could do more harm to a person's psyche than good. i know this because i work in a program in my community that councils teens that have attempted suicide or have threatened to commit suicide. my pastor and fellwo congregant that's a clinical psychologist bring me in when it's a gay or questioning teen that's been bullied or abused. and by and large, given that we're in texas (bible belt buckle, so to speak), what i hear is not good. every single teen has told us the same story - hearing the same things you're talking about sharing. maybe not as kindly as you're attempting to phrase things....but, it's there. the blood of many teens and young adults is on the hands of those that try what you're doing - pushing the kids around emotionally by using those same biblical passages, their faith, their religion against the kid. even the kids that are around these teens are doing the same things - and have been taught by their parents and their churches..so they're just acting on what they've been taught.
you may think you're doing good - but you're hurting more than helping kids. please, stop, and let trained professionals deal with the hurting souls, if for no other reason than to save a life.