Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201864 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204902 Jul 26, 2013
poof wrote:
<quoted text>Put down the hate hammer Frank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =_5IVuN1N6-YXX
Cute song. For the seventies. But it's the 21st century Jizzy.

Who do I hate dummy?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204903 Jul 26, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Sounds like a case of polyphobia.
Yes. And hate. And bigotry. And hypocrisy.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204904 Jul 26, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Tell that to the children physically and mentally abused with no way out because the wedding rings were re-forged into handcuffs...
Oh spare us.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204905 Jul 26, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Laws exist, and did exist to address those situation. A crime is a crime. Nice try Big Denial.
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You're kidding yourself to think that the force of law hasn't encouraged families to stay together and work things out far more often than the reverse. Why bother with legal marriage at all if a couple needs the state to begin with?
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Having the law behind the family, holding mothers/wives and fathers/husbands accountable, helps them and their children. Every family has ups and downs. The law should encourage families to stay together, absent abuse, neglect, or some other LEGITIMATE grounds, not to. Why do you wish to weaken the nuclear family?
I donít, why do you?

I want to strengthen the nuclear family, and you do that by actually working on your relationship and your family, not by relying on laws to keep you together

You want the easy way, your wife forced to stay with you, regardless of how you treat one another, regardless of how unhappy and unhealthy it is for your children.

I want people to work on their relationships building strong families that donít rely on the crutch of law to keep them together but actually work together to build a strong family for themselves and their children.

Why do you want to weaken the nuclear family?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204906 Jul 26, 2013
poof wrote:
<quoted text>Put down the hate hammer Frank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =_5IVuN1N6-YXX
Stop hating Jizzy.
poof

Cambridge, IL

#204907 Jul 26, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Cute song. For the seventies. But it's the 21st century Jizzy.
Who do I hate dummy?
Gays and lesbians are not a dannger to you Frank, stop all the Hate, love each other, is it that hard?
poof

Cambridge, IL

#204908 Jul 26, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Cute song. For the seventies. But it's the 21st century Jizzy.
Who do I hate dummy?
It was true then, as it is today. Love the one you're with. Not sexualy, but for who they are. Its not hard to do.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204909 Jul 26, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I donít, why do you?
I want to strengthen the nuclear family, and you do that by actually working on your relationship and your family, not by relying on laws to keep you together
You want the easy way, your wife forced to stay with you, regardless of how you treat one another, regardless of how unhappy and unhealthy it is for your children.
I want people to work on their relationships building strong families that donít rely on the crutch of law to keep them together but actually work together to build a strong family for themselves and their children.
Why do you want to weaken the nuclear family?
How does making it easy to walk away strengthen the family?

Why will people work harder to stay together if it's easier to walk away?
Mikey

Fullerton, CA

#204910 Jul 26, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Sounds like a case of polyphobia.
Really? Yes, I'm afraid of greedy bigots!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204911 Jul 26, 2013
poof wrote:
<quoted text>It was true then, as it is today. Love the one you're with. Not sexualy, but for who they are. Its not hard to do.
Cool! So why don't you love me then Jizzy?

You give advice on love yet you hate Mormons and are happy that they cannot marry according to the dictates of their faith. You are a hypocrite. You would deny people marriage equality based on their religion.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204912 Jul 26, 2013
poof wrote:
<quoted text>Gays and lesbians are not a dannger to you Frank, stop all the Hate, love each other, is it that hard?
I don't hate gays and lesbians Jizzy. You think I do because you are stupid. I can't help you with that, as you are well aware you can't fix stupid.

You are a hater, not me. I fully support marriage equality. You do not.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204913 Jul 26, 2013
Mikey wrote:
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Really? Yes, I'm afraid of greedy bigots!
What harm would a marriage of three men cause you and why would it be "greedy"?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204914 Jul 26, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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How does making it easy to walk away strengthen the family?
Why will people work harder to stay together if it's easier to walk away?
I have already explained that, learn to read.

The difference is one of goals

They think they strengthen families by forcing miserable people to stay together in an unhealthy marriage, relying on the crutch of law to keep them together.

I think you strengthen a family by actively working on your relationship and build a stronger happier and more healthy family without being lazy and relying on the crutch of law.

I am for fewer laws, they are for more lawsÖ. Go figure

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#204915 Jul 26, 2013
Mikey wrote:
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Really? Yes, I'm afraid of greedy bigots!
No....you're just a bigot.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#204916 Jul 26, 2013
Mikey wrote:
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BS..Polygamy is Pure greed..and not worthy of ANY respect.
Okay Mikey....let's try this another way. Why is it acceptable for two or more women to share a baby's daddy, but not a husband?
poof

Cambridge, IL

#204917 Jul 26, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Cool! So why don't you love me then Jizzy?
You give advice on love yet you hate Mormons and are happy that they cannot marry according to the dictates of their faith. You are a hypocrite. You would deny people marriage equality based on their religion.
I don't hate Mormons, I married one, my wife has been a Mormon all her life, her family all belongs to the Mormon Church.. Why do you hate LGBT? Its clear that you don't support the strugle for equality among the LGBT community. You show that each and every day when you disrespect the marriage of the Gays and Lesbians who post here. Why Frank, why??

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#204918 Jul 26, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I want to strengthen the nuclear family, and you do that by actually working on your relationship and your family, not by relying on laws to keep you together
So why bother keeping marriage legal at all then?
You want the easy way, your wife forced to stay with you, regardless of how you treat one another, regardless of how unhappy and unhealthy it is for your children.
Quite the contrary, I don't want the "easy way", nor do I want the state, the issuer of the license, to make it easier, to reduce the reasons for marital break up, to the realm of trivial. In some states a married person could be charged with the crime of adultery, but end his/her marriage without fault?
I want people to work on their relationships building strong families that donít rely on the crutch of law to keep them together but actually work together to build a strong family for themselves and their children.
As do I, so why take away state support? Why not have certain grounds for divorce? Explain why that is wrong?
Why do you want to weaken the nuclear family?
I would only if it agreed with your contention.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204919 Jul 26, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I have already explained that, learn to read.
The difference is one of goals
They think they strengthen families by forcing miserable people to stay together in an unhealthy marriage, relying on the crutch of law to keep them together.
I think you strengthen a family by actively working on your relationship and build a stronger happier and more healthy family without being lazy and relying on the crutch of law.
I am for fewer laws, they are for more lawsÖ. Go figure
I can read. You have tried but you have not convinced anyone that making it easier to divorce leads to less divorce.

Please provide evidence.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#204920 Jul 26, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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That's just it! SSM is a reality because of the failure of men and women to treat marriage with respect, to honor our commitments.
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I see, perhaps we should consult Dan Savage for advice on how to be monogamish?
Or we could talk to Newt Gingrich about remaining faithful to one's wedding vows.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204921 Jul 26, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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So why bother keeping marriage legal at all then?
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Quite the contrary, I don't want the "easy way", nor do I want the state, the issuer of the license, to make it easier, to reduce the reasons for marital break up, to the realm of trivial. In some states a married person could be charged with the crime of adultery, but end his/her marriage without fault?
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As do I, so why take away state support? Why not have certain grounds for divorce? Explain why that is wrong?
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I would only if it agreed with your contention.
You think that forcing someone into prison and locking them in will make them a model criticism ( a parallel )

I donít

You want to rely on the crutch of law to keep families together regardless of how miserable they are, so they rely on that law as opposed to working to improve their relationship.

I donít think that works as well as a family that is well aware that divorce is an easy option, and choose to stay together and work on their relationship for their own sakes and their childrenís.

You want the government to run families

I donít, I think families should.

It is a difference in goals, you have your eye on one goal, making divorce more difficult , while I have the goal of actually making families stronger.

I donít think reliance on the government is the way to make families stronger.

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