Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Opponents of gay rights often warn that legalizing same-sex marriage would inexorably lead to legalizing polygamy. Maybe it would, and maybe it should. Denying gay couples the right to marry violates state constitutional guarantees of equality, as the California and Massachusetts high courts have rightly ruled.(The Supreme Court of California also held that the right to marry is fundamental.) Surely Mormons have the same rights to equal treatment under lawóand of course, they have a substantial First Amendment claim to engage in multiple marriages according to the dictates of their faith.

So why is polygamy illegal? Why donít Mormons have the right to enter into multiple marriages sanctified by their church, if not the state? Thereís a short answer to this question but not a very good one: polygamy is illegal and unprotected by the Constitution because the Supreme Court doesnít like it.

http://www.secularhumanism.org/...

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Big D wrote:
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Donít worry if the supreme courts gets it wrong,...
......Big D will fly in to save the day!
Frankie Rizzo

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Marram wrote:
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Oh, donít be too hard on him. Heís just a very lonely old hater seeking attention. Heís been banned many times, but, keeps coming back. Heís so desperate to interact with people it almost makes me feel sorry for him.
You are a hater and I am not. You are against true marriage equality. Which makes you a hypocrite.

What harm would a consensual marriage of three adult men cause you, hater?

Alright then hypocrite, you mull that over and get back to me if you're not too angry to post.
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Too funny! Have no fear! I feel safe now.
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No Capes!( chuckle )
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Pietro Armando wrote:
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This is what the people voted on, not once but twice.
"Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
Very simple.....they voted on the definition of marriage. That's it! No rights, or slavery, or majority/minority......
Why is it so controversial for society to have, recognize, privilege, marriage as a union of husband and wife? Because a minority within a sexual minority want their personal intimate same sex sexual relationship called "marriage"?
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It use to be against the law for people of different races to marry just because most people didn't like it. Do you think that made it right?
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It use to be against the law for people of different races to marry just because most people didn't like it. Do you think that made it right?
Exactly, we are talking to people who do not want change, even positive change, they are stuck in the past and cannot see a brighter future, they pine for old days that they see through rose colored glasses.

But the good old days werenít all that good
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I find it difficult to see the logic of defending monogamous marriage as the historic norm when the laws of many states have already departed from the principle that it is heterosexual, monogamous marriage that is essential to social stability.
Put simply, if heterosexuality is no longer legally, morally or socially relevant to marriage, why should monogamy continue to be so important?
P.S. I am posting about marriage equality which is NOT off topic like magic trees, ribs etc. that Big D harps on and on about. So hold the whining.
But heterosexuality isn't illegal, immoral, and it still is socially relevant to marriage.
It seems to me the biggest fear anti-SSM people have is that SSM is going to some how destory heterosexual marriage. Like any fear those who want to stop SSM use that fear to further thier own agenda, and get the frighten masses to have even more fear. Shame on those people
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But heterosexuality isn't illegal, immoral, and it still is socially relevant to marriage.
It seems to me the biggest fear anti-SSM people have is that SSM is going to some how destory heterosexual marriage. Like any fear those who want to stop SSM use that fear to further thier own agenda, and get the frighten masses to have even more fear. Shame on those people
Yep

I am heterosexual, married, 18,000 same sex couples marrying in California didnít hurt my marriage at all.( shrug )
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Your religious cult has no basis in US law, Same Sex marriage is a reality in the US, over 120,000 legally married same sex couples are in the us today, and 18,000 of them where married in California and legally recognized here.
Science has proven over and over that homosexuality is a common and normal occurrence in mammalian species
so far you got zip
You ass wipe. Your 120K queer folks is a drop in the bucket compared to how many normal people ther are in the U.S. quit trying to justify SSM you moron
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I am heterosexual, married, 18,000 same sex couples marrying in California didnít hurt my marriage at all.( shrug )
You and your cult made it sound thattaking over California was going to be easy, and that by now it would be another fallen state to SSM. You too are an ass wipe like Frizzo the Querzzo
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You and your cult made it sound thattaking over California was going to be easy, and that by now it would be another fallen state to SSM. You too are an ass wipe like Frizzo the Querzzo
And you will be one of the people folks laugh at in the future, like those that tried to stop women from voting.

If you want to know why people are leaving your churches, it is because hate does not sell as well as it used to.
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I am heterosexual, married, 18,000 same sex couples marrying in California didnít hurt my marriage at all.( shrug )
I don't think it has hurt anyone, married or not. I'm not legally married, but I've lived happily with the same woman for 20 years.
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You ass wipe. Your 120K queer folks is a drop in the bucket compared to how many normal people ther are in the U.S. quit trying to justify SSM you moron
Bruno, I see you still the good nature person you've always been.
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But heterosexuality isn't illegal, immoral, and it still is socially relevant to marriage.
It seems to me the biggest fear anti-SSM people have is that SSM is going to some how destory heterosexual marriage. Like any fear those who want to stop SSM use that fear to further thier own agenda, and get the frighten masses to have even more fear. Shame on those people
It seems to me the biggest fear that some pro SSM people have is poly marriage. Not me, I support true marriage equality. Do you?
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You and your cult made it sound thattaking over California was going to be easy, and that by now it would be another fallen state to SSM. You too are an ass wipe like Frizzo the Querzzo
Aw shuddup Bruno you dopey third rate jackass!
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And you will be one of the people folks laugh at in the future, like those that tried to stop women from voting.
If you want to know why people are leaving your churches, it is because hate does not sell as well as it used to.
YUK!YUK!YUK! HAR!HAR!HAR! So funny!

Woops! I forgot to wait until the future.
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But heterosexuality isn't illegal, immoral, and it still is socially relevant to marriage.
I didn't say heterosexuality is illegal or immoral. I said many states have decided it is not legally, morally or socially RELEVANT to marriage.

Perhaps you should read it again more carefully. Ask for help.
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I don't think it has hurt anyone, married or not. I'm not legally married, but I've lived happily with the same woman for 20 years.
well... that sort of is a marriage isnít it.. in this state... common law?

It was a major flaw in their case, they claimed harm to marriage, but they could not bring anyone in who was actually harmed by it.

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