Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#190574 Apr 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Just like heterosexual marriage is no better or worse than homosexual marriage, marriage between two consenting adults is not inherently more or less “correct” than marriage among three consenting adults.
Though polygamists are a minority—a tiny minority, in fact—freedom has no value unless it extends to even the smallest and most marginalized groups among us. So let’s fight for marriage equality until it extends to every same-sex couple in the United States—and then let’s keep fighting. We’re not done yet.
Frances, I'm curious... Are you already involved in a plural relationship? Do you and your wife (I'm assuming you're married) have a bunch of "sister wives"? Maybe your wife wants a stable of husbands of her own. Is that why you push so hard for polygamy?
jojo

United States

#190576 Apr 30, 2013
nonsense

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#190577 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're pissed about the usage of a word. Big deal.
I'm married to my wife of 8 yrs. I don't care if a same sex couple wants to use that same word. Takes nothing away from my marriage. What would you be losing if a same sex couple married? I'll answer that for you - NOTHING. Not a dam thing.
Get over it - it's just semantics.
Howdy, Kimare never lets the English language stand in his way. He believes that he's a wordsmith. He loves to come up with new words. He thinks he's clever. He doesn't realize how lame he comes across here. It's kind of sad.
Howdy

Irving, TX

#190578 Apr 30, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmmmm....ya know Ak.....that last line speaks volumes. I've thought it was odd the way SSMers would ague for the "freedom to marry" by asking the state to regulate their intimate personal relationship. It seems to contradict the desires result.
Then start a movement to dissolve all marriage laws in this nation. Do away with those 1300 priviliges granted to legally married couples. Re-write all marriage laws so that NO one is legally married in this nation, no where.

Why won't that happen? Because too many people CAN get married and DO enjoy those priviliges. And you're probably one of them - you just happen to talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190580 Apr 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
I realize that some of us don't say it often enough, but I can't tell you how much I appreciate your doggedness and keen insight on this issue. If it weren't for straight allies in the community, we wouldn't be where we are today.
I am not looking for thanks... I have not done all that much, I contributed money opposed to prop 8 and talk to folks about it, that is about it. I know other straight folks that have done a lot more than I have.

I just think it is remarkable, that so many Americans have come so far in such a short period of time. In the 80's or 90's this would have been impossible.

But it makes me proud to be an American when I see so many standing up for justice and equality.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190581 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're pissed about the usage of a word. Big deal.
I'm married to my wife of 8 yrs. I don't care if a same sex couple wants to use that same word. Takes nothing away from my marriage. What would you be losing if a same sex couple married? I'll answer that for you - NOTHING. Not a dam thing.
Get over it - it's just semantics.
Not at all, I am not belittling you or you slut in any way at all.

And I promise as I know you are a follower of the golden rule that I will treat your marriage as sacred as you treat the marriage of others, including same sex couples.

I will use the same terms you use when you talk of them, I know that is the way you would want it.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190582 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're pissed about the usage of a word. Big deal.
I'm married to my wife of 8 yrs. I don't care if a same sex couple wants to use that same word. Takes nothing away from my marriage. What would you be losing if a same sex couple married? I'll answer that for you - NOTHING. Not a dam thing.
Get over it - it's just semantics.
How we use words doesn't matter? How old. Are you?

I've got some chocolate pudding I picked up in the yard just for you and VV...

Snicker.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190583 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're pissed about the usage of a word. Big deal.
I'm married to my wife of 8 yrs. I don't care if a same sex couple wants to use that same word. Takes nothing away from my marriage. What would you be losing if a same sex couple married? I'll answer that for you - NOTHING. Not a dam thing.
Get over it - it's just semantics.
Here is another one related to the issue you are trying to twirl by;

Would your child think it matters if it was mom and dad, or two 'dads'?

You are an idiot.

Snicker.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190584 Apr 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
"One of my own..."? Who am I, the Grand Duchess of the LGBT Community?
If the figures are correct, some 21,000,000 straight allies of the gay community support same-sex marriage.
I was referring to gay twirl liars. Yes, you are the Queen of said liars.

The fact remains that an arrogant twisted sister bragged about your deceit.

And you bragged about deceiving 21 million idiots. Must make you proud...
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190585 Apr 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Frances, I'm curious... Are you already involved in a plural relationship? Do you and your wife (I'm assuming you're married) have a bunch of "sister wives"? Maybe your wife wants a stable of husbands of her own. Is that why you push so hard for polygamy?
I am not interested in a polygamous relationship, I simply wish to discuss marriage equality.

Polygamy is marriage too. And as such it belongs in any discussion of marriage equality. Don't you agree?

Big D is not interested in a same sex marriage. But he discusses it, and you allow him to, indeed you encourage him too. Why am I not afforded the same courtesy?
Howdy

Irving, TX

#190586 Apr 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Not at all, I am not belittling you or you slut in any way at all.
And I promise as I know you are a follower of the golden rule that I will treat your marriage as sacred as you treat the marriage of others, including same sex couples.
I will use the same terms you use when you talk of them, I know that is the way you would want it.
I was responding to Kimare, not you.

And I'm a straight guy married to a woman.

Just for clarification.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190587 Apr 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Howdy, Kimare never lets the English language stand in his way. He believes that he's a wordsmith. He loves to come up with new words. He thinks he's clever. He doesn't realize how lame he comes across here. It's kind of sad.
Howdy

Irving, TX

#190588 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is another one related to the issue you are trying to twirl by;
Would your child think it matters if it was mom and dad, or two 'dads'?
You are an idiot.
Snicker.
Snivelling fool, if you're offended by the usage of a common legal term, then I'm sure we can all find some more words to tick you off.

You're the idiot if you think you get to control any one else's life or marriage. You're an even bigger fool if you let same sex marriage change or alter your marriage (that is, if you could find anyone to marry you in the firt place).
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190589 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
I was responding to Kimare, not you.
And I'm a straight guy married to a woman.
Just for clarification.
I probably responded to the wrong post.. multitasking this morning :)

I too am straight and married to a woman, but that does not change my support of same sex marriage as an American I am for freedom, justice and equality.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190590 Apr 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I probably responded to the wrong post.. multitasking this morning :)
I too am straight and married to a woman, but that does not change my support of same sex marriage as an American I am for freedom, justice and equality.
Maybe Frankie distracted you.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190591 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
Snivelling fool, if you're offended by the usage of a common legal term, then I'm sure we can all find some more words to tick you off.
You're the idiot if you think you get to control any one else's life or marriage. You're an even bigger fool if you let same sex marriage change or alter your marriage (that is, if you could find anyone to marry you in the firt place).
Seriously, you are going to hurt your limp wrist gay twirling like that!

First you say word use doesn't matter, now you are trying to limit the word marriage to a legal term. That is either the feminine side that can't make up her mind, or one silly stupid kid playing on the Internet.

It doesn't make a hill of beans difference who applies the word marriage to SS couples, or what affect it does or does not have. A sterile duplicated half is not marriage. Even your child knows the difference between mom and dad and a redumbant gendered couple.

Duh.
LongGoo

Covina, CA

#190592 Apr 30, 2013
This site was declared a toxic waste dump long ago.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190593 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously, you are going to hurt your limp wrist gay twirling like that!
First you say word use doesn't matter, now you are trying to limit the word marriage to a legal term. That is either the feminine side that can't make up her mind, or one silly stupid kid playing on the Internet.
It doesn't make a hill of beans difference who applies the word marriage to SS couples, or what affect it does or does not have. A sterile duplicated half is not marriage. Even your child knows the difference between mom and dad and a redumbant gendered couple.
Duh.
The word IS only a legal term

Every other meaning of it changes from religion to religion, from culture to culture, is and has been fluid across time.

The ONLY important distinction is the legal term.

You and your imaginary playmate can make all the determinations you want that only apply to you and believers in your particular sect, no one else.

The only definition that has any actual meaning is the legal term.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190594 Apr 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not looking for thanks... I have not done all that much, I contributed money opposed to prop 8 and talk to folks about it, that is about it. I know other straight folks that have done a lot more than I have.
I just think it is remarkable, that so many Americans have come so far in such a short period of time. In the 80's or 90's this would have been impossible.
But it makes me proud to be an American when I see so many standing up for justice and equality.
You need to do better than that! Why aren't you out gathering signatures? Why don't you have lawyers working on court cases?
You don't really support SSM. You just admitted you haven't done hardly anything.

See how silly you are when you insist I do those things before I am allowed by Big D to discuss poly marriage?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190595 Apr 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
The word IS only a legal term
Every other meaning of it changes from religion to religion, from culture to culture, is and has been fluid across time.
The ONLY important distinction is the legal term.
You and your imaginary playmate can make all the determinations you want that only apply to you and believers in your particular sect, no one else.
The only definition that has any actual meaning is the legal term.
Higher powers that people believe in are not "playmates".

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