Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,795

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190583 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're pissed about the usage of a word. Big deal.
I'm married to my wife of 8 yrs. I don't care if a same sex couple wants to use that same word. Takes nothing away from my marriage. What would you be losing if a same sex couple married? I'll answer that for you - NOTHING. Not a dam thing.
Get over it - it's just semantics.
Here is another one related to the issue you are trying to twirl by;

Would your child think it matters if it was mom and dad, or two 'dads'?

You are an idiot.

Snicker.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190584 Apr 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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"One of my own..."? Who am I, the Grand Duchess of the LGBT Community?
If the figures are correct, some 21,000,000 straight allies of the gay community support same-sex marriage.
I was referring to gay twirl liars. Yes, you are the Queen of said liars.

The fact remains that an arrogant twisted sister bragged about your deceit.

And you bragged about deceiving 21 million idiots. Must make you proud...
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190585 Apr 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Frances, I'm curious... Are you already involved in a plural relationship? Do you and your wife (I'm assuming you're married) have a bunch of "sister wives"? Maybe your wife wants a stable of husbands of her own. Is that why you push so hard for polygamy?
I am not interested in a polygamous relationship, I simply wish to discuss marriage equality.

Polygamy is marriage too. And as such it belongs in any discussion of marriage equality. Don't you agree?

Big D is not interested in a same sex marriage. But he discusses it, and you allow him to, indeed you encourage him too. Why am I not afforded the same courtesy?
Howdy

Irving, TX

#190586 Apr 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Not at all, I am not belittling you or you slut in any way at all.
And I promise as I know you are a follower of the golden rule that I will treat your marriage as sacred as you treat the marriage of others, including same sex couples.
I will use the same terms you use when you talk of them, I know that is the way you would want it.
I was responding to Kimare, not you.

And I'm a straight guy married to a woman.

Just for clarification.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190587 Apr 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Howdy, Kimare never lets the English language stand in his way. He believes that he's a wordsmith. He loves to come up with new words. He thinks he's clever. He doesn't realize how lame he comes across here. It's kind of sad.
Howdy

Irving, TX

#190588 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is another one related to the issue you are trying to twirl by;
Would your child think it matters if it was mom and dad, or two 'dads'?
You are an idiot.
Snicker.
Snivelling fool, if you're offended by the usage of a common legal term, then I'm sure we can all find some more words to tick you off.

You're the idiot if you think you get to control any one else's life or marriage. You're an even bigger fool if you let same sex marriage change or alter your marriage (that is, if you could find anyone to marry you in the firt place).
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190589 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
I was responding to Kimare, not you.
And I'm a straight guy married to a woman.
Just for clarification.
I probably responded to the wrong post.. multitasking this morning :)

I too am straight and married to a woman, but that does not change my support of same sex marriage as an American I am for freedom, justice and equality.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190590 Apr 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I probably responded to the wrong post.. multitasking this morning :)
I too am straight and married to a woman, but that does not change my support of same sex marriage as an American I am for freedom, justice and equality.
Maybe Frankie distracted you.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190591 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
Snivelling fool, if you're offended by the usage of a common legal term, then I'm sure we can all find some more words to tick you off.
You're the idiot if you think you get to control any one else's life or marriage. You're an even bigger fool if you let same sex marriage change or alter your marriage (that is, if you could find anyone to marry you in the firt place).
Seriously, you are going to hurt your limp wrist gay twirling like that!

First you say word use doesn't matter, now you are trying to limit the word marriage to a legal term. That is either the feminine side that can't make up her mind, or one silly stupid kid playing on the Internet.

It doesn't make a hill of beans difference who applies the word marriage to SS couples, or what affect it does or does not have. A sterile duplicated half is not marriage. Even your child knows the difference between mom and dad and a redumbant gendered couple.

Duh.
LongGoo

Covina, CA

#190592 Apr 30, 2013
This site was declared a toxic waste dump long ago.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190593 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously, you are going to hurt your limp wrist gay twirling like that!
First you say word use doesn't matter, now you are trying to limit the word marriage to a legal term. That is either the feminine side that can't make up her mind, or one silly stupid kid playing on the Internet.
It doesn't make a hill of beans difference who applies the word marriage to SS couples, or what affect it does or does not have. A sterile duplicated half is not marriage. Even your child knows the difference between mom and dad and a redumbant gendered couple.
Duh.
The word IS only a legal term

Every other meaning of it changes from religion to religion, from culture to culture, is and has been fluid across time.

The ONLY important distinction is the legal term.

You and your imaginary playmate can make all the determinations you want that only apply to you and believers in your particular sect, no one else.

The only definition that has any actual meaning is the legal term.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190594 Apr 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not looking for thanks... I have not done all that much, I contributed money opposed to prop 8 and talk to folks about it, that is about it. I know other straight folks that have done a lot more than I have.
I just think it is remarkable, that so many Americans have come so far in such a short period of time. In the 80's or 90's this would have been impossible.
But it makes me proud to be an American when I see so many standing up for justice and equality.
You need to do better than that! Why aren't you out gathering signatures? Why don't you have lawyers working on court cases?
You don't really support SSM. You just admitted you haven't done hardly anything.

See how silly you are when you insist I do those things before I am allowed by Big D to discuss poly marriage?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190595 Apr 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
The word IS only a legal term
Every other meaning of it changes from religion to religion, from culture to culture, is and has been fluid across time.
The ONLY important distinction is the legal term.
You and your imaginary playmate can make all the determinations you want that only apply to you and believers in your particular sect, no one else.
The only definition that has any actual meaning is the legal term.
Higher powers that people believe in are not "playmates".
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190596 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
Snivelling fool, if you're offended by the usage of a common legal term, then I'm sure we can all find some more words to tick you off.
You're the idiot if you think you get to control any one else's life or marriage. You're an even bigger fool if you let same sex marriage change or alter your marriage (that is, if you could find anyone to marry you in the firt place).
A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

William Shakespeare
Howdy

Irving, TX

#190597 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously, you are going to hurt your limp wrist gay twirling like that!
First you say word use doesn't matter, now you are trying to limit the word marriage to a legal term. That is either the feminine side that can't make up her mind, or one silly stupid kid playing on the Internet.
It doesn't make a hill of beans difference who applies the word marriage to SS couples, or what affect it does or does not have. A sterile duplicated half is not marriage. Even your child knows the difference between mom and dad and a redumbant gendered couple.
Duh.
The term "marriage" has legal implications. Those implications and intricasies have nothing to do with the religious side of things. If you want to focus on the religious impact - fine. But the issues of same sex marriage deal with the legal aspect. And as such, that's how I'm framing my discussion and understanding, you snivelling fool.

If your view of same sex marriage is what it is, then, that's where it remains then. In your own little noggin. Not in legal terms. Your opinion is your own, but be aware that no one else MUST embrace your opinion as fact. The only facts that are relevant are the legalities as they affect all of us. Well, at least those that are barred from being legally married.

Got that yet? Your opinion doesn't play into the legalities. It's your own ego that puffs you up enough to think you matter. And the fact of the matter is that you do not matter one iota. The laws do.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190598 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
The term "marriage" has legal implications. Those implications and intricasies have nothing to do with the religious side of things. If you want to focus on the religious impact - fine. But the issues of same sex marriage deal with the legal aspect. And as such, that's how I'm framing my discussion and understanding, you snivelling fool.
If your view of same sex marriage is what it is, then, that's where it remains then. In your own little noggin. Not in legal terms. Your opinion is your own, but be aware that no one else MUST embrace your opinion as fact. The only facts that are relevant are the legalities as they affect all of us. Well, at least those that are barred from being legally married.
Got that yet? Your opinion doesn't play into the legalities. It's your own ego that puffs you up enough to think you matter. And the fact of the matter is that you do not matter one iota. The laws do.
Exactly right!

Great post
Mike the Pike

Glenn, CA

#190599 Apr 30, 2013
Marriage is simply the union of a man and a woman, this is a fact! No allowance has been made for any other combination. Now if you want to have a social contract or legalized relationship rights of some sort via the courts and have the government accept it from the standpoint of taxes, benefits, etc. That would be quite a different thing and would likely be supported by a large number of the population.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190600 Apr 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly right!
Great post
Thank you!

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#190601 Apr 30, 2013
Howdy wrote:
<quoted text>
The term "marriage" has legal implications. Those implications and intricasies have nothing to do with the religious side of things. If you want to focus on the religious impact - fine. But the issues of same sex marriage deal with the legal aloospect. And as such, that's how I'm framing my discussion and understanding, you snivelling fool.
If your view of same sex marriage is what it is, then, that's where it remains then. In your own little noggin. Not in legal terms. Your opinion is your own, but be aware that no one else MUST embrace your opinion as fact. The only facts that are relevant are the legalities as they affect all of us. Well, at least those that are barred from being legally married.
Got that yet? Your opinion doesn't play into the legalities. It's your own ego that puffs you up enough to think you matter. And the fact of the matter is that you do not matter one iota. The laws do.
Kuntmary has a long history of being unable to distinguish between opinion and fact. Zhe thinks zher opinions are facts.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#190603 Apr 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm aware there are a number of fake, imposter, sterile, duplicate half of marriage pretendies, but no such thing as a 'ss marriage'.
Smile.
There's no such thing as a sane chimera.

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