Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,360

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#199378 Jul 1, 2013
Nutty Cairo wrote:
I have a new Drone target:
Hospital reports Dutch journalist underwent gang rape in Cairo square in June 2013. Reporter released from hospital after undergoing surgery.
What do you expect from immoral people and their form of government, must be the books they read?
Sounds like the new America. Rose would be proud, she adores those peaceful islamics.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#199379 Jul 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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The state isn't interested in the social or legal aspects of marriage? Than why are we here?
lol..good question. no kidding

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#199380 Jul 1, 2013
Forestall wrote:
Finally 2 LAUSD officials demoted, principal leaves over handling of sex-abuse complaints.
They should have been beaten and then stripped clean of their retirements.
I thought you didn't embrace sharia law? Now you do?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#199382 Jul 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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You are the only one claiming anything is or is not mandated I simply note natures results. Marriage results in children, SS relationships never do.
Oh, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Who gives a damn that straight people can make children? Procreation promises are not a requirement for marriage between heterosexual couples. Why do you keep bringing up this issue as though it matters?

Furthermore, as has been pointed out to you numerous times, gay couples can and do adopt children. Consider that before you get on here again and try to point out the childlessness of gay couples.

Nothing that you can say here or anywhere will make a difference in the fact that same-sex marriage is here and is spreading throughout the country.

I can't wait for the day when people such as yourself will be forced to sit down and STFU about this issue. It will happen. Hopefully you, a self-described near-senile, jack-ass, will hang on until that day.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#199383 Jul 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Sad, even scary angry denial.
I seriously think you need help.
Said the pot to the kettle...
laughing man

UK

#199384 Jul 1, 2013
very vegetative wrote:
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Nothing that you can say here or anywhere will make a difference in the fact that same-sex marriage is here and is spreading throughout the country.
Lower IQ's are spreading like wildfire too, Brucie. Reckon there's a correlation?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#199385 Jul 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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No doubt. Even though Jonah1 is a male and therefore a "husband" he sure acts like a wife!
Nag...nag...naaaag...:)
Operation Greylord

Tampa, FL

#199386 Jul 1, 2013
skg wrote:
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Don't you understand you cant vote on unconstitutional issues. That is the whole point. Look into the issue.
..........is this a honest judge ........or is he like Mark Ciavarella , mike monahan , mike nifong , mike raphan, Martin Manton , jay bybee , Avigdor Spechler , The FUSION CENTER Thugs , the kosher nostra and the MOMBACH JONATHAN POLLARD FIFTH COLUMN of AIPAC..........See THE LAW IN THESE PARTS and FIVE BROKEN CAMERAS , Goldstone Report and BY WAY OF DECEPTION AT THE AIPAC-FUSION CENTERS OF BILDERBERG.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#199387 Jul 1, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Who gives a damn that straight people can make children? Procreation promises are not a requirement for marriage between heterosexual couples. Why do you keep bringing up this issue as though it matters?
Furthermore, as has been pointed out to you numerous times, gay couples can and do adopt children. Consider that before you get on here again and try to point out the childlessness of gay couples.
Nothing that you can say here or anywhere will make a difference in the fact that same-sex marriage is here and is spreading throughout the country.
I can't wait for the day when people such as yourself will be forced to sit down and STFU about this issue. It will happen. Hopefully you, a self-described near-senile, jack-ass, will hang on until that day.
So if I just don't say it, the reality will change? Do you understand what you are saying???

If it doesn't matter, why do you want me to 'STFU'?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#199388 Jul 1, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Who gives a damn that straight people can make children?
Quite a few people actually otherwise this debate wouldn't be necessary. Also, men and women make babies, the orientation is irrelevant in that.
Procreation promises are not a requirement for marriage between heterosexual couples. Why do you keep bringing up this issue as though it matters?
Hellloooooooo.....earth to Big Red.....marriage laws are based on the union of husband and wife, including their sexual union. Although not a "requirement", as somehow now it would need to be in order to rationalize SSM, husbands and wives are expected to consummate their marriage if desired and physically capable, and engage in "marital relations". It matters because its crucial as to how marriage is defined. SSMers have to dismiss it, or marginalize it in order to promote their cause.
Furthermore, as has been pointed out to you numerous times, gay couples can and do adopt children. Consider that before you get on here again and try to point out the childlessness of gay couples.
Single people can adopt children, adult siblings can adopt children......your point?
Nothing that you can say here or anywhere will make a difference in the fact that same-sex marriage is here and is spreading throughout the country.
No doubt it's here. As to it's spread, who knows, maybe the Supreme Court unwittingly galvanized SSM opponents to redouble their efforts.
I can't wait for the day when people such as yourself will be forced to sit down and STFU about this issue. It will happen. Hopefully you, a self-described near-senile, jack-ass, will hang on until that day.
That could be after polygamy is legal, and the state decides to get out of the marriage business all together. If the state no longer recognizes marriage, is it still a right?

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#199389 Jul 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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So if I just don't say it, the reality will change? Do you understand what you are saying???
If it doesn't matter, why do you want me to 'STFU'?
There's my point all along; you don't matter. You're opinions bear no relevance to my marriage.

Thanks for finally admitting it. however.

Troll on, Greg.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#199390 Jul 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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It's wrong to state facts because they annoy you???
Guess you missed the part where I spoke of "intent". No worries, you've demonstrated that you have the comprehension ability of a hamster, so no one surprised by this. Tell me, do you also hang out at the street corner of your congregation and yell, "You're FAT" to everyone overweight person that walks by? One can only imaging you do.
KiMare wrote:
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You mean like, the SCOTUS ruling still hasn't changed the distinctions between your relationship and marriage?
SCOTUS doesn't address the imaginary "distinctions" that religious bigots create in their heads. Those imaginary "distinctions" aren't recognized by anyone else.
KiMare wrote:
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Anyone with eyes can see something is wrong! Especially the children.
Children are included among those that don't recognize your imaginary "distinctions". But don't let that stop you from using "the children" as your argument. Nothing establishes your desperation more than that tired move!!!

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#199391 Jul 1, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Stop being daft and accept the ruling of the justices. They clearly said that in those states that allowed same-sex marriage, gay and lesbian partners were being treated as "second-class citizens".
Did all the Justices say that? Did they mandate SSM nationwide? If they were that concerned about G & L's being treated as "second class citizens", why not make SSM the law of the land?
Referring to them ass "second-class citizens" was the ONLY difference they made between a union of a man and wife and a union of man/man, woman/woman.
But we both know that's not the only difference.
In marriages where both genders are present, both are referred to as "spouses", just as in a marriage composed of a man and woman.
True, but more often than not, "spouses" is simply another way of referencing husband and wife.
However, you can call both men "husbands" or both women "wives", if that pleases you.
Or "Party A", and "Party B".
You obviously detest this ruling.
I disagree with the ruling, not "detest", significant difference.
You obviously have no respect for same-gender partners who are married.
You deduce this by my disagreement to redefining marriage?
That puts you firmly on the wrong side of this issue and on the wrong side of the way history will see this decision.
History can, and does, turn out in ways participants in a movement never expected. Any number of things could happen. Marriage Redefinition opponents could change the course of the current movement. Polygamists could be a wild card. The state may decide to delegalize marriage. Society may even look back and say this was a bad move. So I guess that all depends on what one considers "the wrong side of history".
You probably didn't wake up this morning with the understanding that future generations will see you and your kind the same way we see past segregationists and racial bigots.
Future generations might also say, "what were we thinking?", "didn't we learn anything from 'no fault' divorce"?
Don't assume future generations will view SSM in a positive light.
Look at what's happening to Paula Deen. 40 years ago she could have said the "N-word" as much as she wanted without suffering any kind of fallout. Today, she admitted to once using the word and her business world is falling apart around her.
If she were black, and rapped the "N word", no one would think twice. Can we apply the "n word" reasoning to other ethnic slurs? "Wop", "Dago", and "Guinea", should be referred to as the "w word", "d word", and "g word" respectively, by that logic.
That's how quickly things can change.
As I've said to Kimare, "Either get on board, or get out of the way."
We unravel our foundational social institutions at our own peril.

Ya know for someone who seems to see "heterosexist" everywhere, u seem to want to heterosexuality homosexuality. Perhaps you're hoping for the reverse.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#199392 Jul 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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You are the only one claiming anything is or is not mandated I simply note natures results. Marriage results in children, SS relationships never do.
Honestly, your stupidity gets worse everyday.

Nature has nothing to do with marriage. Marriage is a man made institution that applies only to humans. It has ZIP, SQUAT, NADA to do with nature.

Marriage doesn't result in children you stupid, stupid person. Procreation results in children. Children are created all the time without marriage. Marriage is an institution, it does not create children.

SS relationships don't have to produce children. They never will.

Now hurry back and try and spin your fundie twirl from a different direction!! Nothing demonstrates further what an idiot you are!!

Smile!
KiMare wrote:
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Oh, and there is nothing you can do about it.
There is absolutely nothing that I need to do about it, since everything you stated was either untrue or irrelevant.

Smirk! Smile!! Chomp on it!!

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#199393 Jul 1, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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Um, that pronouncement was based on currently recognized law.
Ummmmmmm.....I think some modifications had to be made there. "Gee what do we pronounce?.....we can't say husband and wife...how about 'spouses for life', or 'husband and husband', or just plain 'you are married'?
Um, no, no such acknowledgement was made. We filled out the same paperwork as everyone else, and were declared by the state to have a marriage. No distinction was made. The state doesn't concern itself with the pettiness of people like you dear.
No distinction at all? That seems to contradict the pronouncement. Plus was their a space on the form for "bride and groom", or just two names?
I'm called a husband and spouse. So is my husband. Would it help if I got out some crayons and drew some pictures for you Pietro?
That'd be swell Joh-née, perhaps you explain how that how consummation thing works too, that is for two husbands. Do u have to switch off for it to count?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#199394 Jul 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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So if I just don't say it, the reality will change? Do you understand what you are saying???
If it doesn't matter, why do you want me to 'STFU'?
I just want you guys to STFU and leave us alone.

The life that we lead is not, has never been, and will never be ANY of your business.

You attack our orientation. You attack our relationships. You attack our sexual behavior.

And it's NEVER-ENDING!

Don't get me wrong; we're not going to stop pursuing our rights just because you make it difficult and uncomfortable.

But it would be REALLY nice if you guys would just focus on your own, personal lives and mind your own business.

That's what I mean by STFU.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#199395 Jul 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Interesting.
You deny reality, but claim the ability to judge for God.
No dearie, I merely pointed out his words. Proverbs 6:16-19. He detests your behavior. Sorry you don't like that. Take it up with him.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#199396 Jul 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Sad, even scary angry denial.
I seriously think you need help.
Still unable to address specifics. How sad.

Oh, don't forget to smile bitch!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#199397 Jul 1, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Who gives a damn that straight people can make children?
The human race.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#199398 Jul 1, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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There's my point all along; you don't matter.
We know.

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