Suicides Highlight Failures In Vetera...

Suicides Highlight Failures In Veterans' Support System

There are 5 comments on the www.baycitizen.org story from Mar 24, 2012, titled Suicides Highlight Failures In Veterans' Support System. In it, www.baycitizen.org reports that:

Francis Guilfoyle, 55, a homeless veteran, hung himself from a tree on the grounds of the Palo Alto VA, after allegedly being denied care.

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NamVet68

Choctaw, OK

#1 Mar 24, 2012
I say we will see more Veterans take his or her own live in the coming years cause of the Veterans can't cope with his problems health wise and his family will try but will leave him to his ways and self and then he will in time be killed or take his own life!
We can not make a veteran take his meds! We can't make him go to the VA to see a head Dr.
Most said they are not sick and nothing wrong with them but trying to fit back into the real world!
Many vets say there are not suffering from PTSD but family and friends say different!
Many a Veteran has come home to leave his old ways to live with other vets and homeless vets on the streets!
There is NO real answers to PTSD and to tell a NEW Veteran he needs to go check into the nut house wont work and for the few who do leave cause of the meds and time spent talking to Dr's they do not know or wont to know!
I see it daily and it's sad with men 19 and 20 with problems they do not understand and let the mocho over take there real problems!

Kip

“Brian's alter ego”

Since: Feb 07

San Francisco, CA

#2 Apr 2, 2012
This is a tragedy.
It's a crime and an injustice.

On one hand there's all of this, "Support our Troops!" and flag waving. Yet, when it comes time to HELP THEM when they return home, Americans have little to no concept of what the hell to do. It's disgusting. To add insult to injury some Veteran facilities lack the funds to help these people once they return. It's an injustice, because it was SO short sighted from the beginning when we marched into these ridiculous conflicts.

When will we ever learn?
The Mad Man

Long Beach, CA

#3 Apr 3, 2012
Kip wrote:
This is a tragedy.
It's a crime and an injustice.
On one hand there's all of this, "Support our Troops!" and flag waving. Yet, when it comes time to HELP THEM when they return home, Americans have little to no concept of what the hell to do. It's disgusting. To add insult to injury some Veteran facilities lack the funds to help these people once they return. It's an injustice, because it was SO short sighted from the beginning when we marched into these ridiculous conflicts.
When will we ever learn?
Point well taken. If a vet is disabled, try Medicare/Medicaid. I know the outside doctors I have seen have helped but I went through A LOT OF SECOND OPINIONS before I got a doctor knowledgeable enough to care. Found a specialist in his field who did the surgery the VA could not. After 5 surgeries, I am doing better. Still need the pain management program to help keep me out of pain when it does kick up but the two doctors have been instrumental in helping with my pain management. I have been to a lot of doctors who do not want to take any chances including the VA.
Doesn't matter what these men and women did while they were in the service, it was part of their jobs as these soldiers volunteered. They need medical attention and if one VA will not help, go nation wide if you have to. Each doctor has their own medical treatment 'opinion' but if you can't get a VA doctor to agree, try outside the VA system and do your research! My issues only showed up later on with a MRI/CAT scan and did not appear to be life threatening but the bone was pressing on the nerve causing my pain and that is what needed to be treated. An Osteo surgeon helped me after many an opinion. I had metal put into my back, only to have it removed 5 years later. Stay on top of your doctors, sooner or later, they will listen if they care enough about the patient!

Since: Dec 09

Choctaw, OK

#4 Apr 3, 2012
Kip wrote:
This is a tragedy.
It's a crime and an injustice.
On one hand there's all of this, "Support our Troops!" and flag waving. Yet, when it comes time to HELP THEM when they return home, Americans have little to no concept of what the hell to do. It's disgusting. To add insult to injury some Veteran facilities lack the funds to help these people once they return. It's an injustice, because it was SO short sighted from the beginning when we marched into these ridiculous conflicts.
When will we ever learn?
It's Vietnam ALl over again cause we END a war & send the troops home - thousands get out of the services = NO Jobs - Slow VA help as they are over loaded in ALL health care NOW and soon thousands more come home to NO Jobs - and lack of health care with a over loaded VA health system! Same as it was in 1975 - When you end a war you need to have the support system back home ready to kick in!
When you END a war you end jobs - YES thousands are laid off cause of the NO longer need to make and keep up with amo to hummers to tanks to parts for war the war!

Gas is up - food is up - prices for what ever you NEED today is up 45% of what is was when the war started and then YOU get out of the Army and come home to what? prices out of sight and going up and to find or get your job back is a joke and some come back to NO wife - NO support - no place to call home and the chances to make a living is slim to none!

Now why are the troops on the streets of USA lol = sad NO support in place to cover the mass service members for jobs or health or home support. Mostly all take and NO true help!
lolol

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Apr 3, 2012
USA VET wrote:
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Now why are the troops on the streets of USA lol = sad NO support in place to cover the mass service members for jobs or health or home support. Mostly all take and NO true help!
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BS, the govt has veteran hiring preference, most corporations have a veteran preference hiring policy. A veteran has to go through the red tape, but healthcare is their. Yes there is a line, yes the wait can be frustrating, but it is there and in the case of a homeless vet with no income FREE!. Even feeling suicidal and walking into any ER or calling 911 gets help, but you have to do it. What is home support ? Is that some new gov mandated thing ? Most vets get out with a sense of enpowerement with their training and schooling in the service making them at head of the line for jobs, but the vet has to have the gumption to look and not give up. They don't have to be handheld. The headline 'denied care' is contrary to anything I have seen with the VA in 45 years, but they won't come to you and ask you 'what's the matter', you have to go to them.

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